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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:26 PM
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Sensenbrenner rips FBI & DOJ on Lehrer News Hour
I am shocked. I think that the Justice Department has overreached. There's something seriously wrong with the internal management of the Justice Department, and that better be fixed, because if it isn't, the support for the internal part of our war against terrorism is going to evaporate rapidly.

REP. JAMES SENSENBRENNER: Well, you know, first of all, we do give law enforcement in this country a lot of discretion. And that's been the way since the beginning of the republic. The FBI has very clearly abused its discretion, and in its abuse of the discretion, is going to end up bringing about a reaction by the Congress.
I think the use of NSLs is going to have to be restricted by statute. And very frankly, I think there ought to be some heads that roll here, and I'm not calling for the resignation of Director Mueller. But whoever was responsible for this incredibly sloppy administration is going to have to be called to account.

And, remember, we've had this following the ham-handed dismissal of seven United States attorneys and a raid on a congressional office that actually forced the president to intervene to curtail the activities of the Justice Department. And I can't remember if that's ever happened in history.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/government_programs/jan-june07/patriotact_03-09.html
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:29 PM
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1. Fat Jimmy...
Removes his surgically-altered lips from Bush's behind just long enough to give himself some political cover.

Now, about RealID, Fat Jimmy, you facist scumbag...
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:31 PM
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2. Hey something is coming down
He's not triangulating for nothing, he said that these abuses (attorney firing and abuse
of NSL requests) are the worst abuse that he's ever seen.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:34 PM
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3. Well, there is an outside chance...
He's feeling a bit used and hung out to dry. After all, it ain't like he told these criminals "no" ever in his career, is it?

The life of a craven power suckup never ends attractively.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:35 PM
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4. well, he said that there's a chance support of the Patriot Act
could evaporate over this, I would say it's 2 to 1.

:-)
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:39 PM
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6. I say...
Pull that rug right out from under them. Make his little nightmares come true. It's the worst law since The Ailen and Sedition Act.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:43 PM
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10. Hey, I think you are right, it gives away too much power
with no oversight, all they have to say is what they are looking for is related to an
investigation and that's all they need, and the person being investigated doesn't know
that their bankaccount, etc is being looked at, and who is supposed to stick up for your
rights, your bank, your phone company, your internet provider????
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:35 PM
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5. I so didn't believe what I heard, I had to post
here to ask?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x380499

...and then immediately watched it again on another PBS station to be sure.

Have the worms turned? Could the Repugs being growing some scruples - is it possible?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:41 PM
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7. Nahhhh.
This is just a few of them playing some CYA. They all had to get their Scruples Gland surgically removed to qualify as repuke candidates.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:45 PM
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11. look I would read the entire interview if I were you
when he starting ranting that fbi director Mueller was like the saying the path to hell
is paved with good intentions, when Sensenbrenner who is not an emotional person loses
his cool, something major is coming down.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:45 PM
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12. Ok, I'll give up scruples too if it gets
Gonzales handed his walking papers! Oh what a happy day that would be.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:47 PM
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14. well, he did say that heads should roll over this
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:41 PM
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8. YOU and ME both, I have been checking the website like
a woodpecker so I could read it, first of all, Sensenbrenner reminds me of a cigar
star indian, he displays little emotion at all, when he brought out about Mueller
and the path to hell paved with good intentions, whoah, I said to myself, am I hearing
things????
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:43 PM
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9. He is an unindicted co-conspirator traitor, remember when he closed ......
The democrats hearing on the patriot act?


After repeated criticism of the Bush administration, the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee yesterday gaveled a hearing to a close and walked out while Democrats continued to testify -- but with their microphones shut off.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/10/AR2005061002110.html

I won't forget that!!!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:47 PM
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13. well, I didn't forget it either but the Dem was quick to point out
that most everybody knew nothing about what was in the Patriot Act except those who wrote
it, and who was Mr. Patriot Act: Sensenbrenner, himself.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:50 PM
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15. Yep,
I think something is going down because
it would be like Goebbels denouncing Hitler's Enabling Act.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:59 PM
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16. yes, becuz the whole purpose of it, was to snoop, peer and pry
wherever it profited them.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:01 PM
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17. I have EVERY confidences Bush will reveal a finding by next Tuesday
that has a date that is before these atrocities were committed.

But you know Jimmy is a xenophobe, not an idiot. He wouldn't be this far off script, so something is up.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:03 PM
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18. Yes, and it has to be very damaging, or he would not be losing it
Edited on Fri Mar-09-07 10:05 PM by MissWaverly
Could it be, could it be, the release of proof that the fbi spied on Congress, not on you
or me, we are peons, but the high and mighty ones that sit in our congress.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:17 PM
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19. they do`t call him "batshit crazy" for nothing
never fear folks-he`ll come to his senses in a few days
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:19 PM
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20. well, he's thrown it out into the press, even if he backpedals
this has to be a blow for Bushco.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:22 PM
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21. Hmmmm...
:popcorn:

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:24 PM
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22. hey, if Gonzo goes, I join you with a popcorn toast
I can't wait, it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop.

:-)

I am ready for the another fitzmas present.

:-)
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:28 PM
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23. *LOL*,...Sensenbrenner?!?!?!!! He must be "skeered" the neocons,...
,...are doing their usual 'arm-twisting' except with even greater power to frame any one they please.

I never liked that man, much. But, if he's becoming more cognizant of the oppressive (tyrannical) activities of this administration, all he has to gather is the courage to oppose such gross violations of this nation's basic structure AGAINST such violations.

Courage. hmpf :shrug: Courage by more members of the Republican party than a very quaint few (the courage of Ron Paul) must be acknowledged. Face it, the Bush&CO committed REPUKES have profiteered way too much to back either their platform or their COMMON constituents (profiteering companies excepted),...

I'm ranting, without any particular direction on this,...just ranting.

Sorry.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:29 PM
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24. that's okay, maybe he's afraid that he will end up like Scooter
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:08 AM
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25. .
:kick:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:32 AM
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26. "The FBI spied on Congress members?
I strongly suspect that is the case, both Rethugs and Dems.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 06:46 AM
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27. Agreed.
Repub and Dem pols, members of the media, members of the UN, etc. .........

I truly believe that blackmail has been the primary strategy and trump card of BushCo.
Why else would Warner and Hagel vote against their own resolutions, as they did last month? It was bizarre.
What else could possibly account for that?

Here's video of Hagel, all fired up ... before he caved
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCeUhLkGto

Daily Kos story: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/5/175611/9039

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:28 AM
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29. Yes, I believe it and it shows nobody should have this power
Because we can not govern like this because the government is not based on compromise and cooperation but intimidation.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:27 AM
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28. I only want to know one damn thing- what is going to be done about
it. They broke the law. More lip service BS that takes this country down or are people going to be held accountable?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:33 AM
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30. yes, I am sick of heartfelt apologies or denial with no action
I don't want to hear that it was a few bad apples, those bad apples sure get around all
the way from Katrina, to wiretaps, to NSL authorizations to Abu Ghraib, to election
hokey pokey.
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stonebone Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:52 PM
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31. kick
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