Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NYT Calls For DISMISSAL OF Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:38 AM
Original message
NYT Calls For DISMISSAL OF Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Editorial
The Failed Attorney General

Published: March 11, 2007
During the hearing on his nomination as attorney general, Alberto Gonzales said he understood the difference between the job he held — President Bush’s in-house lawyer — and the job he wanted, which was to represent all Americans as their chief law enforcement officer and a key defender of the Constitution. Two years later, it is obvious Mr. Gonzales does not have a clue about the difference.

He has never stopped being consigliere to Mr. Bush’s imperial presidency. If anyone, outside Mr. Bush’s rapidly shrinking circle of enablers, still had doubts about that, the events of last week should have erased them.

.........................

We opposed Mr. Gonzales’s nomination as attorney general. His résumé was weak, centered around producing legal briefs for Mr. Bush that assured him that the law said what he wanted it to say. More than anyone in the administration, except perhaps Vice President Dick Cheney, Mr. Gonzales symbolizes Mr. Bush’s disdain for the separation of powers, civil liberties and the rule of law.

On Thursday, Senator Arlen Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, hinted very obliquely that perhaps Mr. Gonzales’s time was up. We’re not going to be oblique. Mr. Bush should dismiss Mr. Gonzales and finally appoint an attorney general who will use the job to enforce the law and defend the Constitution.

more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/opinion/11sun1.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. Chuck Schumer has just called for Gonzales' resignation also.
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 09:41 AM by Old Crusoe
Bob Schieffer asked Schumer if he thought Gonzales should step down.

I like the trendline on this one a lot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:42 AM
Response to Original message
2. Hold him as an illegal alien and let's see him try to get heard to defend himself against the claim.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. He could be held at Guantanamo for safe keeping and denied the
Edited on Sun Mar-11-07 09:48 AM by Old Crusoe
same access to justice his fellow detainees are denied under his own recommendations.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. That's the idea. Of course, we'd want to make sure he's not, ahem, tortured. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Yep. Perish the thought.
After all, the United States doesn't do torture.

The president said so!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Send the whole Cabal there.
Why stop at Alberto?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. I'd spare Harriet Miers. I think she's a candidate for leniency.
Besides, she's just recently got that gig as a lounge singer in a dive in El Paso.

You hate to interrupt good work.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #7
19. leniency for the Love-stricken. Now that is Compassion:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. Hi, rodeodance. Yep. I'm a sucker for a soft story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #7
20. Just thinking------Condi is is love with Bush also. What to do??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. A conundrum to be sure. Either Laura and/or Condi have to
kill themselves in an act of theatrical devotion, or Dubya has to become Mormon and make his move.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #7
24. You are more lenient than I .
I'd send anyone who has even had a beer with bush or his gang that can't shoot straight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. Ordinarily I would, too, sellitman, but we need to keep somebody back to
spill the beans on what exactly happened in the White House these last six horrifying years.

It might as well be Harriet Miers. We'll tell her it was her beloved boss' final wish.

(Yes, I'm joshin'. I have no attachment to Harriet Miers & wouldn't want any. Off she goes to Gitmo.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. If the Constitution defines our Nation, (and it DOES) then he's clearly an enemy combatant.
If the Constitution defines our Government, (and it DOES), then
he not only "advocates its overthrow", he's actively participating
in a fairly successful attempt to overthrow it. I believe TREASON
is the word for that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Hi, dicksteele. I don't know how things will shake out with Abu Gonzales
but he's appalling on such a high number of levels that I just don't try any more to find an objective response to him.

He's a legal timebomb for himself and the Bush administration, and I believe he's a psychological mess besides.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
10. Dems who voted FOR Gonzales
Landrieu
Lieberman (he was a Dem then)
Nelson
Nelson
Pryor
Salazar

Not voting Baucus, Conrad, Inouye, Burns(R)

Most Dems and Jeffords(I) had the good sense to vote against.


02/03/2005

Statement by John Kerry on the Nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General


"I will vote against the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General. As Counsel to the President he committed grave errors in formulating the administration's detention and interrogation policies which have put American troops in greater danger. American presidents for decades have believed in the Geneva Conventions because they protect American troops captured by the enemy. It's a mistake to choose as our nation's chief law enforcement officer someone who called these protections 'quaint' and opened a Pandora's Box that has tarred America's image in the world and placed our troops at even greater risk.
"Some of America's most distinguished retired military officers share my concerns. General John Shalikashvili, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; General Joseph Hoar, former Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Central Command; and Lt. General Claudia J. Kennedy, the former deputy Chief of Staff for Army Intelligence, wrote that 'it is clear that these operations have fostered greater animosity toward the United States, undermined our intelligence gathering efforts, and added to the risks facing our troops serving around the world.'

"Judge Gonzales' confirmation hearings were a golden opportunity to reassure the country that as Attorney General he would uphold and enforce laws which for decades have protected our troops and advanced America's interests in foreign policy. Instead he gave evasive answers which raise doubts about his commitment to the rule of law and reflect an unwillingness to exercise independent legal judgment on critical issues.

"It is for these reasons that I will oppose the nomination of Judge Gonzales to serve in that post."
http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/cfm/record.cfm?id=231562


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #10
21. I am not surprized to see Landrieu on this list---she is an odd duck so often.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:09 AM
Response to Original message
11. WoW! The NYT does not mince any words in this editorial. It also
has a few cuts on the Stump himself. I hope the whole cabal of lawbreakers are cringing in a corner. I can just picture the WH staff hiding in anterooms this morning with the "moran" railing and cursing up a storm.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I like your film clip of Dubya railing through the White House, MasonJar.
He might just decide to stay in South America if the news keeps up the way it has.

He's being trashed directly and indirectly on the morning news shows when I'm guessing he thought he'd enjoy a bump from his heroic ethanol deal with Brazil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. being an ole has been drunk I can understand his wanting the ethanol deal
and yes I too enjoyed the visual of the 'little one'* running through the halls of the Whitehouse ranting and raving

I mean no disrespect to a person who drinks, only to myself and bush*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:13 AM
Response to Original message
13. Assign him "enemy combatant" status for his callous disregard
in upholding the constitution.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:13 AM
Response to Original message
14. YES, then impeach bush*, gonzales is only doing the presdents bidding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:57 AM
Response to Original message
16. Now that he's getting more scrutiny
More and more will see how incompetent he is at his job. More abuses of the constitution will be found since Gonzales doesn't really believe in it anyway. He's just a party hack. Then the bushies will see him as a distraction to their goals and they'll dump him. He'll be allowed to resign to spend more time with his family of course.

Sonia
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:13 AM
Response to Original message
17. and her is another Du thread on this Editorial:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
18. "Mr. Bush should dismiss Mr. Gonzales"
And I thought the New York Times didn't have a comics section! :rofl:

Why would Mr. Bush dismiss Mr. Gonzales, who is doing his job to Mr. Bush's complete and total satisfaction? And when Mr. Bush completely ignores the Times, Sen. Hagel, Sen. Specter, Sen. Schumer, and the rising tide and chorus of voices looking to restore some semblance of the American system, what then, New York Times? What then?

Because otherwise, you're wasting your voice and just setting ink to hear yourself talk. Are you prepared to take the next step when the Bush administration ignores you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-11-07 10:54 PM
Response to Original message
25. I wish we had John Mitchell back
30 years ago I never thought I'd say that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:45 AM
Response to Original message
27. This is no time to be oblique - indict him!!
He obviously hasn't held up the laws of the Constitution.

Indict, convict, impeach!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:50 AM
Response to Original message
28. we'll know when Gonzales is heading out the door
when during a press conference bush says "Attorney Gonzales is doing a FABULOUS job."

so far the only support statements are through white house press secretary office saying that bush has confidence in Gonzales
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:08 AM
Response to Original message
29. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:59 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC