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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:57 PM
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You know the media's fucking with you, right?
All this brouhaha over Olbermann and Matthews.

Gregory out front.

Rumors and feuds and Scarborough supposedly walking.

Rachel's up and running.

Yadda yadda yadda.

The facsista still control the teevee station even if the insurgents think they stormed the control room. It is simply high farce. MSNBC is the facsista's cartoon network.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:59 PM
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1. Do you have a solution?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:18 PM
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3. No
Do you?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:42 PM
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8. I do.
Turn. Them. Off.

It's not like they're actually informing us of anything. If you're a dedicated news junkie, watch "The Daily Show" for your fix every day. You don't really need to deliver a warm body to propagandists and their advertisers, do you?

I didn't have cable in 2004 when I finally got sick of being lied to and shut the bastards off forever. I found that I learned more about the state of the union from Simpson's reruns than I ever had from any of the networks, including PBS and their news shows.

My blood pressure is now a bit lower and my digestion is better. My dinner hour is filled with music if there's not a decent flick on TCM.

The only ways we can effect change are to vote Democrats in and their monopolies out and hit them in the wallet by denying their advertisers fresh meat.

And that means turning off and tuning out.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:37 AM
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19. Yeah. And it's all boring crap too. Especially the "News" programs. nt
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:19 PM
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4. Buy One of the Networks. There is No Other Solution


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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:51 PM
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9. 20 billion in capital to get into the game.
Seriously.

At this point, you think any of the four nets are for sale? Keep in mind each of CBS.NBC.ABC.FOX now holds another dozen channels on your cable dial. The vast conglomerates that own them -- Disney, GE, Viacom, Newscorp -- see these as invaluable flagship properties that help hold sway over the minds of several hundred million people. (CNN is Time-Warner, in case you forgot.)

I wonder whether a new start-up could even enter the game.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:38 AM
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20. Thats what the repukes did after watergate
or shortly thereafter was when I read that one of them said something to the effect that if they want to get their message out they will simply have to buy up the news organizations, of which they began to do in earnest.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:40 AM
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21. Yes. Yes, I do.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 07:47 AM by kayell
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djkevvy Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:17 PM
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2. If Scarborough walks, can we have Stephanie Miller in the mornings?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:39 PM
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7. That would be awesome. n/t
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:37 PM
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5. Wrong.
The media care about nothing but making money. If putting communist commentators on would get them more viewers, they'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:54 PM
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10. Maybe that was once the case ... but not any more
Now they use the media as a way to assist their other businesses. And that, right now, means getting repubicans in.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:55 PM
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11. Same old canard... bullshit.
Watch the way they fall in line at each major crisis, or in the run-up to the next invasion. They all present the same material, how does that win in a ratings competition? A network that reported half the truth about the 9/11 coverup would have had huge ratings, so why didn't they? Each of these news divisions is a small piece in the far larger business plan of a vast conglomerate. Ratings are nice, but they aren't interested in really rocking the boat and there is a host of issues the big-cap media will not touch.
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Clickhere Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:38 PM
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6. Olbermann continues to get sky high ratings
That's all that matters.
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Catholic Atheist Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:17 PM
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12. Pretty freaking hard to believe...
I can't believe George Stephanoplace once worked FOR the Clintons, and now he's turned into a total right-wing TOOL!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:23 PM
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13. Little Deceits and Big Ten Gallon Supersized
MCDONALD’S IN THE NEWS

Perhaps you thought that television news programs couldn’t get any cheesier or more corporate. If so, you have seriously underestimated the cheesiness of the Fox affiliate in Las Vegas.

The morning news show on KVVU has literally given McDonald’s a seat at the news desk. No, make that on the news desk. Placed in front of the news anchors are two cups of McDonald’s iced coffee.

Only, Jason and Monica never take a sip. They can’t, since the drinks are fake. They are a glaring product-placement advertisement paid for by the fast-food huckster. Viewers are never told that the cups are an ad, and neither Fox nor McDonald’s will say how much gold exchanged hands to put the Golden Arches on the set each day.

What if there’s a breaking news story involving the restaurant chain? Not to worry, say station executives, because in that case the cups would be temporarily displaced from the news desk. And you thought there were no ethics left in journalism.

Otherwise, the corporate suits running the place see no problem with this little deceit. It’s merely a “nontraditional revenue source,” says KVVU’s news director. McDonald’s also has similar placement deals with Fox stations in Chicago and Seattle. Maybe this advance in “newsvertisements” will make it to your town, too.

http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=2838



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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:32 PM
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14. Can we sue them for breach of social contract?
This keeps running through my head.

The press is "free" due to the First Amendment. They are free because the writers of the Constitution deemed a "well informed" populace to be key to keeping the Republic. If the press doesn't hold up their end of the contract, can't we sue? Rescind their licenses? Make them re-apply after they've proven they are taking seriously their roles as "avenues of truth."

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:58 PM
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15. I'd like to sue them becuse they made my hair hurt.
The fact is, the broadcast networks operate in the public interest on The People's airwaves.

Like that matters these days.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:09 AM
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16. Are the new digital airwaves part of The People's airwaves?
Yeah, I think too much.

And my tinfoil hat is too tight.

Eh, so sue me. /snark

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:34 AM
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17. Nope, they're not.
They're like telephone lines. Privately owned and privately managed.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 07:35 AM
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18. Who?
;)
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