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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:45 PM
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newamericancentury.org is gone **poof**
The site is down, web page reports the account has been suspended.

From wikipedia, As of July 8, 2008, The Project for the New American Century website is inoperable. A message saying that the account has been suspended and to contact the billing department was put on the site's page.

Small refresher for those not so familiar, this was the PNAC neo-con think tank from which it's members held power or influence during the Bush administration, namely:

Elliott Abrams, Richard Armitage, John R. Bolton, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Seth Cropsey, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Richard Perle, Peter W. Rodman, Donald Rumsfeld, Randy Scheunemann, Paul Wolfowitz, Dov S. Zakheim, Robert B. Zoellick

One of the core missions outlined in the 2000 report Rebuilding America's Defenses is "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars."

The report also states:

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor"

Appears though others have archived the site for posterity in anticipation of this happening.

But GOOD RIDDANCE!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:46 PM
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1. Beware, they will probably pop up different place, different name
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:33 PM
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14. They already have...
...as either Coalition for a Democratic Workplace or Center For A New American Security.

But, who knows, I'm speculating.


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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:35 AM
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17. yea, they are probably revising it
and going to put it under a different name.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:46 PM
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2. they've just moved...here's the new addie..
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 05:46 PM by FarceOfNature
welcome to their new home!

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:48 PM
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3. Ugh
What are they up to now?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:54 PM
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5. Well their plan hasn't been fully realized yet. Yeah they got their "catalyzing event"
and a couple of their desired disaster capitalism programs checked off their list... but there's more countries to be pillaged for profit... so... they won't stop.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:06 PM
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9. As is Iran:
Printed in full 'cause FUCK 'EM!

Iran Wielding 'Soft Power' Against America

By Lee Smith

Pajamas Media
July 4, 2008
Web site: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/iran-wielding-soft-power-against-america/


“If each Muslim throws a bucket of water on Israel,” said the late Ayatollah Khomeini, “Israel will be erased.” This immortal sentiment, and surreal image, captures the essence of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s public diplomacy campaign these last four years, one of the most effective uses of “soft power” in recent memory.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s threats to destroy Israel have so captured the hearts and minds of the Arab masses that they are too distracted to understand that the Persians are primarily coming after them. And the princes and presidents-for-life who rule the Arabs dare not speak the truth since they have promised for sixty years now to rectify the historical error that led to the establishment of the Zionist entity. With the reflexive Arab humiliation at the failure to annihilate a UN member state, the Khomeinists offer at least hope: if you can’t throw Israel into the sea, then take the sea to Israel — and bring your bucket.

So, while Ahmadinejad — the regime’s dark sorcerer, carny barker, and bearded lady rolled into one — has talked of making Israel disappear, he has effectively dropped his cloak over the rest of the Middle East to hide it from view. Even Washington doesn’t seem to have noticed that Iran has pulled a three-card monte trick with a vital American interest — the Persian Gulf.

To be sure, Ahmadinejad is a messianic obscurantist whose vicious threats should not be taken lightly. But Israel is not the main issue here, nor for that matter is the regime’s nascent nuclear program. For these are merely aspects, albeit important ones, of Iran’s project for the entire Middle East, a revolutionary putsch against the established order. And since Washington for over half a century has underwritten that order, from the eastern Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf, which Martin Kramer has called an “<1> American lake,” the Iranian project by definition means to drive the U.S. from the region. And that’s the main event: not Israel, which has a nuclear deterrent, but the Gulf Arabs, who don’t, and their oil, a vital American interest.

Just as it would be ignoble for the world’s superpower to <2> assign an attack on Iran’s nuclear program to the Israelis, neither should Washington leave it up to Israel to counter Ahmadinejad’s rhetorical onslaught. It is the prerogative of a superpower to formulate strategy, tasks that Washington has so far botched. Consider Annapolis, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s redundant effort to convince the Arabs and Israelis of the obvious — that they have a common foe in Iran — and then reward Arab inaction by demanding concessions from Israel on the peace process.

Not surprisingly, the Israelis are confused and frustrated and the Arabs are hardly more impressed. Indeed Arab regime confidence in Washington’s ability to stop the Iranians seems to be at an all-time low. Four years ago U.S. ally King Abdullah of Jordan was stirring up the sectarian hornet’s nest by warning of a Shia crescent; today Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah is hosting unprecedentedly Shia-friendly interfaith conferences in order to pave the way for an accommodation between the Sunnis and those who are awaiting the return of the twelfth imam, a comity that does not need Washington as a guarantor.

And there is no American clarity on the horizon either, for so far neither U.S. presidential candidate has indicated that he will be any more effective than the Bush administration.

Senator Obama says that he’s the man who would speak with the Iranians — apparently ignorant of the fact that every man who has sat in the Oval Office since the 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran has tried to engage the IRI. While this puerile boast richly merits the derision of his opponents, the fact is that Senator McCain has not shown that his Iran policy consists of much more than proving that he is a steadfast friend of Israel. Is it possible that the two men running for this country’s highest office do not know what is at stake?

Perhaps, but it seems likely that policymakers won’t talk about Gulf energy resources because it is one place where the Republicans are as vulnerable as the Democrats are to the inanities of the left. What can the slogan “no blood for oil” possibly mean in the real world? That we won’t lift a finger to ensure that foodstuffs and other essential items are moved in a timely and inexpensive manner from one part of this large country to another? That we’ll just roll over and play dead if our geographic and therefore our social mobility is circumscribed by fuel prices set by Iran? That we won’t fight at all since the fact that all of American life, society, culture, and commerce is organized around the free flow of the affordable energy resources that also sustain global markets is of absolutely no consequence to those of pure conscience?

The question then is not what the next president of the United States intends to do about Iran, but which candidate will treat the American electorate like adults and speak plainly, maybe something like this:

“We have been at war for over five years now with one goal of our fight being to bring freedom to other nations and peoples around the world. But now it is time to speak of our freedoms and our way of life, and how we intend to preserve them.

“I would not be running for this office if I did not have full faith and confidence not only in the strength and resilience of the American people but also in our native genius and creative energy, a living tradition that you and I must stand in awe of as it reaches from Bill Gates back to Benjamin Franklin and thus ties us to our roots in our forefathers, the founders of our great nation. This is our vivid legacy and thus I have no doubt that in due course we will develop a reliable and affordable substitute for fossil fuels. Who knows but that inventors are not already on the verge of a breakthrough? But perhaps we are not so close; maybe the talent who will usher in a new age of cheap and clean energy has just gone off to summer camp with her friends — in a school bus consuming diesel fuel at more than $5 a gallon. That is to say, there are yet harder times ahead for all of us, and surely some will only find warm consolation in the prospect of our children reaping the great benefits of their parents’ courageous sacrifice in relinquishing our position in the Persian Gulf.

“That, my fellow Americans, is one option before us. The other is to do whatever it takes to secure and sustain the privilege won and bargained for by President Franklin D. Roosevelt some sixty years ago and asserted and exercised by every American government since that time — our position in the Persian Gulf. This hard choice will almost certainly mean some form of military action against the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

Losing the Persian Gulf to a fanatical, terror-supporting regime that threatens all its neighbors, Israeli and Arab alike, would do untold damage to the U.S. economy and world markets; and by paving the way for nuclear proliferation in an extremely volatile part of the world where states typically use terrorist organizations to advance their strategic goals, our exit would entail a major threat to U.S. national security. The costs of relinquishing our position in the Gulf would be virtually indistinguishable from losing a world war.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:34 AM
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16. Yup... what were the countries? Iraq, Syria, Iran...?
I'm sure there were more...
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:51 PM
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4. Yup, check out the biographies:
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 05:56 PM by Texas Explorer
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:19 PM
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11. Yep, interesting names on that list...
Biographies
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

Board of Directors


Steve Forbes
Board Member
CEO Forbes Magazine

Dr. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Founding Member, 2001-2006
Fmr. Ambassador to the UN


Jack Kemp
Chairman Emeritus
Fmr. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development


Distinguished Advisors


Judge Louis J. Freeh
Fmr. Director of the FBI

Sen. Joseph Lieberman
(D-CT)
U.S. Senate


Newt Gingrich
Fmr. Speaker of the House

Robert "Bud" McFarlane
Fmr. National Security Advisor


Max M. Kampelman
Fmr. Ambassador

R. James Woolsey
Fmr. Director of the CIA


Board of Advisors


Gary Bauer
President
American Values

Bill Kristol
Editor
Weekly Standard


Rep. Eric Cantor
Chairman (R-VA)
Task Force on Terrorism

Hon. Richard D. Lamm
Fmr. Governor
Colorado


Frank Gaffney
President
Center for Security Policy

Sen. Zell Miller
(D-GA)
Former U.S. Senator


Gene Gately
Former Intelligence and Defense Official

Richard Perle
Former Chair of the Defense Policy Board and FDD Advisor


Charles Jacobs
President
American Anti-Slavery Group

Steven Pomerantz
Former Assistant Director
FBI


General P.X. Kelley
USMC (RET)

Oliver "Buck" Revell
Former Associate Deputy Director
FBI


Charles Krauthammer
Syndicated Columnist

Frances Townsend
Fmr. Chair of the White House Homeland Security Council



Senior Fellows


Khairi Abaza
Senior Fellow
Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Dr. J. Peter Pham
Senior Fellow: Africa


Avi Jorisch
Terrorism Expert

Dr. Walid Phares
Director, FDD's Future of Terrorism Project


Burak Kuntay
Visiting Fellow

Victoria Toensing
Fmr. Chief Counsel to Sen. Intelligence Committee


Andrew C. McCarthy
Director, FDD's Center for Law and Counterterrorism

Dr. Robert Zubrin
Fellow: Energy and Security



Adjunct Fellows


Dr. Jonathan Adelman
Professor
University of Denver

Orde Kittrie
Law Professor
Arizona State University


Bill Ardolino
Adjunct Fellow
Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Michael I. Krauss
Professor of Law
George Mason University School of Law


Richard Z. Chesnoff
Journalist

Agota Kuperman
U.S. Foreign Service (ret.)


Paul Crespo
Former Marine Corps Officer and Military Attaché

Joel Mowbray
Journalist


Tanya Gilly
Member of the Iraqi National Assembly

Bill Roggio
Editor
The Long War Journal


Olivier Guitta
Counterterrorism and Foreign Affairs consultant

Dr. Frederic Smoler
Professor
Sarah Lawrence College


Ethan Gutmann
Adjunct Fellow
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Staff


Tony Badran
Research Fellow, Levant
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Clifford D. May
President
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Amb. Richard W. Carlson
Vice Chairman
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Bill McCarthy
Senior Vice-President of Communications and Operations
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Mark Dubowitz
Executive Director
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Mary Beth Nalin
Communications Coordinator
Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Sasha Eckstein
Special Assistant
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Jessica Risch
Research Associate
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Omar Fadhil
Summer Associate
Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Cara Rosenthal
Senior Manager, Development
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
Vice President of Research
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Claudia Rosett
Journalist-in-Residence
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Joshua D. Goodman
Director of Research
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Jonathan L. Snow
Research Fellow
Coalition Against Terrorist Media


Laura Grossman
Research Associate
Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Jean Thurman
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies


Brandi Kolmer
Manager, Operations
Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Shlok Vaidya
Research Associate
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:42 AM
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18. ha ha!! we are on to them.
sounds pretty accurate to me. they are just changing the title but the names are there.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:54 PM
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10. Yep
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

And like before, they are using their real names even.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:28 PM
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13. defenddemocracy.org? How positively Orwellian. nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:54 PM
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6. They have achieved the goals set out in the plan. It was, exactly, a plan.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:58 PM
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7. Not quite
there are still Americans who can afford a bandaid. The PNAC creeps will just keep morphing into other identities until every last drop of hope has been sucked from America and we are reduced to massive civil wars over the last crumbs left at the table.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:59 PM
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8. I got no answer to that......
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:55 PM
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15. They morphed right next door into the AEI...
Interesting geographical linkage between the American Enterprise Institute and PNAC: They were both located in the same building: According to SourceWatch, the AEI's located at:

American Enterprise Institute
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: 202-862-5800
Fax: 202-862-7177
E-mail: info AT aei.org
Website: http://www.aei.org

PNAC was/is?? at:

Project for the New American Century
1150 17th St. NW, Suite 510
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 293-4983
Fax: (202) 293-4572
http://www.newamericancentury.org/


Another of the astonishing coincidences that seem to accompany every move rich wingnuts make as they go about the serious business of plotting global destruction.

Just in case you've missed it in all its jingoistic glory, here's an archived version of the PNAC site as it was just about to disappear.


wp
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:01 AM
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19. this defend democracy organization
has just a PO Box number.


trying to hide their location perhaps.
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:26 PM
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12. The plan was called "Rebuilding America's Defenses"
Good Summary and Full Text of Report available at informationclearinghouse:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm
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