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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 01:35 AM
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Torture need not involve physical pain
In their study, Basoglu and his team assessed 279 survivors of torture from around the world for post-traumatic stress disorder and other psychiatric conditions.

The researchers divided events into seven categories: sexual torture; physical torture; psychological manipulations; humiliating treatment; forced stress positions; sensory discomforts; and deprivation of food, water or other basic needs.

"Sham executions, witnessing torture of close ones, threats of rape, fondling of genitals and isolation were associated with at least as much, if not more, distress than some of the physical torture stressors," the authors said.

The study's findings appear in the March issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20070306-09330900-bc-britain-torture.xml



This study puts a thread about a banned ad using staged rape to sell shoes in a completely disturbing perspective doesn't it? If you cannot understand seeing another person being threatened or hurt has an effect on your perceptions and when exposure occurs in mass as in numbers exposed to ads showing violence,and mock torture for 'entertainment' the repeated seeing of it..really can have effects on people over time and have effects on society, if you cannot comprehend the effects,Like homeless guys beaten up for"fun" ,Wheelchair bound hospital discharges dumped on the street to die, A trans ER patient mocked by and ambulance crew as she died..and and you refuse to,or cannot feel , even admit the emotions , seeing such scenes evoke inside in private to yourself .. you must be dead inside.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x358015

Also remember the guy who became the icon of torture at Abu Gharib? the guy with the wires on his hands on a box,and pointy black hood? He was not shocked, yet he was told he might be it was up to him...And he was told he was causing his own suffering.
http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-2005-05-12.html

When someone tells a victim of trauma that they caused it themselves, or chose it (new agers)they got what they deserved (cultural denial)they are basically re-torturing the traumatized.

Making sure the memories will destroy them. And our bully loving psychopathic culture id doing it's part.. This is why I get so angry over oblivious desensitized people that tend to minimize other's traumas because it tweaks them,and play pretend about the effects of seeing repeated violence sexual or otherwise twords others couched as"entertainment". I don't like torture movies because of the way it makes me cold and numb and it sickens me.

Movies are deliberately designed to get you to sympathize with certain characters emotionally, it's part of the"experience" than when those characters you empathize with get tortured, captured, stalked abused,beaten raped..Say like in a movie like house of 1,000 corpses,Saw,Passion,or Hostel(saw, Passion and hostel are movies I did not see but I saw the commercials for them and felt a deep anger..and anxiety. So what do you feel when someone you thought was noble character you empathize with in a movie is traumatized ? Do you even permit yourself to know those feelings of outrage and pain anymore? Oh the world is good it's just a few bad apples..Yeah right.
http://www.counterpunch.org/bond08232006.html
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=6194374

Just a thought.This comment isn't directed twords anyone in particular but if it strikes a nerve it was meant for you.

Maybe this is why as a society we are becoming more shallow, detached and narcissistic every year. And why Americans shop like fiends. You don't exactly feel in control when almost on a daily basis you may be watching people that touch you emotionally being tortured on TV.Somewhere in your mind, the memory is left there in the unconscious.
The unconscious mind has no "filter" like the ego to defend it..

Generation Me: 'the self is their native tongue’. Unlike their parents who talked about ‘journeys’ of self-discovery - 'the culture of the self is our hometown,’ writes Twenge as she was born during this era. She goes on:

We don’t have to join groups or talk of journeys, because we’re already there. We don’t need to 'polish' the self … because we take for granted that its’ already shiny. We don’t need to look inward; we already know what we will find. Since we were small children, we were taught to put ourselves first. That’s just the way the world works – why dwell on it. Let’s go to the mall.
http://www.centreforconfidence.co.uk/pp/index.php?p=c2lkPTYmdGlkPTAmaWQ9MTcx
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/mind/s817005.htm

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 01:55 AM
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1. Can you imagine the GOP right wing religious moms
doing anything in their day to put down the war? The elitists know there is no way they are going to allow their kids to be shipped off to Iraq. No way...That's for others.
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oldgrowth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:08 AM
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2. Sensory deprivation link scary shit
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 03:54 AM
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3. Scary shit, indeed
Ever notice how "Christians" are the first to torture and degrade their fellow human beings?

If there is a hell, it's going to be very crowded with Bible-thumpers....
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