Who is or was the most evil American ever? (this time the poll)

[Bossy Monkey]

Poll question: Who is or was the most evil American ever? (this time the poll)

Nominations were taken here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=360783
Generally, I make every effort to check in within an hour and change out any non-vote-getters on the poll for further nominations from the floor, but I have the strong sense that the alleged president and vice president are going to run away with this. Even to my own disbelief, Nixon and Kissinger aren't on there; just yell real loud and I will make every effort (dialup willing) to get them up there.

I'm thinking we should start referring to Bush and Cheney only by their full names. Isn't that how we always treat our most notorious criminals?

[bryant69]

1. Can't believe Tailgunner Joe didn't make the list

You could also put some of the robber barons on that list as well.

Bryant
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[Bossy Monkey]

2. Do you mean Joe McCarthy in slot 8, or is there some other Tailgunner Joe? n/t

[ChiciB1]

4. I Think It's MR. JOE LIE!!! n/t

[bryant69]

8. I read it twice - must have missed it -I apologize for my stupidity.

[Bossy Monkey]

15. Not stupidity. Maybe like me, you also need reading glasses

Regardless, don't worry about it.

[TwilightGardener]

3. When you talkin' evil, you talkin' the Dickster. No one else comes close.

[madokie]

40. You can take those words to the bank, so to say

shooter is very dangerous to us

[cgrindley]

5. What about Jefferson Davis?

come on... you have to aim high as far as evil goes.

1. actually split up the country? check
2. actually defended slavery and owned slaves? check

It's a travesty of justice that he ever saw freedom again.

[ComerPerro]

51. jefferson was a tool run by groupthink, much like the Smirk or Reagan

although, granted, Ronald Reagan was pretty damn evil.

But Jefferson Davis is a relative nobody. Hell, lots of revered US Presidents owned slaves and defended (or refused to address) slavery. Nothing new.

[Double T]

6. The entire bush crime family.............

evil personified!!

[mntleo2]

7. You Forgot Custer

...whose hubris and conceit killed his entire regiment and got him what he deserved at his Last Stand shortly after slaughtering an entire village of peaceful Native Americans at Wounded Knee after having participated in genocide where ever he went.

Oh I wish GWB and all his ilk would find the same thing in oh, say Baghdad ...

Cat In Seattle

[hippiechick]

9. well, Blivet IS halfway there ...

"... slaughtering an entire village ... after having participated in genocide where ever he went..." :(

[Thothmes]

35. Custer

Lt. Colonel Custer did not commit the massacre at Wounded Knee, he had been dead for many years by then. I believe that you are thinking of the massacre on Washita River in Oklahoma of a Southern Cheyenne Village. That one he did commit.

[mntleo2]

49. You Are Right, Sorry About That ...

...I was thinking of the book Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee when I banged that comment out, but I still say he was one evil man.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

39. Um, the battle of Little Big Horn happened in June, 1876

where Custer got what he deserved. Wounded Knee happened in 1890. :hi:

[ComerPerro]

54. wrong about the battle, but so very very right about the evil of Custer

[mikelewis]

10. I guess I would have to say that the most evil person is the American people in general....

...though I know that's neither a popular nor singular-possessive opinion, however, without the American people, Bush, Cheney and the rest of those on the list wouldn't have been able to do "the evil that they do". By enabling their wickedness and often-times agreeing with it because it serves our own personal interests, we become as evil as they.

This of course does not apply to serial killers and the like but their evil, though personally and locally dramatic, does not have the same impact as state-sponsored evil. Dahmer did not condemn a nation through his crimes... neither his own nor any other... through politics, maniacal evil is magnified and synthesized into what can only be described as demonic in nature.

[deadmessengers]

11. I can't believe I'm the only one to say Hoover

I mean, the man practically invented the modern surveillance state. Even Stalin learned a thing or two from J. Edgar Hoover.

[cgrindley]

13. Yeah, he's a good choice

Most certainly an evil son of a bitch if ever there was one. Sort of like a paranoid nazi Ed Wood.

[tomp]

12. only one vote. damn!

we shouldn't forget the dulles brothers, just for a full range of choices. or wild bill donovan. or nixon.

prescott, ghw, gw bush, cheney and hoover are close, in my book, but i refuse to pick one.

[NashVegas]

14. John Foster Dulles Comes to Mind

...

[Lilith Velkor]

28. That's my answer as well

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[TahitiNut]

47. In all fairness, it took both Dulles brothers to equal Cheney's evil.

John and Alan ... an axis of evil.

[populistdriven]

16. Newton Leroy Gingrich

During the late 90's Newt Gingrich suggested the solution to decreasing teenage pregnancy was forcibly have the children of teenagers taken away from their parents and put in orphanages.

[Rydz777]

17. Central casting

Cheney is right out of Central Casting - the balding heavy who always has his head cocked at an angle and won't look you in the eye. (This posture also tends to spoil your aim.)

[Virginia Dare]

18. Cheney is a pit bull...

it's whomever is holding other end of the leash that I worry about.

[mnhtnbb]

19. I have to say the buck stops with GWB. He didn't have to engage Cheney.

If he wants to be the decider, then I think he should take responsibility for the evil of ALL the players in his administration.

[Bossy Monkey]

20. It gives me great pleasure to kick these men when they and their thread) are down

Especially the first two

[slackmaster]

21. Nothing could be more evil than a killer pedophile clown

[ComerPerro]

52. except, maybe, a killer pedophile clown ... with a flamethrower

[ComerPerro]

53. double post

[Initech]

22. What about W's grandfather Prescott Bush?

He was a big contributor to German businesses who had close ties to the Nazi party (and who helped fund Auschwitz), not to mention he helped give birth to the rise of this insane-era of neoconservatism we have now.

[itsmesgd]

29. his parent's would get the award for "best use of a time machine and condom"

[manic expression]

23. John Foster Dulles

Palmer, Hoover, etc...

We shouldn't be talking about evil people, we should be talking about unjust systems.

[Bossy Monkey]

34. The same system produced the Roosevelts: one trust-busting, one New Dealing

Obviously both also had their shortcomings, but I don't think it's unreasonable to discuss evil individuals, even taking into consideration that the system they serve is often also evil.

[dysfunctional press]

24. the beast with two backs created by a copulating poppy and babs, of course.

(there's an imageworm that's going to stick with you for awhile, huh?)

cheney is still just one of their lackeys.

[FVZA_Colonel]

25. Other - Nathan Bedford Forest

I cannot think of a more despicable man in the history of this country.

[Virginia Dare]

30. George "Felix" "Macacawitz" Allen worships him...

so much so that he named his son after him. :puke:

[FVZA_Colonel]

31. Really?

That's where it came from? :puke: indeed.

[itsmesgd]

26. I'm gonna go with Andrew Jackson

because of his policies towards the Native Americans

[geardaddy]

27. What about Rove? n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

32. Edward Bernays

[Zorra]

33. Karl Rove. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

36. NIXON!!!!

[lectrobyte]

45. My thoughts as well. After all, look at his escalation and drag-out of the

Vietnam war, Watergate and the damage it did to the democratic process, and he was the incubator for folks like Cheney and Rumsfeld.

[Sammy Pepys]

37. John Wayne Gacey...n/t

....

[lectrobyte]

46. What, 20 bodies? That's less than a day's worth in Iraq.

[demrabble]

38. Jefferson Davis

He was the President of the Confederate States of America.

The CSA was dedicated to continuing slavery in the USA, and went to war (causing the deaths of millions) to keep slavery.

[Casper]

41. Reagan, of course.

Are you kidding me that Reagan hasn't popped to the top of this list?

-Iran Contra
-Deregulation of everything
-"War" on drugs
-Reaganomics

[FourScore]

42. Let's not forget McNamara

[BlooInBloo]

44. Ooh - good one.

[FourScore]

43. KISSINGER!!!!

[mntleo2]

50. He's Another Evil M-F All Right n/t

[bmbmd]

48. Benedict Arnold?

His name has become a symbol of dishonor.

[alfredo]

55. The guy who invented sub woofers for cars.

[mvd]

56. Cheney

At the least, he was the main person behind the neglect before and on 9/11, and possibly much worse. The guy looks evil, talks in an evil way, and thinks pure evil. He has it all.

[ellisonz]

57. Nathan Bedford Forrest - Confederate General and Founder of the KKK.