Are we at the tipping point? We read many posts

[nadinbrzezinski]

on this...

No folks we are not

The people haven't had enough.

Ok Casandra explain yourself... well been talking about this with my brother in law and we have been dissecting this. And after hours upon hours of thought experiments we both concluded that the American people are getting exactly what they have been trained to expect

Think about it.

For the last thirty or so years (aka since Reagan) the people have been consistently told, government does not work... government is wasteful, and you cannot expect a tinker damn from government. Then we have a Katrina... yep people were horrified, but... they were not surprised.

But, but... look at your lying eyes...there has been hardly a peep of surprise, since the government acted exactly as we have been trained to expect, waste, abuse and overall inefficiencies

Walter Reed...same story.

Now lets look back at US History, because we have been here before. Ironically a large flood was part of it (1927 Mississippi flood)... and a man who later became President only to lead the country into the Great Depresion...folks the attitudes were not different back then and the Republicans dominated the arms of the government for a generation

What did it take for the people to get some measure of trust back from the very effectived propaganda training given to the people by bthose GOP private sector, trickle down economics fans? Three words: The Great Depression

So every time the question is asked I have an answer for you... no, the people haven't had enough, since the government is acting just as they have been trained by the bloviating right to expect government to act. I fear it will take another FDR and another Great Depression to break this spell...and this time I don't know if the country will survive it.

(edited for clarity)

[Selatius]

1. I'm not sure the country would be able to survive another Great Depression without dissolving.

The country would've likely fallen to despotism if FDR was not the right person, at the right time, in the right place. Some speculated the US would've fallen to fascism and aligned itself with Hitler. Others speculated it would've fallen to communism, since they were claiming the workers could be saved from a capitalist system that left almost a third of America unemployed. I generally am ambivalent about the communists taking the US, but I am more convinced a pro-Hitler government could've taken over if FDR was removed, and there were people back then who plotted to render FDR a puppet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Oh I agree

I don't believe the country will survive it.

But as Fascism is concerned, we already live under a neo fascist system where a war is ongoing against the middle class...

I expect a hot civil war to break up, and FDR prevented the same back in the 1930s, he basially saved the country from itself...

For our sake I hope we have a man or woman with his kind of foresight, but alas history never quite repeats itself

[billybob537]

3. I believe the country will survive

But it's gonna require some real heartless bastards to do what needs to be done.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. We have bastards in charge actually

and that is the problem

[Ms. Clio]

5. very interesting

especially because the economic parallels are especially ominous in terms of concentration of wealth. And it actually took World War 2 to pull the country completely out of the Great Depression.