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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:55 PM
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Gas is going up because of daylight savings time?
CNN story says, we will drive more because of more daylight savings time. Wow! Wasn't the reason to go on daylight savings to save energy. I'm either getting senile or this country is part of the economic global community and the big ones (Big Oil) want me to go Third World.
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 06:57 PM
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1. LOL! Gotta' get that summer-blended gas formulated - even though it's 8 degrees outside!
LOL!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:02 PM
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2. Actually, it was in the high-80's out here.
HeeHee (not that my statement is particularly relevant).

:)
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:06 PM
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3. I believe you, but they were pushing summer driving 'reason' in Feb.!
The mainstream media has numerous excuses for Exxon Mobil; they are *so worried* that people are going to question predatory capitalism.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:39 PM
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16. I always question predatory capitalism!
And, I always mistrust whatever Big Oil says. Hubby worked in the Oil and Gas industry right out of college - for 15 years at least (in the computer modeling end of things). SO glad we moved on ...

Anyway, I digress ..

:hi:
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rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:07 PM
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4. BTW, what city? (That's pretty warm for March!) n/t
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:34 PM
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15. Sorry I'm late - Kid had an electric scooter mishap (scraped knee)!
Murrieta, Ca. (1-1/2 north of San Diego - inland).
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:56 PM
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9. They're not lying about that one, not completely
However, they've closed so many refineries that there is no way to increase the supply of winter gas. Competition for remaining stores of winter formula gas is driving the price up. Supply of oil is up. Refinery capacity is not.

Also, Saudi Arabia admitted their shortfall on their promise to open the tap last fall was not a voluntary one. Some of their fields are playing out, as well as some of the Mexican fields.

Don't expect large or long lasting price breaks, in other words.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:13 PM
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5. Gas is going up..
.... because the Nov elections are over and the oil companies aren't afraid of the Dem congress.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:14 PM
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6. I was hearing that all weekend on the top-of-the-hour
new reports (on the radio).

They kept telling me I was going to drive for an extra hour, but I couldn't figure out where I was supposed to go.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:27 PM
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7. I heard it is because of increased consumption and the temporary closing of one of the refineries.
They always do something to one of the refineries when gas is getting too cheap. Fire, maintenance, whatever. Need I say more.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 07:44 PM
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8. The gas here in Az has gone from 2.14 to 2.69 in 2 wks
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:02 PM
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10. Daylight "Savings" is just a corporate tool to take away all your productive hours

Business can't stand the idea of people getting up and enjoying their mornings.

Bastards.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:36 PM
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11. Why would we drive more. I drive to work. I drive home. I drive in the day
I drive at night.

Pffft.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:39 PM
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12. guess they will try any rationalization except... Collusion and price gouging.
:shrug:

Ever notice how many "refinery fires/problems" happen just around holidays as the convenient explanation for price spikes?

I remember when collusion was frowned upon and could invoke serious regulatory actions. Of course that was before Reagan shepherded in the current era of "all regulations are bad, because businesses always act in the best interest of consumers while govt protection dogs never do" that we still live in.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:39 PM
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13. Gas is going up
because the oil companies are greedy bastards.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 08:47 PM
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14. Great investigative report from 2001 by a Senator about what is going on with the oil
industry, and what Bush's policies had planned. Looks like it all worked out for them. http://wyden.senate.gov/leg_issues/reports/wyden_oil_report.pdf
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:41 PM
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17. ok thats about the 18th different justification i've heard for rising gas prices
they're just going to keep throwing shit against the wall and see if any of it sticks.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 09:49 PM
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18. Yep, Daylight Savings Time is a fraud...
......designed to do nothing more than manipulate and fleece consumers, just like most everything else in this society.

It's all explained in the NPR segment here: turn your clocks back and open up your wallets

There goes that seditious public radio bunch again, informing the citizenry, free of charge and without vulgar shilling.
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:41 AM
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19. I've been conned a few times in my life but this is...
insulting. Big Oil has every member of congress in their pocket. This gas thing is just the tip of the iceberg. Everyone is running for president and no one's watching the store.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:11 AM
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20. gas goes up if
my cat sneezes or dog farts (maybe dog farting is contributing to global warming?)

suffice to say - the Gas-Oil-Petroleum (GOP) companies and cronies do not need any excuses to raise prices
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:19 AM
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21. What a load of happy horseshit
Gas is going up because of one simple factor, greed. This greed is being aided and abetted by the oil crew in charge. Remember way back to the State of the Union speech? Remember how Bushboy promised to double the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Well, we're seeing the effects of this happening now. It not only provides a legit excuse to gouge the consumer, but provides further cover for an even greater gouging. Now they can seamlessly blend this semi-excuse right into their next semi-excuse, the upcoming summer driving season. And around and around it goes, while the real reason for this ongoing price hike is never discussed, that we're running out of cheap oil. Nope, the frog will just keep getting the temperature raised, and the record profits will keep rolling in.
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:45 AM
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24. I must be real dumb.
Each time I fill my tank, I review in my mind: Bush&Cheney represent the oil industry. What can I do? I e-mail Senator Nelson(D)Fl. He writes back confusing say nothing letter and invites me to contact him again. So, I'm tired of just sitting back and taking about The Blind Congress and the Great Gas Con Game. Therefore, I'm real dumb or I have to do something. What would you do?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:00 PM
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25. This is what I've done
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 05:04 PM by MadHound
A year and a half ago, I started riding this for my daily commute, and any other time I need to get between point A and point B Granted, I can do so only during reasonable weather, but if it is 28 degrees or higher, and dry, I ride. The bike cruises at 55-60 mph and gets 100 mpg. I've put over 7000 miles on mine, but then again for awhile I had a fifty two mile round trip commute, and still have a thirty four mile round trip commute. This is a Bajaj Chetak scooter, from India. But you can find your local dealer here<http://www.bajajusa.com>. There are others out there also, but in my experience these are the best scooters on the road. These bikes are perfect for the city, or in reality anywhere.

I also grow a great deal of my own food, and if I don't grow it, I get my food from as many local sources as possible. This too saves energy and you also benefit from higher quality food. And it doesn't neccessarily have to cost more. I work out an exchange with my neighbor who raises organic cattle, and in return for buying bulk(I purchase a quarter beef at a time), I have a significant price break. It works out to be $1.83/lb for any cut of beef. I also obtain chicken and pork the same way. Granted I live on a twenty acre farm, but frankly almost everybody can have a garden of some size, preserve the food, and/or patronize their local farmers and farmers market.

I'm fortunate enough to live on a piece of land large enough to put up a wind turbine, which I'm doing this summer. It takes up aprox a quarter of an acre, and in most urban settings you will have to deal with local codes which may prohibit turbines(though I do know a fellow who put his own up in the St. Louis area in the late seventies, and has upgraded with no problems). However those who have houses can install solar panels on them, generally enough to supply their own energy needs. But even if you're an apartment dweller, you can still put pressure on your local governement and energy providers to force them into purchasing energy from renewable suppliers. My nearest city, Columbia Mo, recently voted to require the city get five percent(increasing this percentage gradually over time) from renewable sources. The city jumped in with both feet and is now purchasing ten percent of their energy from renewables, and is aggressively pushing it upwards.

When my pickup truck finally dies(for I believe it makes the best economic/energy sense to fully use something up before getting something to replace it), I will be purchasing a diesel vehicle and running it on biodiesel that I make. I'm already doing this for my diesel tractor. It is a simple, easy way of using renewable fuel that is clean burning and clean to produce(the waste products from making biodiesel are water and glycerin, which I sell to a local neighbor who makes soap). You can get a kit to make your own biodiesel, and between picking up the used fryer oil and the actual manufacture, I spend about three hours of time per forty gallon batch, which costs aprox. sixty cents per gallon for costs. You too can set one of these up in your garage and make your own<http://www.homebiodieselkits.com/>

There are things that you can do, from simple to complex, from inexpensive to large initial cash outlays that will more than pay for themselves in time. Inform yourself, do some research, see what your budget and circumstances allow, and then go out and do it. It is really that simple.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:22 AM
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22. People are known to travel for St. Paddy's Day!
:sarcasm:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:27 AM
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23. Marsh gas, refracting off Venus and weather balloons...
Oops, wrong BS line.

Sorry.
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