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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:19 PM
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Christian Newswire: "Gen. Pace was just telling truth on gays; should not apologize"
What a wonderfully uplifting and loving press release. This one even goes back and digs out the "HIV is retribution from God" schtick.



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Christian Newswire/ -- A homosexual advocacy group, Servicemembers Legal Defense Network is demanding an apology from Marine Gen. Peter Pace who said in a Chicago Tribune interview that homosexuality was like adultery. He also stated that "the military should not condone it by allowing gays to serve openly in the military."

But Phil Magnan of Biblical Family Advocates disagrees with them in saying, "If there is any apologizing that needs to be done, it's by homosexual advocates who have drawn millions of young people, including soldiers into a destructive, immoral and unhealthy lifestyle."

"The homosexual community has sold the public their licentious lifestyle in the name of tolerance and freedom when they should be seeking to be freed from it. Ask the person dying from HIV if it was worth having hundreds of partners or if some of the millions who are enslaved to it would like to be free of it. We will find that the Bible warns against homosexuality not only because of the coming judgment, but that God wants people to be free from their bondage of sin through the gospel of Christ. Legitimizing homosexuality and trying to condone it as being natural does harm to the person trying to be free from it and the society that should not be tolerating it."

BFA, Biblical Family Advocates also agrees with the General's statement that homosexuality is like adultery as well and applauds his candor to put his country's safety above being popular.

Magnan continued, "Any sexual relationship outside of a heterosexual marriage is a form of adultery, just as those who practice sex outside of marriage with those of the opposite sex. Even Jesus Christ condemned all unlawful sexual relations. There is not one condoned homosexual relationship in the entire Bible. Even though I can commend every soldier for putting their lives on the line for our country, they should put the effectiveness of their unit over their personal desires."

http://www.earnedmedia.org/bfa0313.htm
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:24 PM
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1. Then why not kick out
all ADULTERERS? I'll tell you why, because the ranks would be decimated.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:30 PM
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7. *ding* *ding* *ding*, we have a winner!
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hardcore Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:57 PM
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14. They do
adultry is a courts marshal offence under the UCMJ and it has been used all across the rank spectrum. One general got booted several years ago for boinking a girlfriend while seperated before his divorce was final
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:13 PM
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18. Welcome to DU, hardcore. I'm DU's spelling nazi.
It's "court martial" not "court marshall"

'Martial' referring to the military, of course.

Welcome!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:43 PM
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21. This happens when the affair brings down morale or becomes public.
It doesn't happen to everyone.

Military brat here.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:25 PM
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2. HATE
Nothing but hate from them............so what is 'war' and this so called war on terra?

What is immoral is a President who lies, and illegally invades a Country based on those lies.

The Biblical Family advocates can take their bible and stuff it up their.........

Who are they to tell someone what is and what is not moral or immoral?


Let people live their lives.........




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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:26 PM
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3. WTH is a "Homosexual Advocacy Group"? Is that a part of the SecretGayAgenda™ I've heard about?
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 12:28 PM by dicksteele
Y'know, I can understand why some people choose to
reject reality and live in a fantasy world....
but why the hell would anyone want to live in
a fantasy as terrifying as the Fundies have created
for themselves?

Everyone and EVERYTHING is part of some sort of Satanic
plot against them, in their worldview. Everything that's
'different' is a serious threat. "Paranoid" just doesn't
quite describe it, because they CHOOSE to be this way.

What a SAD way to waste their lives.

I WASTE the greatest portion of my life, to be honest...
but I "waste" it in ways that make me happy and content,
not angry and afraid.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:27 PM
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4. Also. They can't wait to hightail it out of here in their "rapture"
Indeed a sad way to live your life.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:48 PM
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22. that's actually a good observation - paranoia. It really
does seem like it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:27 PM
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5. I wonder if Matt Sanchez is exempt?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:28 PM
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6. If homosexuality is like adultery, why do these bible thumpers like Dame Rudy
and Newt Gingrich so much? Oh wait, because they are total hypocrites.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:31 PM
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8. "applauds his candor to put his country's safety above being popular"
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 12:33 PM by FVZA_Colonel
How exactly can this sort of statement be squared with the dismissal of over ten thousand people from the military since Don't Ask, Don't Tell was created, thus costing us at least one hundred million dollars to retrain them, up to (at the upermost extremity) possibly three hundred million? How does this square with the (at least) fifty Arabic translators dismissed since the War in Iraq began? I would say that this sort of statement is, in fact, represents putting bigoted doctrines ahead of our national security.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:37 PM
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15. Does anybody have the stats on how many gays were discharged
BEFORE Don't Ask - Don't Tell?

For all the condemnation that DADT gets, it was supposed to be an improvement over the old system where the CID was actively working to expose and prosecute gays -- DADT was meant to keep gays from being harrassed out of the service.

Not that I'm defending DADT - it was a poor compromise that is past it's time, and it is time that gays should be allowed to serve openly. But 10,000 over 13 years seem awfully low, and I suspect that a lot more gays were kicked out prior to DADT.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:37 PM
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9. I wonder if Pace's comments are a timely, deliberate distraction...if so,
the tactic certainly seems to be working. When the going gets rough, pull out the wedge issues -and now the topic is all over the place.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:39 PM
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10. Christians concerned about adultery - stop, you're killing me
Hypocritical, hatefilled bastards who want no one to have constitutional liberties but them.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:41 PM
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11. thus spake the American Taliban
the war we should be fighting is against all monotheistic fundamentalism.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:45 PM
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12. Nothing but hatred, fearmongering and lies from them.
That's all they have to work with since they don't have truth and reality on their side.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:48 PM
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13. I would LMAO if all gays went AWOL
If this is what this country thinks they deserve after them giving their service and their lives fighting their illegal unnecessary wars,then the gays should GTFO.....let the homophobes fight their own damn wars. Nuff said.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:04 PM
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23. That would be divine
It would wake people up.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:40 PM
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16. No surprise - did you this thread I posted yesterday (explains a lot maybe...)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x397421

After that junk mail I got and posting that OP i started then to think as well about 'who the hell replies such junk mail?' and that scared me :)
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:50 PM
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17. The "truth"??? The arrogance of these people never ceases to amaze n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:38 PM
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19. Since when are hate, bigotry, and intolerance considered Christian values?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:39 PM
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20. Their right, he should not apologtize
HE SHOULD STEPP DOWN
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:08 PM
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24. "Christian Newswire"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:23 PM
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26. "Don't Ask. Don't Tell" ?
On what grounds are Homosexuals dismissed from the Military if it is found out that they are Homosexual but there is no proof that they have been engaged in sexual acts?

Homosexuals should be allowed to serve in the Military as openly Homosexual as they are allowed to do so in many other countries. America is still a regressive nation.
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samq79 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:17 PM
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25. You want to talk about morality and christian values?
Then stop being hateful, bigoted assholes. I can't stand hypocritical Christians who believe that homosexuality is a disease to be cured. It's not a lifestyle...it's not a choice. It is no more a disease than heterosexuality or, hell, Christianity for that matter.

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