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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:52 AM
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His nice uniform can't mask qualities which would make Lucifer proud
Gen. Pace: Homosexuality "Immoral"

WASHINGTON—The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday he considers homosexuality to be immoral and the military should not condone it by allowing gay personnel to serve openly, the Chicago Tribune reported.

Marine Gen. Peter Pace likened homosexuality to adultery, which he said was also immoral, the newspaper reported on its Web site.

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The newspaper said Pace did not address concerns raised by a 2005 government audit that showed some 10,000 troops, including more than 50 specialists in Arabic, have been discharged because of the policy. **outrageous!!

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1598498,00.html


Gee, what a Christian you are General Pace, you killer.

Dropping a shock and awe number of bombs on a civilian population of 5,900,000 in Baghdad, splattering pieces of their bodies all over the place....perfectly fine apparently.


However, two people of the same gender loving each other..just wanting to live their lives in peace....lives which don't affect or hurt anyone...that'"immoral" and something he needs to address.

Now I've heard everything from this murderer at the Pentagon.


Take a look at all of the countries that allow gay people to openly serve in the military:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service

LOOK AT ALL OF THE NATO COUNTRIES!!!

What the hell is wrong with the United States? You would think we would be the example.


* Argentina<1>
* Australia
* Austria
* The Bahamas
* Belgium
* Bulgaria<2>
* Canada
* Colombia
* Croatia<2>
* Czech Republic
* Denmark
* Estonia <3>
* Finland
* France
* Germany
* Hungary
* Ireland
* Israel
* Italy<2>
* Lithuania
* Luxembourg
* The Netherlands
* New Zealand
* Norway
* Peru
* Poland
* Portugal<2>
* Romania<4>
* Slovenia
* South Africa
* Spain
* Sweden
* Switzerland
* Taiwan
* Thailand
* United Kingdom

Why do people like Peter Pace feel they have the right to speak this way about other human beings?

What a horrible person.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:58 AM
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1. Pace is another one of those idiots
Who believes morality is confined to what one does with their genitals. :eyes:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:05 AM
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3. Yup....but doing this over residential neighborhoods is just fine!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:10 AM
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6. Of course it is
'Cuz they're only killing "the enemy", and the enemy is "not us", which makes it OK. :eyes:


And it's effing scary how easily they turn people into "not us" to suit their needs. :hide:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:03 AM
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2. He's scum
Nothing less.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:05 AM
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4. When did Argentina
and Colombia join NATO?

:-)

For that matter when did Israel join NATO?

:-)

I know nitpicky, that said, you are correct, it is high time to allow Gays to serve openly
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:07 AM
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5. LOL....no, I meant look at all of the NATO countries on that
list....almost two dozen
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lefador Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:20 AM
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7. Hum, an army by its mere function is inmoral
I guess this general did not stop to think how his job title sort of goes against everything the founder of his beloved religion stood for. There are a couple of passages in the bible that mention homosexuality, there are entire chapters, however, devoted to the whole "thou shalt not kill" meme... I consider any armed force to be far more immoral than whatever consenting adults decide to do behind closed doors.

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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:43 AM
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8. "Me thinks the queen doth protest too much..." nt
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:28 AM
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9. An even more compelling list, is the list of countries
who BAN gays from serving in the military:

*Belarus
*Brazil
*Cuba
*Egypt
*Greece
*Iran
*Latvia
*North Korea
*Philippines
*Saudi Arabia
*Serbia
*Syria
*Venezuela
*Yeman

Seems we have a lot in common with the "Axis of Evil", not to mention most Middle Eastern countries ("friend" or "foe"),with Cuba and Venezuela (boo!) thrown in for good measure. Makes you feel proud to be an American, doesn't it?




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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:44 AM
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10. Interesting how the most powerful Middle Eastern
country (arguably) does allow gay people to serve.

Yup, those gay people are sure weakening the IDF! :sarcasm:


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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:49 AM
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14. Is this post anti-Pace or pro-Israel? Both?
You are aware, of course, that Pace has been the spokesman for the Generals and staff at the Joint Chiefs who have opposed BushCo and AIPAC pressure to attack Iran.

Not surprising at this point to see an effort to isolate Pace from his potential base of support among progressive Democrats.

Nice try, guys. Hope you enjoy the conference this week.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:59 AM
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15. What are you talking about? In terms of allowing gay people to
openly serve in the military, it is both "anti-Pace" and "pro-Israel."

Anti-Pace in the sense he is a homophobe.

Pro-Israel in the sense gay people are allowed to serve in the military.

If you would, please try not to mix issues in my thread.



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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:34 AM
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18. "try not to mix issues in my thread" That's rich.
You're the one who knocked Pace for his "immoral" statement -- you are entitled -- but, then you raised up Israel as a paragon. It wasn't I who mixed those issues.

By the way, if you can't see that this attack on Pace is timed to a larger agenda, then I would suggest you pay closer attention.

By the way, as OP, it is not "your" thread. My comment is far from OT, and I have every right to make it here. You are, knowingly or not, repeating a propaganda meme. Not a new one.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:43 AM
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19. I was pointing out that despite allowing gay people to openly
serve, Israel has a very strong military.

Therefore, there's a vivid example of how allowing gay people to openly serve is not as detrimental as your hero General Pace would like United States citizens to believe.

I'm not sure why your brain wasn't able to compute the very basic facts of my OP.

And stop defending this disgusting man. He is scum.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:14 AM
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16. Maybe the joos made him say those blatantly homophobic statements.
It's a plot I tells ya!


:sarcasm: (just in case)
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:48 AM
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11. So since sex outside of marriage is adultery and adultery is immoral...
if we allowed gay marriage, homosexual sex would cease to be immoral. Right?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:05 AM
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12. Of course you realize Republics, uh, I mean Republicans don't
understand logic, right?

Their specialty is name-calling and hate speak.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:28 AM
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17. Yes.
But I have a penchant for attempting the practically impossible.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:09 AM
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13. The RaptureReady.com nuts adore Pace.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:53 AM
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20. Kick.
It's always nice to see who the United States shares anti-gay military policies with. Saudi Arabia, anyone?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:31 AM
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21. Yea, where is the outrage? Guess I'll continue searching for it
somewhere.
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