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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:52 AM
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July 4th - Cheney will resign
Cheney will resign on July 4th pending health reasons, and Bush will appoint Condi as VP. This will give the congress the summer to vote, so it avoids the fall scrutiny.

Bush will pardon Cheney and Libby on his last day in office for crimes against humanity.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:53 AM
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1. Is this just a prediction?
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:21 PM
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11. not a prediction
I think the chances of this happening will be 60-70%
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:55 AM
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2. I don't doubt the pardon one bit . . .
. . . but you underestimate the Dick of Death, I think.

I believe they'll have to carry him out. He'll not go willingly.

He's totally crazy. And he has the look of a man that has some more killing to do.

Having said that, I hope you're right. ;)
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:58 AM
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3. I think it's too late as well
I mean there's no point at this point to pretending that making Condi the Veep would give her a leg up in the 2008 race (a race she hasn't entered at this point). So what's the value in it?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:03 PM
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5. no condi
Condi will be a symbolic VP - she won't run for prez.

i just saw a banner ad for mccain here - WTF? Apparently he thinks Dems will vote for him in the republican primary.

or we should donate money to him - because he will lose to the Dem Nom?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:59 AM
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4. Don't hold your breath waiting on the pigs to fly by!
Cheney will hold onto power every last minute. No way in hell will Darth Cheney knowingly let go of the reigns via resignation. Now if he fell into a coma, yeah, but otherwise, NO WAY! ;)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:05 PM
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6. Bush couldn't pardon Darth for crimes against humanity. That's international law.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:06 PM
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7. The summer to vote?
They'll be off the first week of July and then in recess all of August. It'd probably be a recess appointment if it happened then, or it would be taken care of in July.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:10 PM
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8. summer tv
Bush would want minimum tv exposure on Condi's hearings. Fall TV would be the worse time. Summer would be perfect.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:20 PM
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10. Yeah, but it would be HUGE news
I don't think it would be avoided.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:24 PM
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14. Black VP
only in the sense that Condi will be the first Black VP - this will headline the MSM above the cheney is a crook angle.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:20 PM
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9. Looking through this thread, because it kind of parallels what...
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 12:21 PM by rasputin1952
I've been saying for a while: If Cheney leaves, bush will be "Nixoned", via the will of the powers behind the curtain.

As for the pardons, I don't think bush will pardon Libby, at least not until the end of his reign; and Cheney would have to be charged w/a crime as a minimum, and tried/convicted/sentenced as a maximum.

Until these jerks moved in, the sole jobs of the VP: were to be president of the Senate, as a tie-breaker vote if the vote was 50/50; and to step up to the presidency if the president can no longer complete his/her duties due to resignation/removed under conviction of the Senate/health/or death.

Cheney is the first VP to be given anywhere near the power any previous VP, in fact, I was wondering if what he claims as "power" is Constitutional at all.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:23 PM
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13. Bush and Condi
Bush and Condi will be lame-ducks with congress doing nothing for them. He doesn't need Cheney anymore because there is nothing they can get done.

Ford pardoned Nixon before charges were brought, the same will happen here.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:34 PM
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15. You are correct...my bad
:D

Don't listen to old guys that post before they think...
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:23 PM
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12. since Cheney feasts on the flesh of iraqi orphans
i'm pretty sure he's already undead, therefore health is not an issue.

like cockroaches, he'll outlast us all. resignation is admitting guilt - and they cannot do this or the edifice crumbles.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:49 PM
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16. I don't doubt he might resign, but I bet it won't be on 7/4
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:53 PM
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17. I do not see Condi passing confirmation before Congress....
Other than being ideologue, she has nothing going for her --especially before a Democratic Congress.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:55 PM
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18. Isn't the VP position an elected position? Can it be "appointed"???
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:57 PM
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20. Please Google "Gerald Ford." n/t
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:02 PM
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21. 25th amendment says the pres nominates someone but both houses have to approve. We would be vp-less
for the rest of his administration if he tried to nominate Rice. What a mess... cheney won't resign anyways.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:07 PM
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22. I think we could find a consensus candidate.
One way or another, Bush has gotten people appointed to every major position in the government. Personally, I think the Democrats would allow Condi; they don't seem to mind rolling over on appointments.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:46 PM
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24. obstructionist
it won't matter to the congress cuz condi is not a threat in 2008. it will be a ceremonial hearings - it would be great to have a woman vp, imo, even if it is condi.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:44 PM
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23. how old are you
read up on nixon and ford.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:56 PM
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19. When you make bullshit predictions, please say that they're bullshit predictions.
Also, Bush cannot pardon Cheney and Libby for "crimes against humanity," because in order to be pardoned, you must first be convicted. Libby has committed perjury and obstruction of justice, not crimes against humanity. Finally, crimes against humanity are under the jurisdiction of the ICC, which the US is not a member of. Cheney cannot be convicted of crimes against humanity.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:50 PM
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25. citizens
okay, i meant crimes against us citizens - i wasn't being specific.

July 4th = Independence Day, yay!
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