More info on the Father that fatally shot man he found with his teen daughter

[trumad]

Houston police now say a father shot and killed a 27-year-old man he found with his teen daughter Saturday night.

Initially, an Amber Alert was issued night for 13-year-old Tesa Taylor, and then she returned home Sunday at 11 a.m.

The incident began just before 11 p.m. Saturday when her parents arrived home at 6900 Chasewood Drive and found the two.

Police said the man, John Dove, and the girl ran out.

The mother reportedly went into the home to call 911. As she was on the phone with the emergency operator, she received a phone call from Dove saying he was coming back to the residence to talk to her.

As Dove approached the residence, he became involved in a heated argument with the mother on his cell phone.

The father returned to the residence with a loaded shotgun and saw Dove approaching his wife. He told police Dove made a gesture he took as threatening and became combative.

After a struggle, the father allegedly shot and killed the man, Houston police said.

Police are considering charges against the father.

Initially the mother told HPD that there were two men inside and they were strangers, and as she entered, the suspects ran out.

Off-camera, some members of her family told 11 News she had run away to a friends house, fearing she’d get in trouble for inviting two male friends over.

They said Taylor apparently met them through a chat line.

Police have yet to confirm the story and said they're still looking for pieces to put this puzzle together.
http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou070311_ac_missinggirl.128f4ba.html

[trumad]

1. I'll reply to my own thread...

It looks like the Dad had every right to defend his family.

[Richard Steele]

2. Looks like EVERYONE needs to wait until more facts are available.

This certainly isn't the story everyone jumped on
this morning, is it?

I remain in "wait and see" mode.

[Beaverhausen]

5. Good point

This story has already changed a lot from that other thread.

For instance, Dad was not waiting for the 27 year old with a shotgun in his hand, etc.

[TahitiNut]

15. Nawww... facts just get in the way of a self-righteous rant.

:shrug: DU's favorite sport.

[enid602]

3. address

I was starting to fall for this story hook, line and sinker, then saw the address '6900 Chasewood;' sounds fishy.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

4. Dateline: To Catch A Predator

Guess there were no TV cameras or cops to arrest this child predator. Just the father with a loaded gun.

But that predator won't be frequenting any under age online chat rooms again.

[cwydro]

6. Sounds like they've got some issues

with that girl too. TWO male friends??? Met on a chat line...Oh boy. 13 years old?

[WatchWhatISay]

11. 13 year old girls have lots of issues these days

its almost impossible to protect them from predators AND THEMSELVES these days. My daughter is now 18 and stabilizing somewhat, but she just told me the other day that she has HPV. I really tried to teach her self respect when she was a preteen, but it didnt take. It makes me sad to think what she put herself through.

[Pavulon]

14. Stat. Rape should not be one of them

I feel no sympathy for adults who mess with kids. A shotgun may not be the universal solution but..

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. I know you didn't mean it to sound this way, but I'd like to clarify because

there are youngsters on this board. A lot of well adjusted, self respecting (and even monogamous) people are out there with HPV. I hope your daughter knows that too.

[boston bean]

21. 25% of women will get hpv. It is a sexually transmitted disease, but it doesn't mean your daughter

was promiscuous.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. It's over 50%

[gollygee]

25. Or that she lacks self respect

she's 18 and has been sexually active and that means she's lost all self-respect? *sigh* Do people feel this way about their sons if they're sexually active or just their daughters?

[Quantess]

35. please don't judge her for having HPV.

It's extremely common, and it does not necessarily mean she was promiscuous. All that tells us it that she's not a virgin. And obviously, she caught it from a boy who already had it.

[NorthernSpy]

7. he's had DAYS to think of an excuse, and this is all he came up with?

How many "home invaders" call first?

:eyes:

And you'll notice that the girl ran off with the man when they were discovered -- which strongly suggests to me that she's afraid of her father and his violent temper.


Bottom line: this man shot someone with malice aforethought. So yeah, I'm sure he'll say pretty much anything he can think of now to get himself off the hook.

[kath]

29. my thoughts exactly - "THAT'S the best excuse he can come up with???!!"

[Lost-in-FL]

8. I don't want to sound mean or so...

but why is this important? I know this is GD, but doesn't this belong in the Lounge? I don't see anything that would contribute with discussion. :hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. Perhaps vigilante justice???

And whether it is ever warranted? :hi:

[Lost-in-FL]

13. I gotcha!!! Thanks!!!

:hi: I'll look into this in depth.

[shield20]

20. Definitely...

when its YOUR daughter, or child? For sure.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. LOL

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. What's the man's name?

They've identified the girl, and the victim, but not the father.

[Pavulon]

12. Check list

Feel the your or another's life is threatened is the standard to use deadly force.

1) stranger in your home (right to shoot after dark automatically here)
2) approaching the wife in a combative manner.
3) screwing around with his underage minor child.
4) one man left standing

No jury will convict him. Looks like he picked the wrong house to be a pederast in.

Problem solved for under a dollar. Call stanley steamer.

[NorthernSpy]

19. lots of murderers claim self defense, just as lots of murderers claim insanity...

We'd have to be pretty dim just to take them at their word.

I've got a question that might help to illuminate the character of this man:

Why did the daughter flee the house when her father came home?

[kath]

30. But the other guy was UNARMED.

sure doesn't sound like self-defense to me.

[H2O Man]

16. Thank you.

It sure sounds like he was protecting his family. That's a good thing.

[NorthernSpy]

27. then why did his daughter try to escape?

It sure sounds like he was protecting his family. That's a good thing.

It sounds to me like that girl is seriously afraid of her father. That's a bad thing.

[shield20]

18. Nice job

by a concerned father. Goof for him. Hope it works out OK.

[NorthernSpy]

24. why did the girl try to escape her "concerned father"?

When her father came home, she fled. She literally ran out into the night, and tried to escape.

Why do you suppose she did that?

[gollygee]

26. It could be for a lot of reasons

teen girls who are seduced by older men don't always understand that they are being victimized and will often run to the men who are using them.

Or maybe her dad was abusing her. That is a possibility. But it isn't necessarily so.

[NorthernSpy]

28. men who prey on adolescents often seek out the most vulnerable...

Girls who live in fear of their fathers' anger and capacity for violence will likely be quite susceptible to anyone who seems to promise emotional comfort and security.


She didn't just sneak off to be with this older man. She literally ran from her father. She didn't stop and try to reason with him or explain. She fled.

The only thing that suggests to me is that she was actually afraid for her own safety at that point.

What does that indicate about the man who committed the murder? Could it possibly be that he's a genuinely violent person, rather than some sort of righteous, concerned, all-around wonderful dad?


Show of hands, people: how many here would say that your own kids would ever run from you in fear?

[gollygee]

31. He certainly seems to have an issue with violence

I was never afraid my dad was going to shoot anyone anyway.

If I was angry at him and had a "boyfriend" I might have ran away from him and to the boyfriend during a fight though. Teenagers fight with their parents.

("boyfriend" is in quotation marks because it isn't an appropriate word for a relationship between a 13-year-old and a 27-year-old)

[trumad]

32. Let's see--- she got seduced by a chat

Invited the guy{s} over...and then Mom came home followed by Dad.

I could see her saying oh shit and running from a pissed off set of parents.

[Mr. Ected]

33. TEXAS. Repeat After Me, It Was TEXAS.

I'm so surprised a shotgun murder could happen there.

[Mugu]

34. We had a terrible tragedy here

last week involving an intergenerational couple (for lack of a better name to call it.) A 19 YO woman had taken up with a 60 YO man. I had spoken to both of these people on numerous occasions at the counter of a local family restaurant. She was just a tiny little gal, probably only 90 pounds with her school bag and just cute as a baby bunny. He wasn’t a big man (180 pounds) and had had a hip replaced, but he was a gymnast as a young man and behaved like a mountain goat.

I can only assume that she thought that he was nice because he bought her liquor, was her personal taxi after she lost her license for a DUI, and spent considerable money wining and dining her. Her parents had tried to keep them apart, but were unable even after moving to another city (she lived with her parents while attending college.)

This situation continued until she turned 21 in mid February and told him that she wanted to start dating other men.

The authorities were called to a vehicle fire and when they arrived they found his car completely engulfed in flames and the building that he lived in (an old warehouse) on fire. Because of metal doors, piles of stuff, and lexan windows the firemen were unable to gain access to the building until it was fully engulfed. Once the fire was put out, the authorities recovered her body with two bullet holes in her head and him with a single bullet hole in his.

I’m sure that her father wishes that he had killed the SOB when he found out about the relationship. If he had, he’d be in prison, but his little girl would still be alive. Life can be very unfair.

Regards, Mugu

[Richard Steele]

36. Looks like this needs a KICK, as it has dropped while the other thread is still going...