Dr. David Kelly / The Hutton Inquiry

[Error]

Why is the so far off the radar at this point?

Isn't the inevitable conclusion obvious enough at this point?

"The Hutton Inquiry, a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding his death, ruled that he had committed suicide, and that Kelly had not said some of the quotes attributed to him by Gilligan. "

That does not ring true any more.

Isn't this their Valerie Plame case?

[malaise]

1. Yes it is

Truth will out.

[TroglodyteScholar]

2. The very day Kelly died I knew it was a HUGE story...

...but the Brits are pretty good at sweeping these things under the rug too.

[seemslikeadream]

3. ask Judy

[biscotti]

4. As I recall, Blair

was in Japan speaking at a function. There was a press conference after, Blair was told the news of the death of David Kelly. Blair almost fainted at the podium.
The Dr David Kelly to Judy Miller emails (I am surrounded by dark characters)are another part of the puzzle.

[ljm2002]

6. I remember that too...

...he paled visibly when asked about Dr. Kelly's death. I remember it vividly because it was like watching someone take off their mask for a moment.

Unfortunately we do not know the reality behind that moment: did Mr. Blair order the assassination? did he know of the order? or had he just heard rumors that something like that might happen, hence his distress when it came to pass? or did this help to keep Blair himself on the straight and narrow path of Bush poodle-dom? did he fear for his own or his family's safety? I guess we'll never know.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. He was told while on the plane flying to Japan

Tony Blair was on a plane bound for Tokyo when he learned of Dr Kelly's death.

Hours earlier - while the scientist's body lay undiscovered - the prime minister was enjoying what should have been one of the crowning moments of his career, addressing both houses of the US Congress.

A visibly shaken Mr Blair agreed virtually on the spot to hold an inquiry "into the circumstances surrounding Dr Kelly's death".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3901183.stm

The OP isn't quite correct that this disappeared in Britain - it resurfaced briefly after a BBC programme a couple of weeks ago, examining the claims that Kelly was murdered. In my view, the reasons for believing he was murdered aren't that strong, and suicide as an explanation of what happened makes sense. The inquiry could have been more thorough in the actual pathology of his death; I get the impression that Hutton wanted to hurry on to deciding if the BBC had behaved improperly. On this, he gave the government all the benefit of the doubt, and the BBC none - so his conclusion was one-sided. Gilligan did make one or two errors in the way he reported it, which he actually acknowleged - he had said the government knew the 45 minute claim was wrong, while strictly it just didn't have proper evidence for it (just the word of one informant who some already regarded as unreliable, and who proved later to be a complete fantasist). The government ought to have known the 45 minute claim was wrong. But the rest of Gilligan's reporting really looked vindicated by the evidence - and Hutton made a fool of himself, by not knowing, for instance, what people mean by "sexing up" (which was part of Gilligan's reporting most strongly objected to).

The end result has been that the BBC has been slightly more cautious in its reporting - which is what Alistair Campbell wanted to achieve. Most people thought the BBC had been vindicated, however. Whether this means the government has since got away with something it wouldn't have otherwise, I can't tell. It might be argued that if the BBC had felt able to report more fearlessly on how the 'facts had been built around the policy', Blair might not have been re-elected in 2005 - but it's almost impossible to tell.

[Stargazer99]

8. I beg to differ with your assessment that it wasn'tmurder

Anyone who has been around sucidial people knows they don't make plans into the future unless the plans reflect their absence on this planet. I've been around many sucidial people and have gone to that point myself...this British scientist E-mailed a compatriot that he would "meet him in Iraq at the end of the week" days before the Iraqi meeting would have occurred. THIS FOLKS IS NOT A SUCIDE TALKING! Wake up!

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. And yet a professor of psychiatry does think he was suicidal

as does his wife: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6378681.stm#5

[biscotti]

10. I agree

Who commits suicide by cutting one wrist (his left)? As I understand the cut was not a fatal cut because of the nature of how it was done.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. From the BBC link above

The Conspiracy Files interviewed Professor Robert Forrest, Britain's foremost forensic toxicologist who is also the President of the Forensic Science Society. He said: "The concentrations in Dr Kelly's blood are on the low side.

"We normally see higher concentrations than that in a person who has died of an overdose of co-proxamol. But if you've got heart disease - and if there is something else going on like blood loss, then all three of those are going to act together. The overdose of co-proxamol, the heart disease and the blood loss."

And Professor Forrest concluded: "I've got no doubt that the cause of Dr Kelly's death was a combination of blood loss, heart disease and overdose of co-proxamol.

"Not necessarily in that order. If I was going to put it in order I'd put the overdose of co-proxamol first. But it's important that all of them had interacted to lead to the death".

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. Human being repeatedly become incapable of thinking of huge crimes.

Think Holocaust. Think Darfur and Somalia. Think the theft of our elections in 00 and 04. It is impressive that we think so highly of our common man, and our leaders - but the truth is that incomprehensively awful things happen, orchestrated by those who truly feel they are above the law - or are deranged, insane, batshit crazy. It is happening all over, again. Your post is simply another example.

[Peace Patriot]

11. I am pretty convinced that, a) Kelly was murdered, and b) there is a connection to

the Plame and Brewster-Jennings outings.

July 6, 2003: Wilson publishes his article (debunking the Niger/Iraq nuke connection). July 7: Tony Blair informed that Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things" (COULD say, not had said--Kelly had been whistleblowing since late May) (Hutton Report).

July 14, 2003: Plame outed (by Novak).

July 18, 2003: Kelly found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances; his office and computers are searched.

July 22, 2003: Novak ADDITIONALLY outs the entire Brewster-Jennings WMD counter-proliferation network, putting all of its deep cover agents/contacts at risk of getting killed and disabling all projects.

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I think the link may be a Bush Junta (Rumsfeld-OSP) plot to actually plant WMDs in Iraq, to be "found" by the US soldiers who were "hunting" for them after the invasion (notably accompanied by WMD propagandist Judith Miller). The Junta had long been planning to destroy the CIA by, a) using the crude (easily detectable) Niger/Iraq nuke forgeries to entice the CIA into a public "no nukes in Iraq" position, and b) then "finding" the planted nukes in Iraq (discrediting the CIA forever, and cementing Bush/Blair's political position, with a justification for the war). But someone foiled their plan. (Note: This was the BJ network's job--to detect and foil illicit movement of dangerous weapons.) They became enraged about the foiling of their nefarious scheme, and panic-stricken when they got word from Blair that Kelly knew about it (July 7). They called six reporters in one week (July 7-14), putting many top Bushites at great risk of treason charges, to find a patsy reporter to out Plame (and to spread the cover story that "everybody knew"); they ordered Kelly's death (already "off the reservation"--whistleblowing--couldn't be trusted), searched his offices, perhaps found evidence of a BJ connection to the foiling of their scheme, and took a shotgun approach to the network--outed everybody (by publishing the company's name in the newspaper, to make sure that the bad guys in foreign governments could connect the dots between Plame/BJ and our deep cover agents/contacts). This action was so rash--a frontal assault on the CIA--that it is inexplicable unless they were panicked.

Kelly--a top British scientist, WMD expert and UN weapons inspector--started whistleblowing to the BBC, anonymously, about the 'sexed up" prewar WMD intel on May 22. He was mysteriously outed to his bosses in late June (just after one of Libby/Miller's clandestine meetings about Wilson/Plame--Miller has adamantly protected the OTHER parts of these conversations). He was interrogated at a "safe house" and threatened with the Official Secrets Act in the first week of July, and forced to partially recant before a Parliamentary committee. In the course of his interrogation he said, "I'm not going to reveal any government secrets." He had also told a friend that he had promised his friends in Iraq that if they cooperated with the UN inspectors there would be no invasion, and further said, apparently joking, that, if the US/UK did invade, he "would probably be found dead in the woods."

The Blairites then outed Kelly to the press, and sent him home without protection, and apparently without surveillance. The official story is that he went for a walk near his home, sat down under a tree, slit one wrist (minor artery) and bled to death all night out in the rain. (Surely he was under surveillance--where were they as he bled to death all night?). Kelly was a highly reputed scientist, an expert on bioweapons. This is a highly improbable method of death for him. Paramedics reported not enough blood at the scene, and the body was moved. I'm about 99% sure that it wasn't suicide, but, whether he was slain, or driven to suicide by threats (possibly to his family) (--his daughter was getting married in the fall, an event he was looking forward to, according to his emails), the fact remains that this OTHER whistleblower, across the Atlantic, was removed as a potential threat to the Bush/Blair regimes, four days after Plame was outed and disabled--and the destruction of the BJ network occurred four days after Kelly's offices were entered and searched by British authorities. And that is just too much coincidence to be ignored.

Kelly's revelations and the hunt for him within government were causing an uproar in England at the SAME TIME that Wilson was causing an uproar here, and his interrogation was occurring during the same couple of weeks in which Bushites were conspiring to out Plame/B-J. Our war profiteering corporate news monopolies, of course, never connected these events. Same time period. Same issue. Same kind of threat to the Bush/Blair governments. And a near simultaneous trigger date (July 6-7) for the flurry of panicky activity in the White House to get Plame/BJ outed and disabled, and for Blair concern about what Kelly "could say." Yes, all of this could have been motivated by fear of losing control of the newsstream on Saddam WMDs. But the flurry of panicky activity points to a more specific fear than mere dissent on the WMD story. Mere dissent can be drowned in the corporate news monopoly river of forgetfulness. Exposure of a plot to plant the evidence on Saddam, however, would prompt criminal proceedings, and would likely have brought down both governments. The Bushites' and Blairites' behavior during July 2003 points much more at specific fear of exposure and prosecution, than at fear of a newspaper op-ed or a BBC report on "sexed up" prewar intel.

The above is merely a theory of the Plame and Kelly events, and their possible connection. But it's a pretty good theory, that holds up well as new facts come out, and helps explain a lot of mysteries in both events (for instance, why didn't they fix the Niger forgeries--change the obvious wrong dates and names, and make them less easy to detect?, why was it so important that Bush assert this bogus claim in his SOTU (they could have fudged it just a bit, knowing how bogus it was)?, and why did Kelly start whistleblowing in May '03, after the invasion (he had supported Saddam's removal)? (--planting evidence on Saddam crossed his ethical line?). It's a good theory to keep handy, as the Plame/BJ and other Bushite scandals are further investigated, and I hope somebody with investigative resources is on it. (Something I fear may have happened is that Kelly may have been alerted to the plot by friends in Iraq, who were then tortured and disappeared in Abu Ghraib. That, too, would have deeply bothered Kelly. I'm also interested in why Rumsfeld was removed, with no change of policy on Iraq. The only change we've got wind of is that Gates is dismantling Rumsfeld black ops.)

[Greeby]

12. A Liberal Democrat MP stepped down from the shadow cabinet to investigate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Baker

"He announced on 19 May 2006 that his decision to step down from the shadow cabinet was based on his decision to pursue a quest to establish the truth behind the death of Dr David Kelly. Recently he claimed that evidence showing David Kelly's death was not a suicide had been wiped from his hard drive."