How can you say "Homosexuality is immoral" if you've never tried it?

[trumad]

That's like saying Sushi is disgusting---but you've never tried it.

I gotta admit that I've never tried uh Gay sex---so...I'll just keep my big mouth shut and not opinionate about it.

[Richardo]

1. You've killed someone? Or are you reserving judgement on murder, too?

I don't think homosexuality is immoral, but I don't agree with your logic.

[trumad]

7. Wow--- killing someone or Gay Sex?

I don't agree with your logic.

[regnaD kciN]

15. The logic is perfectly valid...

It's the original post that is faulty in its logic, as it simply tries to equate "I find something to be unpleasant" with "I find something to be immoral."

That equation doesn't work. There are plenty of things that are immoral that one might want to do otherwise, like stealing someone's brand-new Lexus because one has only a broken-down old Nissan. Indeed, it could be argued that there would be little need for a moral code (or civil laws, for that matter) if everything we consider unethical was also considered highly unpleasant to do -- because, then, nobody would want to do it anyway.

[greyl]

18. You are correct. nt

[shadowknows69]

34. MMMMM Lexus

n/t

[Forkboy]

52. Thanks for saving me some time!

:)

[stillcool]

24. Actually killing someone does not...

mean the person is immoral either. I think, that we can all see circumstances...if we try...where any human behavior can be understood..even anticipated. When a person declares another being as immoral without understanding what they are condemning does it make a difference what the reason?

[Xenotime]

37. What about incest? Is that immoral too?

Who says what IS and what IS NOT immoral? Who gave anybody the right to be the moral "compass" for my life?

[LoZoccolo]

2. "not opinionate about it"

So therefore you are saying that it could be immoral? :popcorn:

[trumad]

4. LOL

No--- I'm saying if I'd like it or not.

Don't know until you've tried it.

[cwydro]

9. Wait...

so if you LIKE something that determines whether it is moral or not???

Oh, OK. Sure.

[trumad]

11. This Op was intended to be a bit humorous

and a total blast at Pace. Instead--- now I find myself in a fight with folks who like to play games with words.

Thats DU for you.

[cwydro]

13. OK

thank you for telling me. I didn't think it was characteristic of you, but there's been some weird stuff lately going on around here.

No offense meant.

[endarkenment]

19. face saving gesture. nt.

[ccpup]

27. you're right

that's why I find myself posting less and less and not donating as much. kinda sad, really. I got the humour in your original Post, though. :-)

[Kingshakabobo]

6. LOL. You're bad.

:spank:

[taterguy]

3. I'm fairly certain that genocide is immoral

Even though I've never tried it.

I don't think homosexuality is immoral but I think that's kind of a silly argument

ps Sushi is disgusting. It's freaking raw fish

[gratuitous]

5. I've never dropped a bomb on anyone

And particularly not on anyone who didn't know the bomb was coming, couldn't fight back, and couldn't get away. And yet I'm pretty comfortable with naming that immoral. What I'm not comfortable with is someone who can drop bombs under those circumstances, and then pretend to know anything about the morality of anything else.

[trumad]

8. Good post

[wildbilln864]

10. Not really a good post!

Why do we fall into Rove's strategy of using the gay issues as with so many others to divide the people in order to keep their attention away from much, much more important issues? Like illegal and immoral war! Treason in our government(see Sibel Edmonds)! :banghead:

[trumad]

12. Well--- PACE said it was immoral--- how does he know?

[endarkenment]

20. joke not a joke?

could you make up your mind? Are you series?

[greyl]

23. He doesn't "know". He just has an ignorant and unenlightened opinion. nt

[Lex]

14. Homosexuality isn't like trying sushi, dear.

My suggestion is to think through the logic of your OP a little more thoroughly.

[endarkenment]

17. Well to a vegetarian it might be similar.

I vegetarian could find sushi eating to be immoral without ever having dined on raw fish. What the vegetarian or the hate mongering general cannot do is to honestly declare the experience unpleasant having never tried it.

The OP might be winning an award for the least thought through post of the week.

[Lex]

21. The general didn't "honestly declare" the experience "unpleasant."

He declared homosexuality to be immoral.

I would venture to say that there is a big difference.

[endarkenment]

22. yes of course that is the point.

The general is free to weigh in on the morality of homosexuality without having experienced it, and can do so honestly. I might think he is a hate mongering fascist theocrat, but I cannot dispute his honesty over this. Had he declared homosexuality to be unpleasant, I could challenge him to defend that remark by stating that he has either tried it or is being dishonest.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

26. That's SOP for the OP.

[greyl]

16. That's a lousy argument.

I see your claim that you're attempting to be humorous, but I think the ridiculousness of your statement outshines the humor and brings up other questions.

[WinkyDink]

25. Experience isn't the standard. The OP makes zero sense.

[Midlodemocrat]

28. Homosexuality isn't something to 'try', like sushi or other exotic foods.

People who are gay don't 'try' it and then decide to like it or not. It's a biological occurrence.

As for me, I think murdering innocent Iraqis is immoral. Being in a loving relationship is about as far from immoral as I can get.

[sniffa]

29. another day, another cry

:boring:

[RebelOne]

30. I had a Lesbian friend who would say to me:

"Don't knock it until you have tried it."

[RagingInMiami]

54. Did you fall for it?

[cboy4]

31. You sure are obsessed with homosexuality, aren't you?

You and a couple of other DUers seemingly think about it almost as much, if not as often as some of the most notorious right wing fundamentalist Christian conservatives who make the news.

Never-the-less, I wholeheartedly agree with the last part of your closing sentence (even though I'm fairly certain it's not proper English to use the word "opinionate.")

[RagingInMiami]

32. I bet you don't even look at penises in the shower either

[trumad]

46. Nope...do you?

Just kidding--- Hope all is well down in my old hometown, Miami.

[RagingInMiami]

47. You're not here anymore?

[trumad]

50. Orlando area....

I do miss it down there ---unless of course I come across a crime scene..;-)

[RagingInMiami]

53. You probably have more sense than I do when dealing with these thugs

But seriously, that sucks that you moved because we need all the dems we can get down here. But maybe Orlando needs it more.

[shadowknows69]

33. Like how can we criticize Bush's "Surge"?

If we don't give it a chance.B-)

[BlooInBloo]

35. opine

[bryant69]

36. That is a wierd argument

But of course the people who say that Homosexuality is Immoral aren't relying strictly on their own experience - they are saying it because they believe that that is what God says. And God is presumed to know best.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[lectrobyte]

38. I don't see where morality enters into homo or hetero sexuality at all.

After all, prohibitions against murder, theft, etc. can be seen as creating a world where we are safer from murder, theft, etc., so why the concern over what folks do in the privacy of their own lives, providing they are consenting adults and all that?

[JackBeck]

40. Because

Hating gays is a very lucrative, right-wing business.

[yurbud]

39. EASY--you're tempted and fighting back the urge to try it.

[Colobo]

41. Homosexuality is not inmoral, is perfectly normal... but your logic sucks

[La Lioness Priyanka]

43. ...

:thumbsup:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. what? how is morality related to something one hasnt tried.

i think abortions are perfectly moral. should i go get artificially knocked up so i can get an abortion and prove its morality?

also what is disgusting to one individually has nothing to do with morality. i think chopped liver is disgusting. that has nothing to do with the morality of eating chopped liver.

[Dorian Gray]

44. Your logic is faulty

you don't need to try something to know whether it is immoral or wrong. Having said that, i don't believe that homosexuality is immoral. But the original argument is not proof in and of itself that it is immoral.

I'd argue that Love is not immoral, and from that standpoint, homosexuality isn't immoral.

[NMMNG]

45. Sexuality isn't something you try out like a new dish at Applebee's

You are what you are, and there is no moral/not moral about it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. can i have that ala mode?

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

49. Been there, Done that. n/t

[Horse with no Name]

51. Personally I don't give a flip what any consenting adult does behind their

doors nor do I care whom they do it with.
I don't need a government to legislate my morality. I can do that just fine, thank you very much.
I need a government that takes care of their citizen's needs(such as not allowing them to drown in the streets), healthcare, and upholding everyone's basic liberties.

[NDP]

55. Because there is a difference between "immoral" and "impossible." n/t

[Jamastiene]

56. That's just it. You seem to be "opinionating" about it

quite a bit lately. If your recent post history is any indication, I'd say you think about homosexuality more than many in the GLBT community do. Go on and get you some if you can't stop thinking about it. Maybe then, you will start to actually "get it." :eyes:

[ComerPerro]

57. You don't have to have done something to deem it immoral

however, saying homosexuality is immoral is like saying being Christian is immoral, or better yet, that being left handed is immoral.