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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:47 AM
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PHOTOS: Imagine a US President beloved internationally, meeting the people...
...seeing them face to face, unafraid...not confining visits to military bases or "surprise" visits...not whisked off to some seaside hotel retreat while the population protests and burns effigies? Adored, respected, celebrated? Was it so long ago?









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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:52 AM
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1. I miss those good old days.....sob, gulp. n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:53 AM
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2. Great photos
Junior wouldn't dare stand exposed in front of a crowd of that size.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:59 AM
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3. And-
Home and Away photos-


Barack Obama in Kenya


John Edwards - New Orleans



General Wes Clark



Governor Richardson
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:36 AM
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12. You should have used this one of Clark:


(It goes with the "beloved crowds" theme. :) )
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:22 AM
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4. Did any other president ever employ 'free speech zones'?
And did anybody else screen all the audiences to ensure only zealots were in attendance? I don't remember other presidents doing that.

What a nightmare these six long years have been. And two to go. But at least we have control of Congress now.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:27 AM
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5. Yeah, but some US officials just inspire excitement South of the Border. . .
Vice President Richard Nixon visits Caracas, 1958. . .





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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:36 AM
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21. Nixon was recognized early for the thug he was.
At the time, would they have welcomed Ike the same way?
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:30 AM
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60. I was just telling a younger frend about that tonight.
Nixon got egged in Venezuela (I think) in 1958. It was unheardof. People should have been alerted about him from that.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:35 AM
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6. When Clinton visited the south island of New Zealand during his last year
by the time he left, New Zealanders figured he'd met with a quarter of the population, shaking their hands and remembering their names if they met again.

He and Chelsey received a standing ovation at the Antarctica Museum.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:06 AM
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7. please post the post the photos of the mobs lynching Dubya in S America
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:12 AM
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13. Here's him getting punched inthe face
Edited on Sat Mar-10-07 09:13 AM by SoCalDem


Click on the pic for many more pics of the protests.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:38 AM
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22. Looks like he's guessed what a Bush
Edited on Sat Mar-10-07 10:38 AM by seasonedblue
"goodwill" visit means:nuke:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:40 AM
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8. I almost forgot
what it's like to have a President who is loved, not hated. Clinton was so excellent as our frontman to the world. He could win us friends everywhere.

And then there's Little Boots....



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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:24 AM
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15. Hey, that picture could just as easily have been taken in the US.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:25 AM
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9. Bush and Cheney have made America an object of hate and scorn.
I will never forgive them for what they have done to my country. Never.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:22 AM
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10. Those Irish Pix of Clinton are great.
In 2004 25,000 Irish marched to with in 2 miles of * to protest
him being there ...... a reporter on Irish T.V. asked * he was honest
about the war in Iraq.

I read that went Clinton went back to Ireland a few years ago that
he walked the streets and was loved.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:26 AM
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53. an Irish friend of mine swears that his relatives put up a picture of Clinton ...
... in their living room -- right next to the picture of JFK!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:32 AM
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11. Say what one will
but the man is Elvis.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:23 AM
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14. That seems like eons ago
:(
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:25 AM
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16. Bush shames this country, as do his followers
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:33 AM
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17. Going back even farther...
Here's JFK in Berlin:

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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:29 AM
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19. Oh......thank you so much for that. I was 21 when he was killed. Still hurts so much.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:41 AM
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23. I was just a kid when Kennedy went to Berlin...
that picture is breathtaking. I still remember.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:45 AM
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26. What a GRAND photo!!!
:)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:07 AM
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18. And Clinton continues to represent the good face of the U.S.
with his humanitarian work.

After he leaves office, the Chimp intends to start a neocon "think tank" to retool his shattered legacy.

Amazing how the world agrees in their horror at his policies....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:31 AM
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20. I expected pictures of Al Gore with all the AIT crowds. nt
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:14 AM
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24. And Clinton is still beloved
and can walk freely amongst the people, and gather crowds, around the world.

Bush will never, EVER be able to do that in his life. We have lost so much because of one man and the people he chose to run this country. * and Darth Cheney will have to hide from people the rest of their lives, even if they do finish their terms without criminal charges or impeachment.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:00 PM
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28. Don't forget
They will have to avoid certain countries lest they be locked up as war criminals!
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:26 PM
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44. I think they'll have to avoid just about every country
they are hated everywhere, as far as I can tell. Then there is that little matter of the war crimes in a few countries, but either way, I don't think they'll be doing a whole lot of traveling - Cheney is used to hiding, but I think it may be a shock to *, since he's so delusional, he probably thinks people love him.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:05 PM
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30. Bush will never be able to set foot in public *anywhere*.
He and his entourage will live in fear of his being violently attacked or assassinated wherever he happens to be on this planet. Not even Nixon was so universally reviled.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:23 PM
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42. Indeed, and he has earned it, many times over
I wonder if he's even aware of this, or if he's so protected that he thinks people like him, until he gets somewhere and can't ignore the protesters in front of him.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:00 PM
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48. I don't know the answer to that question. n/t
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:21 AM
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25. I in high school and college during the Clinton years.
I had such hope. Then I went into the "real world" and got little boots as a "pResident."

What an eye-opener.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:03 PM
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29. I've been in HS and college under Bush
Whad'ya think about that :(
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:08 PM
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31. Wow.
:scared:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:11 PM
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45. Same here
It really sucks. :( I entered high school in 2000 and will graduate from college in 2008, so my educational chronology lines up almost perfectly with this hellish administration. x( I will never understand how on earth Bush got "re-elected" in 2004, and I wake up pretty much every day wishing that he hadn't. I wasn't a huge fan of John Kerry, but I do think he would've done a much better job than Bush...and if Kerry had been elected President, maybe most of the world's people wouldn't utterly despise us, and maybe terrorism wouldn't be on the rise globally, and maybe our economy wouldn't be totally fucked...and almost certainly thousands of our soldiers and Marines would still be alive, including a friend of mine who never lived to see his 20th birthday because of fucktard's ego (I know that sounds selfish, but his story is representative of so many others - all who have been lost were somebody's child, somebody's friend, somebody's future...). :cry:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:29 PM
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50. I'm sorry to hear about your friend
I've had two friends deploy for a total of three tours and one more coming up.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:14 PM
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51. Thanks
I hope your friends will be okay. :hug: I have a few other friends, acquaintances, and relatives in the military, but he was probably one of the ones I was closest to. I hope they all come home safely...and soon. :grouphug: Peace.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:46 AM
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27. All those smiling, hopeful faces.
Seems half a lifetime ago . . . :(
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:12 PM
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32. Notwithstanding this specific thread (so far ...)
Clinton could NOT walk down Main Street DU without some of the more angry members tossing some metaphorical poo onto his entourage ...

I adored the man ... It's too bad he gets the same response here (at times) that Bush get's in South America ....

Nevertheless ... It is a stark contrast that exists in world opinion to these two men, and two parties ....

Anyone who claims there is NO difference between the Democratic party and the GOP is obviously too jaded to see the differences ...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:39 PM
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33. K&R
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stonebone Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:09 PM
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34. kick
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:20 PM
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35. And to think that such a mean dullard
as bush got elected to take his place. TWICE!!

I can only shake my head.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:00 PM
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40. He hasn't been elected yet.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:23 PM
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43. Ahh, you got me there!
So true, so very true.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:27 PM
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52. I know. People always ask how he was elected. And, in fact, he wasn't. We don't even know what the
real margins were. Maybe it wasn't even close...
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:23 AM
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58. Think of this: GWB will NEVER, now, be elected President!!
But Bill Clinton was twice, Gore once, and hopefully twice more!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:10 PM
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65. true.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:31 PM
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36. when they have to dodge the flying produce at the
inauguration, you know something is fucked. i think we should legislate limits on SS protection. if you cannot walk among your people, you are not their leader. period. "vote counts" be damned.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:03 PM
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37. Oh, that this was not only a pleasant fantasy.
:mad: :grr: :cry:
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:32 PM
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38. One of my favorite pictures of President Clinton...


More than 200,000 gathered in sweltering heat to cheer Clinton in Accra, Ghana. His official appearances in Africa sparked great enthusiasm among local people

http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/photo/clintonlookback/11.html
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:03 PM
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41. That's one of my favorite Bill Clinton photos too
Damn, those days seem so long ago and faraway. Breaks my heart.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:59 PM
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39. 80,000 people listen to President Kerry and The Boss in Madison.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:20 PM
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46. "Roll up your maps; put away your photographs. The word of a President of the US is enough for me."
General de Gaulle to Dean Acheson on the Cuban Missile Crisis.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/donald_macintyre/article216648.ece
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 03:50 AM
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56. That is so sad. I never heard that.
We have lost SO much these past 6 years. I fear it's going to take much longer to get that kind of trust back again.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:52 PM
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47. Excellent thread! Thanks everybody ;)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:20 PM
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49. Not so long ago, but in another world ... it wasn't pre 9/11, it was pre 11/7/2000.
Edited on Sat Mar-10-07 10:20 PM by eppur_se_muova
Thanks for posting those great pics, and reminding us of what we need to get back to.
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:45 AM
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54. Forgive me, I'd forgotten
I thought we were always despised and hated throughout the world.

Oh how things would have been different if Al Gore had rightfully been installed as the 43rd President of the USA.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 05:20 AM
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62. I can clearly see the WTC's twin towers still up there.
And a tiny few co-conspirators locked up behind bars...

LONG before the fifty-second official warning!

6,500 + tens of thousands Iraqis still alive. They did not have to die. They would not be dead with President Al leading the country.

And "new" levees in New Orleans would have been ready to withstand Katrina just in time. Fifteen hundred+ still alive. They did not have to die. They would not be dead with President Al at the wheel.


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:47 AM
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55. Yeah, imagine that!
That's my dawg! :)
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:20 AM
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57. Wow, I guess we tend to forget. Not so very long ago, our president was loved,
he was America, we were America....the good guys.

I hope I live long enough to see this happen again. People across the world, loving and trusting our President and leaders.
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:25 AM
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59. 2001 with President Gore: who can say what might have been? n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 04:47 AM
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61. What i hate the Most
is the Bullshit SPIN the media puts on these events, like Bush wasn't going to that City anyway, etc..

Then there's the GO HOME GRINGO, crap.. all the signs I saw said "BUSH"

They want BUSH TO LEAVE, not americans, of course the press has to drag all of US DOWN in this exchange and make it appear that AMERICANS are the ones they don't want there, Horseshit.. Every person I've ever met from another country didn't blame ME for my 'leader' or 'govt' intrusions on their liberties, and I didn't blame THEM personally for their Rotten Politicians..

Unfortunately NOW we've got a CREATURE who's taken us for a ride in the woods, got us out of the car to have a look at something Cool, then Took a baseball bat to a Hornet's Nest and RAN back to the car, where they locked the DOORS on us, and Laugh at us through the car window as they drive off, while WE get STUNG to death - BUSH.. THanks to him, any of us could have our heads CHOPPED off unless we claim to be Canadian or something while travelling.

Hey Media, it's "GET OUT BUSH" or "BUSH IS A MURDERER!" NOT "Go Home Yankee Dogs.."

Do they think we're retarded? WE SEE THE PHOTOS and ALL the signs SAY 'BUSH' on them, and you don't have to speak their Language to FIGURE THAT OUT :)
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 06:26 AM
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63. Clinton also faced protests when he visited abroad...
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 06:29 AM by arcos
And I'm not even comparing them, obvisouly Clinton is a statesman, intelligent and a good person.

But American imperialism did not start with George W. Bush and it will not end with him either... Clinton also faced protests in nearly every trip he took abroad, and we're not talking about anti-Americanism either: Clinton fully supported "free trade" and other "free market" policies that are not really popular around the world.




http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2000/03/22/clinton000322.html
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9911/19/clinton.greece/index.html



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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 07:19 AM
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64. Wow - I forgot the fireworks. Will that ever happen again?? nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:24 PM
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66. the coward from Crawford could care less about the world--Def K shareholds on the other hand
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 12:54 PM
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67. 1963
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