MSNBC: Dave Dreier extolling the Family Values of Rudy!

[Norquist Nemesis]

Now there's a impeachable source if I ever saw one!

[redqueen]

1. What the hell does the term 'family values' mean to them?

:crazy:

[lancdem]

3. Adultery and/or multiple marriages

are only a concern when they involve Democrats. Somehow, if Obama or Edwards had been married three times and publicly humiliated wife No. 2 while sleeping with wife No. 3, I doubt they'd be so forgiving.

[tblue]

4. In the Republic party, you just have to say it, you don't have to do it.

[Norquist Nemesis]

7. It means "I have a bridge in San Francisco for you to buy"

and the faithful start ponying up for bids.

[radfringe]

11. it's been the point I've been trying to make for years

the republics need to be called out on this and made to DEFINE those values

what are they?

[Eurobabe]

2. Unbelievable! what was more unbelievable

was that N-whora O'Donnell was interrupting him, regarding a poll that said CONS DO have a problem with Rudy's past and positions.

Dreier has blinders on, just like the rest of the GOP.

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. Ah, listen carefully. Dreier doesn't have blinders on

He's rolling out the strategy for Rudy. "I see him as looking like Ronald Reagan. Family problems? Ronald Reagan had family problems! Rudy encouraged adoption!"

While Nora said some (suprising) counters, all you have to do is listen to what Dreier says: National Security, Ronald Reagan, Real Conservative. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Dreier had a significan hand in writing the marketing plan for Rudy.

[lancdem]

9. Good point

[Eurobabe]

12. That was evident from the first time Dreier invoked RR

:puke:

[Kelly Rupert]

6. Yeah, he's got "Family" Values out the ass.

(I hope I don't offend any Sicilian DUers. You don't want to make them angry.)

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. lol...you really like to put your toe on the line

but you have a point about where his values are coming from.

[David Zephyr]

10. Dreier in protected by his hometown paper, the Inland Daily Bulletin.

The publisher and the editor know he's a hypocrital homosexual and cover up for him and his husband/staff manager.

There are stories of David Dreier frequenting gay bath houses in Cathedral City in the 1980's while he was in Congress. Rumors have it that there are photographs, too.

George Bush and Dick Cheney also know that Drier is homosexual as does Governor Arnold.

[RC Quake]

14. EVERYBODY hates Dreier in the Inland Valley.

Seriously, he is hated across the board, and the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin doesn't do him any favors either. He's a jackass!

[David Zephyr]

16. The IDB has known about his homosexuality for decades.

They were pushed back in the 1980's and 1990's on the subject and refused to even address it. When the LA Weekly ran story after story about his homosexuality and how he voted time and again against anything even remotely sympathetic to gay and lesbian Americans, the Bulletin still would not touch the story.

When L.A. local talk radio stations carried the story, sometimes night after night, it was brought to the publisher and the editor of the Bulletin still again, and they stonewalled it.

Lewis Homes, Gary Miller and David Dreier all have interests, financial and otherwise, that are intertwined so intensely that they all have to cover for each other.

How much the parent company of the Bulletin is involved or knows is another subject. But the truth is that the company that sits in Ontario near the Airport will never, ever let the issue of Dreier's homosexuality be covered...even though the paper printed some of the most hateful slurs against gays during the 1980's and 1990's.

I've always wondered why a gay and lesbian organization did not simply picket in front of their offices with signs featuring Dreier and his live-in mate and then call the LA Times to cover that story. It would force the issue.

The issue is this: it is a felony for a spouse to be the Chief of Staff of a Congressional Representative. If David was "married" legally to his companion of decades, then he would be breaking the law because his companion is also his chief of staff. David gets it both ways.

Dreier knows that the clock is ticking and that there is more lurking to come out about him. He should take his millions in his campaign treasury and get out before the hot spot light comes down on him...as it will.

[RC Quake]

17. Are you a John & Ken listener?

They spent about a year pounding on Dreier prior to the previous election cycle. All of this that you have just outlined was fodder for their battle to get him out of office. Personally, I hate the IVDB just as much, or more, than Dreier, but there is no other local newspaper. That said, I'm a little confused as to whether you believe that all of this is not commonly known among his constituents...or if it is just that they are untouchable with their links to the godfathers of the IV.

[David Zephyr]

18. I don't listen to them, but I did tune in during that period about Dreier.

RC Quake. Hmmm. Sounds like a baseball fan to me from someone in a town that Jack Benny made famous.

I'm a neighbor.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. There it is - there it is - there it is - They're putting it at issue

The Republicans are the ones making it relevant. If Rudy tries to use that angle to get votes and get elected, then his entire life is fair game and I don't want to hear complaints about how unfair it is to talk about his past. I agree with those people, by the way, except where a candidate tries to throw his positive family values image in the face of the public without wanting to discuss the negative aspects.

[Poiuyt]

15. Rudi's family is so important to him that he married his cousin

Keep the family together, you know!