What IS all of this about "crazed" lefties planning to deface Vietnam Memorial?

[AnnInLa]

Have been trolling the RW sites, as I am used to doing, and everyone is talking about going to DC to protect the Vietnam War Memorial from Lefties who are going there to throw paint on the memorial or somehow deface it. They are going to make a wall of protection. Is this all in their pointy heads, like the war on christmas, or are there nefarious plans to attack the Vietnam Memorial? I think I know the answer, but what the hell is going on, really?

[annabanana]

1. I have read voices on BOTH sides revving up to "protect" the

memorial. I'm guessing they're all being sent out by some operative with a camera all set up and ready to go.

[Ian David]

2. It's all in their heads. I think they're trying to instigate a violent confrontation. n/t

[gatorboy]

3. Sounds like the left needs to keep an eye out for some right wing nut jobs.

That feel the need to do it themselves and blame it on the left. THey've been known to pull that type of crap in the past.

[Nikki Stone1]

6. Yeah. Our demonstrators need to be VERY careful.

The crazies are being stirred up and some agent provocateur will spark a confrontation.

[Robbien]

4. There is a thread on this

by Monkeyman

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x378743

[muntrv]

5. The reich wingers are the ones defacing American soldiers with Walter Reed,

not sending body armor.

[bahrbearian]

7. There is only One Person that could deface the Vietnam Memorial.

[TahitiNut]

11. This one's far more appropriate, imho ...

[bahrbearian]

22. Your right ,that is better,, took me a while to figure it out.

[Puregonzo1188]

8. It has to do with the March on the Pentagon, the Freepers

can't get more then 15 people to show up to their prowar counter-demonstrations anymore, so they're trying something new. Using lies to manipulate people's emotions.

Ok, its not that new for them.

[shain from kane]

9. Has construction begun on the Gulf Wars Memorial?

Since the namss on the Vietnam Memorial are roughly in the chronological order of deaths, there can be a head start on the Gulf Wars Memorial, in the same fashion and design. I believe that it could provide a meaningful comment to the quagmire in Iraq.
There is a mobile Vietnam Memorial that tours the country. I would suggest starting one for the Gulf Wars, and testing the people's reactions.

[Phredicles]

10. Righties tend to spin paranoid fantasies so they can feel aggrieved;

for all their accusations of minorities "whining" about "oppression", no group in the US today spends more time whining about their hard lot than the right. And because in reality that's such patent bullshit, they make up stuff like this so they can go on feeling oppressed. It's pretty damn dangerous for the rest of us, really.

[formercia]

12. Old NAZI trick

Burn down the Reichstag and blame it on the Commies.

[PassingFair]

13. Parlockian!

I HATE these people.

[formercia]

16. Burning the Reichstag

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm

The deep red glow of the burning Reichstag caught the eye of President Hindenburg and Vice-Chancellor Papen who were dining at a club facing the building. Papen put the elderly Hindenburg in his own car and took him to the scene.

Hitler was at Goebbels' apartment having dinner. They rushed to the scene where they met Göring who was already screaming false charges and making threats against the Communists.

At first glance, Hitler described the fire as a beacon from heaven.

"You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in German history...This fire is the beginning," Hitler told a news reporter at the scene.

[niyad]

14. one of my little trolls has been frothing about this for over a month now--and screaming that HIS

group is going to be out in force to "protect the WALL"

something called "gathering of eagles" (I refuse to even click on their website--the little idiot thinks that the number of "hits" is equal to the number of people who are going to be there)

they are, indeed, looking for a confrontation. also made some remark about "rolling thunder" being there to confront jane fonda.

these people are truly scary idiots. this particular idiot claims to be a vet--and I have asked him repeatedly WHY he has not uttered one word about the horror at walter reed. nothing but silence.

[Uncle Joe]

15. It's another form of their War On Christmas and now

War on Easter B.S. They inflate these straw men lies to incite their kool-aide drinkers and take the focus off of their own dereliction of duty to taking care of our troops.

[Burma Jones]

17. It's keeping the "spitting on Veterans" from 35 years ago meme alive

You know, I keep 200 Pounds of raw sewage in my back yard to keep Tigers and Alligators away. My neighbors think I'm nuts, but I don't see any fucking Tigers or Alligators, do YOU?????

[AnnInLa]

18. So, when no Lefties show up to deface the memorial,

the rw can claim their "protection" scared us away, & they declare victory and go home? Neat trick. Idiots. Don't their sheeple ever get tired of being manipulated?

[FogerRox]

19. Total BS

Someone started a story that Cindy would be there to deface the memorial. All the Vietnam Vets I know are going to support Cindy, and the peace movement.

[dkofos]

20. Another urban myth promoted by the war mongers to try to muster

support for their pro war rally.

[treestar]

21. Another rightie attempt to play the victim

They are forever using "the troops" that way.

[Toucano]

23. Speaking as a crazed lefty, I love that memorial and wouldn't think of defacing it.

I think most of us do. It's a perfect tribute to right-wing failure.

[mitchum]

24. Right wing comfort girl Michele Malkin trots out that call to arms in her latest column

[bananarepublican]

25. This will be just another right wing 'false flag' operation! They'll use it...

... to ammend the Patriot Act to label liberals 'enemy combatants'.

[rasputin1952]

26. I have never been to the VN Mem, but it is my plans this Summer if

all goes anywhere near what I'm planning for My son and I's Eastern Sojourn.

For all of the years the memorial hs been there, I have never heard of anyone defacing it, (it might have happened, but I sure would not want to be the perpetrator! Besides, I've never heard of it happening, or I would have read of the beating that would have followed.

National Geographic some years back did a story on The Wall, and they spoke of how it was "cleaned up" every evening from the items left there; medals, flowers, unit patches, boots, clothing items...all left with reverence and respect. Americans take these monuments and place them close to their hearts, it is a part of the very soul of this nation.

The only group I could picture doing something to deface this monument are those who would not understand just what the sacrifice that was made by these brave men and women, true heroes all, because they had never contemplated sacrificing anything themselves.

It is difficult to explain the brotherhood the military brings about. Each and every soldier fights not for Mom, apple pie of the girl nest door, they fight for their brothers and sisters in the hope they will be home soon...they fight for each other, sometimes in a noble cause, sometimes because the situation is a bit more blurred,but they fight for each other in the hope that they might never have to fight again.

:patriot:

[GreenZoneLT]

29. It's been defaced in the past.

Can't remember if they ever figured out who did it, but there were deep scratches in the stone wall that has the names engraved. Happened in the '80s, IIRC. Probably some nutjob who was offended at Maya Lin's "ditch of failure" design. There was a big rightwing stink about it when it was built.

There's a conventional statue next to the Wall, because Ross Perot was on the memorial committee and pitched a fit about the design, so they put the statue (a multi-ethnic group of American soldier-heroes) beside and above the Wall, which is set into the ground.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/vive/memorial/servicemen.htm

[rasputin1952]

30. I was not aware that it had been defaced, and I'm glad I had not

heard of it at the time, although I am saddened to hear of it now. there are many wounds yet to be healed from that time, and in some ways, some Americans are no better than others who hold grudges from generation past. Just a moment ago on C-SPAN, someone was blaming "those dam Yanlees" for the plight of the South going back to the CW. Makes me wonder if there are any Tories left over from the Revolution who passed on the notion that being under English would have been a good thing...:eyes:

Thanks for the info...:)

[Swamp Rat]

27. Sounds like they are planning a 'Mayberry Reichtag' or sumthin'

:eyes:

[Raine]

28. WHY would any leftie deface VWM???

:shrug: It's a perfect symbol of the waste and futility of war. I've been to the smaller traveling replica and seeing all those names of the dead (some that I knew and went to school with) literally brought me to tears from the sadness of it. :cry:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

31. WARNING: Be on the lookout for provocateurs

It would be entirely in character for two or three right wing types to don black clothing and masks (so that the MSM will describe them as "anarchists" and "leftist extremists") and toss paint at the Vietnam War Memorial.

Any major gathering of leftist activists is in danger of having its headlines stolen by provocateurs. I am still convinced that the half dozen black-cloaked goons who smashed the windows of downtown businesses during the Seattle WTO meeting in 1999, while 15,000 people of every description marched peacefully just a couple of blocks away, were provocateurs.

I've seen them in every planning session for a leftist event, the types who try to convince others that they should smash windows, throw rocks at the police, or something else that is pointless and will get them arrested and discredited.

In this case, the fact that the righties are all convinced that there will be a confrontation means that the marchers will have to be vigilant and stop anyone who tries to do anything destructive.

[EFerrari]

32. The spray paint after the last DC march is suspicious because

we didn't march anywhere near where the paint showed up.

[bluedog]

34. 'Gathering of Eagles' to protect Vietnam Veterans Wall

"The anti-war/anti-America group cannot be allowed to use the Vietnam Memorial Wall as a back-drop to their anti-America venom and stain the hallowed ground that virtually cries out with blood at the thought of this proposed desecration ... it must not happen," said veteran Bud Gross. "… All Americans are invited to support our effort, which is intended as a defender of hallowed ground and intended as a non-violent competition between those that would sell out America and those of us who support freedom and keeping the fight with the enemy on distant shores."

The group defending the Wall will be wearing armbands to identify themselves. Those who are unable to stand with the defenders are being asked to wear armbands with small U.S. flags to show their own communities that they abhor the Fonda-Sheehan tactics.


We'll be there to act as a countervailing force against the Cindy Sheehan-Jane Fonda march from the Vietnam Memorial to the Pentagon," retired Navy Capt. Larry Bailey said. "We will protect the Vietnam Memorial. If they try to deface it, there will be some violence, I guarantee you."

from the free puke site

[ohio2007]

33. I saw this link about the St. Patrick's Day Gathering of Eagles

http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/
Sounds like they want to set up some sort of perimeter around the memorial.Probably to keep banners etc. from being draped over the monument.
We will know for sure in six days

[Puregonzo1188]

35. These people are nuts.

From their website

Those groups who are planning operations at the Memorials independent of the Gathering of Eagles security teams, please check in with us before deploying your forces. There is an overall security plan which your group will need to fit into. No reason not to keep your folks together, but your activities need to be coordinated with those of other groups and individuals. Also, we will need to pass along to you the expectations and requirements of the National Park Service. Please send contact information for your group leader to OWB at gatheringofeagles dot org for coordination.

Why don't they engage in some "operations" and "deploy their forces" in Iraq.