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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:14 AM
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Salon: The Army Is Ordering Injured Troops To go To Iraq
http://www.salon.com/news/2007/03/11/fort_benning/

The Army is ordering injured troops to go to Iraq

At Fort Benning, soldiers who were classified as medically unfit to fight are now being sent to war. Is this an isolated incident or a trend?

By Mark Benjamin

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Eight soldiers who were at the Feb. 15 meeting say they were summoned to the troop medical clinic at 6:30 in the morning and lined up to meet with division surgeon Lt. Col. George Appenzeller, who had arrived from Fort Stewart, Ga., and Capt. Aaron K. Starbuck, brigade surgeon at Fort Benning. The soldiers described having a cursory discussion of their profiles, with no physical exam or extensive review of medical files. They say Appenzeller and Starbuck seemed focused on downplaying their physical problems. "This guy was changing people's profiles left and right," said a captain who injured his back during his last tour in Iraq and was ordered to Iraq after the Feb. 15 review.

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In direct contradiction to the account given by the soldiers, Appenzeller said physical examinations were conducted and that he had a robust medical team there working with him, which is how they managed to complete 75 reviews in one day. Appenzeller denied that the plan was to find more warm bodies for the surge into Baghdad, as did Col. Wayne W. Grigsby Jr., the brigade commander. Grigsby said he is under "no pressure" to find soldiers, regardless of health, to make his unit look fit. The health and welfare of his soldiers are a top priority, said Grigsby, because are "our most important resource, perhaps the most important resource we have in this country."

Grigsby said he does not know how many injured soldiers are in his ranks. But he insisted that it is not unusual to deploy troops with physical limitations so long as he can place them in safe jobs when they get there. "They can be productive and safe in Iraq," Grigsby said.

The injured soldiers interviewed by Salon, however, expressed considerable worry about going to Iraq with physical deficits because it could endanger them or their fellow soldiers. Some were injured on previous combat tours. Some of their ills are painful conditions from training accidents or, among relatively older troops, degenerative problems like back injuries or blown-out knees. Some of the soldiers have been in the Army for decades.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:16 AM
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1. Where is Senator John Warner's sorry self on this issue?
He ought to call a press conference tomorrow morning on the steps of the Capitol and denounce the Bush administration for overt cruelty and incredible stupidity in the name of the men and women who are our wounded soldiers.

If we don't hear from Armed Services Committee stalwart John Warner on this, we do not owe him an ounce of attention or respect for the rest of his time on this earth.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:21 AM
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2. How sad our government has sunk to these levels for corporate profits
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 01:22 AM by Erika
Wehave a whole administration who should be impeached yesterday.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:23 AM
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3. This would be the clue, folks.
IMPEACH, INDICT, IMPRISON.

www.impeach07.org

:nuke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:36 AM
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7. Can crocodiles be involved? Your suggestions are of course the more
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 01:37 AM by Old Crusoe
historically responsible.

But the crocodile variable really does have enormous appeal...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:37 AM
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8. Let's strap a clock to him and see what happens.
:)

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:39 AM
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9. LOL! Tick tock tick tock Here comes the hungry croc
On the other hand, PETA would be at our doorsteps for animal cruelty.

We can't ask innocent creatures to swallow members of the Bush administration. We'd never hear the end of it.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:48 AM
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10. Bush does have a bit of a Peter Pan Syndrome
He's just a little boy who rides his bike all day, eats peanut butter and honey sandwiches for lunch, has Condi read him pasages from The Hungry Caterpillar before going beddy bye with his head on Mr. Pillie at nappy time. Like Peter Pan, Bush doesn't want to grow up and change. In fact, he's stubbornly resistant to any change or growth whatsoever. While Bush may be Peter Pan, Cheney is more like Captain Hook, dark, bloodthirsty, and paranoid. Condi must be Tinkerbelle.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:53 AM
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12. I've seen the Peter Pan statue in -- is it Kensington in London? -- and
was surprised how understated it was, and then realized that the U.S. version is the Disney drawing.

Cheney as Captain Hook. And Condi as TinkerBell. That's a gas.

But I'm wondering if in the end Peter Pan is the better man, and Dubya is too shallow to be even a fictional spirit.

Did you see Paul Newman in HUD? It was based on a Larry McMurtry novel called HORSEMAN PASS BY, and the main character, Hud, was a rascal, a tomcattin' out-late beer-guzzling fist-fightin' ladies man on the wind-blasted Texas plains. A guy who didn't give a damn.

He's the only character I've ever seen that Dubya reminds me of directly.

And Hud was a psychological mess.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:06 AM
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13. I saw that movie a long time ago
I don't remember it well, but I wouldn't give Bush the charisma that Paul Newman had in that role as a type of rogue or rascal (a fist-fightin' ladies man, as you say). Bush strikes me as someone who would have headed under the pool table at the first sign of a fist fight. But it's close. Bush certainly doesn't give a damn.

The thing about Peter Pan is that he stands for that side of the human personality that doesn't want the responsibilities that come with being an adult. Bush has never taken responsibility. He lives in a Never-Never Land where he can play his games and live out his swashbuckling fantasies about himself as a dress-up war president but in the end, when it comes time to go back to reality, he doesn't want to face it. Someone else always bails him out. Peter Pan answers to no one, keeps no schedule, and doesn't do anything he doesn't want to do. To me, that's a very strong part of Bush's personality, along with his resistance to change.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:08 AM
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14. I hear ya. I picked Hud because he didn't want any responsibility either,
and he was a no-good-for-nothin' kind of a guy as well.

I agree with you completely that at the first sign of a fist fight he'd likely dive behind a table or high-tail it out of town.

What do you say we hold the Iowa caucus next week and get this show on the road?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:37 PM
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18. Did it look like this?


:rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:41 PM
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19. LOL!
Ok, stop screwing with my head.

You know how VOLATILE I am.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:43 PM
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20. I think the Democrats should take this and RUN with it.
Or, maybe Mr. Chavez would oblige. :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:44 PM
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21. Probably right on with Chavez. We'd get his blessing on it, no questions
asked!

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:46 PM
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22. Okay, I'm sending it to the Venezuela Info Office.
:rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:53 PM
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24. Good deal. I'll help pay for the fax. Oh -- and send Brit Hume a copy.
We shouldn't pass up any opportunity to piss off Brit Hume.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:56 PM
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26. I really did send it.
The VIO is very responsive. :evilgrin:

I'd love to piss of Brit Hume. Let me tinker with it and out it goes.

lol
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:12 PM
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29. good lord I love it. Maybe Chavez will grant an inteview with you --
a DU exclusive!

I'd pay to hear it.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:07 PM
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47. They called me back today.
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 07:07 PM by sfexpat2000
And said that they keep their lit focused on Venezuela but will circulate the idea. :evilgrin:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:00 PM
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27. And, btw, you are a genius. What a powerful metaphor
to describe this pResident!

:toast:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:11 PM
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28. ain't_no_life_nowhere really put us on the track here with the Peter Pan
notion. I did a poor job with the Hud connection. I think I'm beating a dead horse here but I get a lot of Hud vibe in Dubya, especially when he flashes that smirk of his to reporters. But I can't find the window into the connection.

I'm thoroughly enjoying your idea of strapping a clock around Dubya and maybe dragging him through the Everglades or something. I haven't fished for years. But this coud lure me back.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:17 PM
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30. I confess that I've never seen that classic. Will and will check back in.
Imho, the Peter Pan comparison could be devastating if it gets picked up. :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:24 PM
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31. in post #9 anln gives us Condiliar as TinkerBell. I can see Condi's
scowling, jealous visage now, twitting about the air over Bush's Pan, glaring with rage as only Condi can do.

We could throw Karen Hughes in as Wendy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:27 PM
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32. This is a good jumping off image, lots of room to comment:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 03:34 PM
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33. "Mission accomplished, boss."
Maybe this is all that's left of the coalition of the willing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:31 AM
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39. Swamp Rat's version:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:12 PM
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41. Phenomenally good - that's it
Swamp Rat is King!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:22 PM
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44. Swamp Rat, how do you DO that? Beyond the technical facility, I mean.
You get the politics of it just right.

Condi as Tink is a bellringer.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:05 PM
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34. Actually it was the crocodile that swallowed the clock that got this started I think
I have read however other comparisons of Bush to Peter Pan on the Internet. Here's my quickly devised photo of "Bushler Pan". Unfortunately, the flesh tones don't match too well. And I was hoping to find a color photo of Mary Martin's famous portrayal of Peter Pan but couldn't find one. With all due respect to Mary Martin, she did tend to have the body of a little boy, especially in those tights. All I could find unfortunately was a color photo of a female model wearing a Peter Pan outfit to stick Bush's head on. Voila, Bushler Pan:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:31 PM
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35. works for me
:rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 04:53 PM
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36. O my god that's outrageous.
O my god.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:54 PM
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40. I'm thinking of writing an OP ED that uses this metaphor.
(And, by the way, the Venezuela Info Office did call me back to chat, lol.) How do I credit you for the metaphor? :hi:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:20 PM
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43. No crediting required
As mentioned, I've seen the discussion of George Bush as having a Peter Pan Syndrome on other blogs. If you could just send me a note when you finish the piece so I could have the pleasure of reading it, that would be great.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:06 PM
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45. I vote for Joseph Lieberman in the role of the nightgown-wearing Wendy
One night, Peter Pan appears in her bedroom and seduces her into abandoning reality and flying off with him to a fantasy world called "Never Never Land", where little boys and girls never grow up. I think Joe Lieberman as Wendy fits.

Then there are the Lost Boys, commanded by Peter Pan. I suggest people like Zell Miller and Sean Hannity as the Lost Boys, the people who continue to invest in Bush's fantasy world and look up to him as their leader.

Maybe Laura could be Tiger Lily. I don't know. I recall that Tinkerbelle (Condi?) was very jealous of both Wendy and Tiger Lily and their relationships to Peter Pan.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:12 PM
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46. LOL
:rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:26 AM
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38. Here ya go:
:D





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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:16 PM
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42. You are the best, man!
I just wonder how the crocodile with the ticking clock that pursues Captain Hook can be worked in. The croc image was what started this whole thing. And who represents that crocodile with the ticking clock? It's no longer Patrick Fitzgerald. Maybe Henry Waxman?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:32 PM
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15. Omigod! Junior IS PETER PAN!
:wow:

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:33 PM
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16. The Peter Pan Syndrome
According to Wikipedia:

"The Peter-Pan psychological type is one characterized by immaturity or certain sorts of psychological, social, and sexual problems. The type of personality in question, usually male, is immature and narcissistic. More completely, according to Kiley, the characteristics of a "Peter-Pan" include such attributes as irresponsibility, rebelliousness, anger, narcissism, dependency, manipulativeness, and the belief that he is beyond society's laws and norms. According to Kiley, "Peter Pan" is the adult little boy who, when in a relationship or in seeking a relationship, acts out a need for mothering. It is useful to compare the Jungian archetype of Puer Aeternus, the eternal boy.

In his Peter Pan book, Kiley likened the characters of J. M. Barrie's play, Peter Pan, to a dysfunctional co-dependent family."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:36 PM
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17. Intimately familiar, thanks, lol! Here ya go --

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:52 PM
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23. LMAO - but I'd also like to see Shrub's head superimposed on Mary Martin's body
That might be rather amusing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 02:54 PM
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25. I paged Swamp Rat because my graphics software is limited.
But, it certainly can be done. :evilgrin:

:hi:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:24 AM
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4. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will have something to say about these goldbricking
shirkers and malingerers who complain about going back to the Bush Holy War and this time doing our Chimp the favor of dying.

Now if only they had anal cysts, that would be a different story. That would be a reason to keep them home.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:26 AM
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5. Yes. We are angry
Beyond angry.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:30 AM
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6. indeed.
:mad:
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 01:51 AM
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11. So why not send disabled people?
I mean, seriously, paragraph #3 above is completely 180 degrees from everything we've been hearing, including during gays in the military debates...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 05:34 PM
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37. The Army Brass is callous and stupid.
Soldiers are treated worse than farm animals. This treatment for an all volunteer Military is disgraceful. This is the absolute opposite of how a Military will be able to increase it's ranks of new volunteers. Complete stupidity!
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