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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:19 AM
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Mar. 9 Daily Impeachment News: post high crimes and misdemeanor news here
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Mar. 8 Daily Impeachment News: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x368202
Lots of good news there.

There is one sour note today, that from NM yesterday.

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Senate prevents Congress recommendation to impeach Bush
By Walter Rubel Santa Fe Bureau Chief
Article Launched: 03/09/2007 12:00:00 AM MST
http://daily-times.com/ci_5391431

SANTA FE — The New Mexico Senate used a procedural move Thursday to effectively kill a joint resolution that would have urged Congress to launch an investigation into the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney.

The Senate did not vote on the resolution itself. Rather, it voted 26-13 not to adopt the committee report from the Senate Judiciary Committee. By refusing to adopt the committee report, senators have prevented the resolution from reaching the floor this session.

"The bill, for all intents and purposes, is dead," said Senate President pro temp. Ben Altamirano, D-Silver City.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:28 AM
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1. Berkeley has voted to impeach the president

BERKELEY
City manager cautions against Rumsfeld resolution
Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, March 9, 2007
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/09/BAGRPOICJ01.DTL&type=politics


Berkeley has voted to impeach the president, stop the war and ban sweatshops. But the city manager wants it to stop short of prosecuting Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes.

On the City Council's agenda Tuesday is a resolution that would make Berkeley the first U.S. government entity to become a co-plaintiff in a German criminal complaint against Rumsfeld, the former defense secretary; Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; and other high-ranking Bush administration officials for torture and other war crimes.

City Manager Phil Kamlarz recommends the council not adopt the resolution, because the city staff doesn't have the expertise or time to determine whether the complaint is justified and whether the city would suffer fiscal or legal consequences from the move.

"Charging United States officials with crimes in a foreign country is of course a very serious matter," Kamlarz wrote.....

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:28 AM
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2. Kick for visibility. - n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:19 PM
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20. ditto
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:31 AM
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3. CALAIS, Vermont weighs in on Bush, Iraq war
Vermont weighs in on Bush, Iraq war
By John Curran - Associated Press
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/politics/16868498.htm

CALAIS, Vt. – Packed into their 140-year-old Town Hall on a clear, frigid morning, some residents of Calais – population 1,552 – took care of business.

They talked about fire department contracts and the town highway fund, appropriated $2,500 for a town swimming program and boosted the property tax exemption for disabled veterans, all without much debate – and no rancor.

But when Article 23 came up, the mood changed. That was the one calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

Gus Seelig, the moderator, asked the crowd of about 125 people to keep it civil. “We’re not going to attack our neighbors,” he said. “They’re still going to be our neighbors when we’re done here today.”

With that, the debate began. ....... more
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:21 AM
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25. Oh good, my friends just moved there, I will ask them what happened!
K & R
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:34 AM
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4. Opinion - Impeachment debate not legislative priority
Opinion - Impeachment debate not legislative priority
Friday, March 9, 2007
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070309/OPINION/703090330/1006

Dan DeWalt is excited about the fact that close to 40 nonbinding resolutions calling for the impeachment of President Bush passed at this year's town meetings. DeWalt, a Newfane selectman and leader of the impeachment resolution movement, hopes the results will put pressure on the Legislature to take a stand for impeachment.

It's not news that people are unhappy with the president's performance in office. Bush is polling an approval rating of 30 percent to 35 percent, a low for his presidency. The open forum of a town meeting is as good a place as any for people to voice their displeasure about the president, but the Legislature shouldn't take the outcome of the referendums as a signal to take up the issue in earnest in Montpelier. This is one more distraction from the business at hand in a session whose chief headlines have included global warming, doctor-assisted dying and an Iraq war resolution.

Back in February, House Speaker Gaye Symington said any impeachment resolution will be referred to committee. JRH.015, the resolution "Requesting Congress to Commence Impeachment Proceedings Against the President of the United States," sits with the House Judiciary Committee.

"I think, in general, we have a limited time to address national issues," Symington told The Associated Press. Let's hope the speaker stays the course. ...

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:40 AM
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5. For those wanting to become an activist for impeachment
Edited on Fri Mar-09-07 11:42 AM by demnan
Because the House of Representatives are the ones who impeach the President of the United States, Democrats.com encourages every Congressional District to form its own Impeachment Committee:

First go to http://www.Democrats.com and search for your Congressional District. Your district may already have an Impeachment Committee, if so there will be a contact person listed to add you to the group. If not, you may start one. Several of us started one in January for the 11th Congressional District of VA. Our group is called the VA 11th CD Patriots for Peace and Accountability. If you live in the 11th, please PM me so I can add you to our group. We have a Google Group. We have weekly meetings in Woodbridge, VA.

Here is another helpful portal page which has links to various websites regarding the impeachment movement:

http://www.impeach07.org/

And if you live in the Washington, D.C. area please note that tonight there is a conference on impeachment, details below.

Thank you,

Nancy
VA 11th CD Patriots for Peace and Accountability

Washington Peace Center Hosts:

Investigations to Impeachment: A Panel Discussion


Contact: Pete Perry,
202-234-2000


"Impeachment is coming this spring, and among the chief players will
be citizens of the United States."
David Swanson


WASHINGTON - Although leading Democrats on Capitol Hill are
repeating a mantra of "Impeachment is off the table," the Washington
Peace Center, a 44-year-old peace and justice organization insists the
topic deserves open and fair discussion.


Join panelists Ray McGovern, founder of Veteran Intelligence
Professionals for Sanity and 27 year veteran CIA analyst; David
Swanson, co-founder of AfterDowningStreet.org and former staffer for
Dennis Kucinich's presidential campaign; Dave Lindorff, author of "The
Case for Impeachment," and John Judge, former staffer of Rep. Cynthia
McKinney who helped draft articles of impeachment legislation, in a
discussion of the case against President George W. Bush


"Impeachment resolutions are making their way through state
legislatures. Congressmen Kucinich and Conyers have said they will
impeach if Bush and Cheney attack Iran," said David Swanson.
"Impeachment is coming this spring, and among the chief players will
be citizens of the United States."


Friday, March 9th
6:30 p.m
St. Stephen Episcopal Church
16th and Newton Streets, N.W.


The event is open to the public, but a suggested $5 donation will be
requested at the door.


Pete Perry will moderate the discussion.


Washington Peace Center
P.O. Box 50032
Washington DC 20091-0032
w...@igc.org / 202-234-2000
http://washingtonpeacecenter.org


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:42 AM
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6. "... "Impeach Bush" crowd .. still stinging from Bill Clinton's impeachment..."
One indication of the popularity of impeachment is the degree to which those with opposing views take notice:

Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. In 1985 the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence.

Dr. Baldwin is the host of a lively, hard-hitting syndicated radio talk show on the Genesis Communications Network called, "Chuck Baldwin Live" This is a daily, one hour long call-in show in which Dr. Baldwin addresses current event topics from a conservative Christian point of view.

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SHOULD PRESIDENT BUSH BE IMPEACHED?
By Pastor Chuck Baldwin - March 9, 2007
NewsWithViews.com - http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin353.htm

There have been calls for the impeachment of President Bush from certain left-wing groups for years. For the most part, those calls have been correctly ignored. Some of the "Impeach Bush" crowd are still stinging from Bill Clinton's impeachment and yearn to see a Republican president impeached. Others have major policy differences with the President, and some are still angry at the possibility that Bush was prematurely granted the presidency by the Supreme Court in that "photo-finish" race with Al Gore.

However, a sitting president must never be the target of impeachment proceedings because certain groups disagree with his policies. Neither can we allow impeachment to be used as a means to overturn an election. And by all means, we must never allow impeachment to be used for purposes of enacting political revenge. .....more
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:44 AM
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7. Hagel:"Before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment."
His face has darkened and his eyes seem to have turned to stone.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has come before the Foreign
Relations Committee of a radically different Senate to try and
explain, among other things, how sending twenty-one thousand
additional United States troops into a meat grinder of a ground war is
somehow not an escalation of the conflict. She keeps calling it an
"augmentation." She crawfishes on the subject of what will happen if
the new strategy somehow sends American troops across the Iranian
border. Chuck Hagel is having none of this.

"Some of us," Hagel says, "remember 1970, Madam Secretary, and that
was Cambodia, and when our government lied to the American people and
said, We didn't cross the border into Cambodia. In fact, we did. I
happen to know something about that.


"I have to say, Madam Secretary, that I think this speech given last
night by this president represents the most dangerous foreign-policy
blunder in this country since Vietnam -- if it's carried out.


"I will resist it."


Rice sits there like an ice sculpture. The committee room erupts in
applause.


I will resist it.


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More:


http://www.esquire.com/features/chuckhagel0407-2


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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:45 AM
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8. Hannity Re-challenges Mayor Anderson to Debate

Hannity Re-challenges Mayor Anderson to Debate
March 8th, 2007 @ 10:30pm
Richard Piatt Reporting - http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=968403

Talk show host Sean Hannity has challenged Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson to a debate over the war in Iraq and impeaching President Bush.

Hannity made his challenge on his radio show today, after his producers apparently canceled Anderson's appearance on the television show "Hannity and Colmes."

They haven't talked to each other yet, but they're both practically spitting fire talking about each other. And, if this debate actually happens, it'll probably be quite an event.

Mayor Anderson's rallying cry to impeach President Bush made friends in Washington state last week, but it inflamed old enemies in Utah, where approval ratings for the President--while dropping--are still higher than any other state.

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:50 AM
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9. Activities our CDIC is up to, to give you an example
We have a very active group of people at the VA 11th CD Patriots for Peace and Accountability. One of our group is meeting with Senator Webb next week to discuss investigations. He is teaming up with the group from UnitedForJustice. Another member is coordinating a meeting with Congressman Tom Davis.

We are signed up as a contingent to the March 17 peace march. We will be riding in the Peace Bus with the Prince William Peacemakers, a group of peace activists from Manassas, VA. A few weeks ago we held a peace demonstration at an intersection near Congressman Tom Davis' house. We had some signs that thanked Davis for voting not to escalate the troops, and to bring the troops home. We also demonstrate weekly in Prince William County with the Peacemakers.

And we're all going to the Impeachment Conference in Washington, D.C. (see my post above).
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:55 AM
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10. ROSEN: "Left-wingnuts are revolting once again - in both senses of the word."
Opinion Columnists - Rosen: March 9, 2007
Let's impeach . . . Lincoln
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion_columnists/article/0,2777,DRMN_23972_5404583,00.html

Mike Rosen's radio show airs daily from 9 a.m. to noon on 850 KOA. He can be reached by e-mail at mikerosen@850koa.com
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Left-wingnuts are revolting once again - in both senses of the word. They've formed a new campaign dubbed Impeach07, "to pursue the immediate impeachment of George Bush and Dick Cheney through widespread public protest, creative dissent, media activism, and coordinated lobbying" - all the things they do for fun anyway.

Included in this project are the usual suspects: Cindy Sheehan, Code Pink Women for Peace, the Green Party, National Lawyers Guild, Progressive Democrats of America, Velvet Revolution, Hip Hop Caucus, yada, yada, yada. On March 17, the anniversary of the start of the Iraq war, they're planning to march on the Pentagon to demand: "End the War and Impeach Bush Now!"

Opposing wars is a lot easier than fighting them, especially when things aren't going well. There were many who wanted to throw in the towel when things were gong badly for Gen. George Washington in 1776. ....

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 12:06 PM
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11. David Swanson: "It seems everyone's getting into the act, except Congress."
Can Congress End the War? by David Swanson
March 05, 2007 - http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=12271

The shortest route to ending the Iraq war (and preventing additional wars) is almost certainly through Congress. Influencing the White House directly is unimaginable, and stopping the war through the courts unlikely. Clearly, Congress is the way to go. But what specifically can Congress do?

How We Got Here

The peace movement lobbied a Republican Congress without success for four years. Then, on November 7, 2006, the American public elected a Democratic Congress in a clear mandate ..... they were voting against the war; and by "against the war," they meant "against the war," not "against the escalation."
....

Voters also appeared to be voting for accountability and possibly for the launching of impeachment hearings as well. Polls prior to the election found that a majority of Americans believed a Democratic Congress would impeach.

.....

The other event that could take us all surprising places is the completion of the trial of I. Lewis Scooter Libby. The evidence made public by that trial points to an urgent need for impeachment proceedings against Vice President Cheney. The evidence suggests that Cheney was the driving force behind the campaign of retribution against ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson, including the outing of his wife, CIA agent Valerie Plame. Journalist Murray Waas has indicated some of the points that cry out for investigation. New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof has urged Cheney to "come clean," offer an explanation for his actions, or resign. A blogger with the handle emptywheel has drafted a mock indictment of Cheney, and Wil S. Hylton has recently published possible articles of impeachment against the Vice President in the men's fashion magazine GQ.

It seems everyone's getting into the act, except Congress.

....... much more
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 12:22 PM
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12. NM State Senator - Sponsor of Impeachment Resolution - Releases Scathing Statement
Hissyspit just osted this
DISCUSS & Original message = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x373288

NM State Senator - Sponsor of Killed Impeachment Resolution - Releases Scathing Statement

..... in its entirety.

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Statement by Senator John Grubesic on Action to Stop Debate of NM Impeachment Resolution

This is a statement just released by Senator John Grubesic (D-Santa Fe), who was one of the sponsors of SJR 5, the impeachment resolution .......
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 12:34 PM
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13. "... nothing but a bunch of two-faced, opportunistic, scum-sucking liars..."
Charles Karel Bouley
03.09.2007
Pardon Me?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-karel-bouley/pardon-me_b_43019.html

I truly thought I had seen it all and that I was a pretty good judge of the underhanded hypocritical maneuvers of those on the right but the Libby trial really has taken the cake. Before the gavel even fell on the verdicts, which, by the way, were guilty on four out of five charges, before the penalty phase even began, right-wingers were calling for a Presidential pardon.

....

... I took great heat from those that listened to my radio show as I supported Clinton and denounced those on a witch hunt. The right countered, saying it was not a witch hunt, it was about justice. He lied under oath and that is not to be taken lightly. Therefore, he must be punished, to the FULLEST extent of the law, which meant impeachment. Impeachment. Our current President has done so much more damage to our nation than Bill Clinton and he remains unimpeached. But Republicans said yes, we must impeach Clinton, he lied to a Grand Jury, he lied under oath. It was not partisan. It was not a political hatchet job on a great man. Oh no, it was a necessary bit of justice to be doled out.

Well, how can I put this gently, LIARS. You are nothing but a bunch of two-faced, opportunistic, scum-sucking liars. Anyone that thinks Libby should be pardoned is, in fact, a traitor to the United States of America, as is Libby and his boss Dick. Guilty of treason and while they are not charged with it nor convicted, they both should be. ....

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 12:58 PM
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14. From the BLOGOSPHERE
Using Google Blog Search, last 24 hours, turns up very contradictory viewpoints, and a few really good slams. It is obvious impeachment is gaining momentum. Here are just a few. Here is the Search URL too: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en

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Right in a Left World
Comments and opinions of a conservative Viet Nam Veteran deep in the very liberal Pacific Northwest
http://rightinaleftworld.blogspot.com/2007/03/impeach-bush-evidence.html

"Looking at the “evidence” we see hearsay quotes from some of the more prominent leftwing biased sources in the country. Let’s look through them...."

Comments allowed.

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The Reasons For Treason
Ray McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
http://www.graphictruth.com/2007/03/reasons-for-treason.html

"There is no polite euphemism for this. It was, and it remains a conscious act of treason, in furtherance of a treasonous effort to subvert our nation and transform it into the servant of his own ambitions.

As for George Bush, who promised that he'd fire anyone who was responsible for the leak; well, he either knew who was responsible at the time or became aware soon afterward. Either way, that rises to the level of conspiracy to commit treason, or conspiracy after the fact. To say that either is an impeachable offense is the most British of understatements...."

Comments allowed.

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A variety of comments, with this summary:

"Headlines : Government
Grassroots Effort Under Way to Force Impeachment of Bush & Cheney
Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:35:51 - http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/13432/Grassroots_Effort_Under_Way_to_Force_Impeachment_of_Bush_Cheney

Summary:
It’s not that I think the problem is the people and not the system. Removing Bush & Cheney from power will not amount to a magical cure-all for the woes of nationalism, or anything even close to it. But if the American people do not remove these war criminals from power and bring them to justice, the precedent set for future presidents will be a dangerous one. If the American people fail at bringing Bush & Co. to justice, the message sent will be one of free reign and unaccountability. If, on the other hand, the American people do bring them to justice, the message sent will be one of at least some semblance of accountability to the alleged constituents of our allegedly elected “representatives.” Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is the first step in bringing them to justice. Then we send their asses off to the Hague."

Comments allowed

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:05 PM
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15. SCHOLARS: Backgrounder on Impeachment = Legal Information Institute
From Cornell Law School. Prepared by Brian J. Henchey for the Legal Information Institute
http://www.law.cornell.edu/background/impeach/impeach.htm

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." -- U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4

"This collection of material on the law of impeachment is a work in progress. If you have suggestions of additional material or sources, comments, or feedback of any kind, please email the webmaster!"

References and Suggested Readings LINKS:

......

* Official Documents
o Indpendent Counsel Report
o White House Rebuttal I
o White House Rebuttal II
o House Resolution 525 (ordering publication of the IC's report)
o Senate Rules Governing Impeachment
o House Rules Governing Impeachment
o US Constitution
o 28 U.S. Code, Chapter 40 (Independent Counsel Statute - see especially § 595(c)
o Nixon v. US, 506 U.S. 224 (1993) (Involving impeachment of a federal judge)

* Related Topic Sites
o Richard Nixon's Articles of Impeachment
o Andrew Johnson's Impeachment Ordeal
o Guide to Impeachment and Censure Materials
o CNN
o MSNBC

* Textual Sources
o Michael J. Gerhardt, The Federal Impeachment Process: A Constitutional and Historical Analysis, Princeton Univ. Press (1996)
o Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers No. 65--The Powers of the Senate (1788)
o Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers No. 66--Objections to the Power of the Senate to Set as a Court of Impeachments (1788)
o William Rehnquist, Grand Inquests: The Historic Impeachments of Justice Samuel Chase and President Andrew Johnson (1992)
o Gene Smith, High Crimes and Misdemeanors, McGraw Hill (1985)
o Peter Hoffer and N.E. Hull, Impeachment in America 1635-1805, Yale Univ. Press (1984)
o Thomas Kingsley, The Federal Impeachment Process: A Bibliographic Guide to English and American Precedence, Cornell University Libraries (1974)
o Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, The Final Days, Touchstone Books (2d ed. 1994)

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:13 PM
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16. Bush Dodges a Constitutional Bullet in New Mexico
The Baltimore Chronicle. KNOW YOUR GOVERNMENT:
Bush Dodges a Constitutional Bullet in New Mexico
by DAVE LINDORFF
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/030907Lindorff.shtml

President Bush dodged a Constitutional bullet in New Mexico Thursday, when nine Democrats in the state senate joined all 17 Republicans to prevent a proposed joint resolution calling for the US House to begin impeachment hearings to come to a floor vote. Supporters of the measure said it appeared that the Democrats in question mostly came from Republican districts and were worried about electoral repercussions of a pro-impeachment vote.

There is reason to suspect, however, that there was some arm-twisting from national Democratic leaders, who appear dead set on avoiding impeachment hearings, whatever the public sentiment on impeachment (Newsweek reported last fall that 51 percent of Americans favor impeachment) and whatever Bush’s crimes, Constitutional violations and abuses of power.

In the state of Washington, where another such effort is being made in that state’s senate, the state’s senior Senator, Pat Murray, and one of its senior representatives, Jay Inslee, both Democrats, have been lobbying state senate leaders behind the scenes urging them to prevent Sen. Eric Oemig’s proposed joint resolution on impeachment ......

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:19 PM
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17. Seattle Times, Letters to the Editor: "This time, let's make it a double..."
March 8, 2007
Letters to the Editor
"Time for impeachment."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2003606309_thulets08.html

White House, black cloud

Editor, The Times:

Just as this administration has done since its inception, another loyal worker has been thrown to the lions in the name of the cause

.....

Time for impeachment. This is the real deal this time, not like the done-for-prime-time impeachment of Bill Clinton. This time, let's make it a double and get George Bush and Dick Cheney to go home.

— James Dunn, Marysville
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:31 PM
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18. Facing Our Constitutional Crisis (w/Poll)

Facing Our Constitutional Crisis (w/Poll)
By Tom Ball - 03/09/2007 11:28:12 AM EST
http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/3/9/112812/8547

In the run-up to the 2000 decision of Bush v. Gore, the Republican establishment worked tirelessly to frame the events of those days as a 'constitutional crisis' -- a situation so dire, so delicate -- as to threaten the very foundation of our nation's existence.

So, it was with great relief that Justice Scalia hastily passed down the high court's decision to forego a genuine manual recount and award to George W. Bush the White House and all its associated powers, real or imagined.

Little did the Supremes (or the rest of the Republican establishment) imagine that those actions would be the catalyst that set forth a series of unfortunate, unforgivable, and completely unnecessary, events that would eventually lead to a genuine constitutional crises -- a situation truly dire and legitimately threatening to the founding principles of America.

But here we are -- crisis in hand. ......

.....more....

Should George W. Bush be impeached?
No! That would simply make the Democrats look like unpatriotic extremists. 2%
No! After all, it's not like Bush is guilty of getting a blow**b. 2%
Yes! The integrity of America's founding principles must be restored. 42%
F**k yeah! Bush and Co are the greatest threat to planet Earth in 65 million years. Get him out!!! 48%
Beats me. I'm a fence-riding, spineless, waffle-bunny with no opinion worth sharing. 4%

Votes: 47

Posted only 2 hours ago.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 02:49 PM
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19. John Birch Society: Vermont Votes for Impeachment
WOW, they still have a John Birch Society!

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Vermont Votes for Impeachment
By Alan Scholl
Published: 2007-03-09 17:36
http://www.jbs.org/node/3022

ARTICLE SYNOPSIS:

If it were up to Vermont, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney would be impeached.

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Editor's note: The John Birch Society has taken no official position at this time on the proposed impeachment of Bush and Cheney. However, we felt our members and supporters should be aware of this development.

Alan Scholl is the Director of Mission and Campaigns for the John Birch Society.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:59 AM
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21. "... Cheney has committed impeachable offenses. So has George Bush," argues McGovern.

George McGovern to Cheney: Resign

Opinion John Nichols -

The Nation -- George McGovern has a word for Vice President Dick Cheney: "Resign."

Posted 03/09/2007 @ 11:50pm - http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=173825

Responding to Tuesday's conviction of Cheney's former chief-of-staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, on charges of obstruction of justice, perjury and lying to the FBI -- after a trial that revealed Cheney's intimate involvement with a scheme to discredit a critic of the administration's war policies -- the former congressman, senator and presidential candidate said it was time for the vice president to go.

"What we have learned about how he has conducted himself leaves no doubt that he should be out of office," McGovern says of Cheney. "If he had any respect for the Constitution or the country, he would resign."

And if Cheney does not take the liberal Democrat's counsel?

"There is no question in my mind that Cheney has committed impeachable offenses. So has George Bush," argues McGovern. "Bush is much more impeachable than Richard Nixon was. That's been clear for some time.....

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:20 AM
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22. K&R. Thank you, L. Coyote.
Terrific job. :thumbsup:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:04 AM
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23. FOX: Would Bush-Hating Dems Also Have Wanted to Impeach Abe Lincoln?
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > THE BIG STORY W/ JOHN GIBSON
Would Bush-Hating Dems Also Have Wanted to Impeach Abe Lincoln?
Friday, March 09, 2007 - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258107,00.html
By John Gibson

The Dems are fighting with each other over how to lose in Iraq quickly enough. And to make sure there is something they can all agree on they're also organizing something called Impeach '07, which is aimed at, well, I'm sure you know who. You may also recall that Democrats briefly argued whether they could or should actually go back in time in order to take back their vote authorizing the Iraq war.

So combing the two — impeaching a president who violated the Constitution and pursued a very unpopular war, and the urge to go back and redo things that should have been done right the first time — we must conclude the Democrats would want to go back for a huge impeachment do-over: the impeachment of Abe Lincoln.

This idea comes from columnist and talk show host Mike Rosen out in Denver. He points out that like Bush, Lincoln used the military to attack a sovereign state — in this case the Confederate South — .......

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Here is a little history for Fox & Company (allusion intended):


"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable--a most sacred right--a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world,"
Abraham Lincoln, speech in the U.S. House of Representatives, subject: The War on Mexico. Delivered January 12, 1848.

At about the time of that statement Mexico was under siege by United States troops. President Polk defended his ordering the Mexican invasion, but Lincoln had this to say about what provoked the hostility,

"The marching of an army into the midst of a peaceful Mexican settlement, frightening the inhabitants away, leaving their growing crops and their property to destruction, to you may appear a perfectly amiable, peaceful, unprovoking procedure; but it does not appear so to us. So to call such an act, to us appears no other than a naked, impudent absurdity...the war was unnecessarily and unconstitutionally commences by the President."
A. Lincoln, July 27, 1848.

"...refusing to accept a cessation of territory, would be to abandon all our just demands, and to wage the war, bearing all the expense, without a purpose or definite object."
President Polk.

On Feb. 2, 1848, the Guadalupe Hidalgo Treaty was signed. Mexico conceded Texas, California, and the Territory of New Mexico for 15 million pesos. That many pesos will buy one tract home lot today.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:20 AM
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24. Subpoena Dick Cheney by David Swanson
Subpoena Dick Cheney by David Swanson
Friday, 09 March 2007 - http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/1146/32/

I've spoken at impeachment forums, debates, rallies, strategy meetings, and workshops, but tonight's event in Washington, D.C., will be the first I've spoken at since the Vice President's Chief of Staff was convicted for lying to protect him. So, I'm going in expecting fewer objections and reservations about impeachment. Still, it's useful to yet again lay out all the familiar ones and why they are more wrong than ever.

I understand that Congressman Henry Waxman may have the prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald testify next week. That's an excellent start. But if Fitzgerald will not testify voluntarily, he should be subpoenaed, as should Libby, Rove, Armitage, Bartlett, Matalin, Fleischer, and Cheney. Each of these people needs to be put under oath and on camera and questioned. ....

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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:25 AM
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26. K & R...out of sheer interest and support. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:37 AM
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27. Scripted Libby Trial Ends on Cue: What Can Happen Next?

Scripted Libby Trial Ends on Cue: What Can Happen Next?
by William Hughes (Saturday, March 10, 2007) - http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/41518

The Prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, crafted the “Scooter” Libby case to protect the Bush-Cheney Gang. Even the members of Libby’s jury knew something was missing. Now, it’s time for the House’s Judiciary Committee to pick up the baton. Sen. Harry Reid (D-NEV) said Libby manipulated “intelligence” to get us into the war and that the case revealed “deeper truths” about VP Dick Cheney. I say: “Bring Cheney to the Bar of Justice!”

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There can be little doubt from an evidentiary point of view that conspiring to “manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics,” if proven, fits within the definition of “other High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” as set out under the U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 4. This particular provision of the Constitution deals with the impeachment of a President, Vice-President, or other “civil officers of the U.S.” I submit that there is more than enough prima facie evidence on the public record for the House’s Judiciary Committee, led by its distinguished Chairman, the Hon. John Conyers (D-MI), to launch an immediate impeachment inquiry into Cheney’s exact role in this “sordid affair.” <2>

.... more ....

William Hughes is a Baltimore attorney and the author of "Andrew Jackson vs. New World Order" (Authors Choice Press) and “Saying ‘No’ to the War Party”. He contributed this article to Media Monitors Network (MMN) from Maryland, USA.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:46 AM
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28. Late Night kick. Participate. Start the next day thread if you have an article.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:29 PM
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29. Kick.(nt)
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