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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:56 PM
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Poll question: Teacher/Student Sex
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 12:58 PM by tk2kewl
Certainly it is wrong for a teacher to engage in such activity. Even if the student is a HS senior.

When you were in HS was there sex going on between teachers and students in your school?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 12:58 PM
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1. How the hell should I know?
It wasn't in the school paper or anything.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:00 PM
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2. There has always been sex between teachers and students.
Always.

It's only a matter of whether or not a person is aware of it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:01 PM
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3. It has always happened
I consider a 16 or 17 yr old to be an inmature adult, not a mature child... so...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:03 PM
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7. Well, they're both.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:04 PM
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10. so...
do you think it is appropriate (or should not have consequences) for a so-called mature adult to engage sexual activity with in a position of authority over said immature adult student?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:05 PM
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11. There should be consequences
Because it is unethical. If you are a teacher, you should keep a distance between yourself and your students.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:46 PM
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37. It is unethical not only because of the age but because of the power
the teacher has over the student.

When I was in high school, forty five years ago, there was a lot of such activity and we were in a small town and every one knew.

1) young male teacher with senior girl, he was fired and they later married.

2) female gym teacher with several of her female team members. Reported by one girl who she was pursuing, and teacher was asked to resign, and she went to another school where her behavior continued, and the action was repeated, etc. Much the same action was taken as was against the pedophile priests at that time and same excuse, must protect children from others knowing.

3) middle aged female english teacher was known to have the football team over to her house every year, where she took a bubble bath for their entertainment. Nothing ever done until she was co-sponsor of a club, and one night the other sponsor came in unexpectedly to one of their meetings and found an orgy going on. She was let go, and nobody knew why, except everybody knew because the club was disbanded and the members talked.

Oh, we also had the pedophile priest that was an alcoholic who would get drunk and play the chimes through out the nights sometimes. I won't go into the activities of the regular folk that we knew about because of my father being a minister. It was just your average small town in good ole USA.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:01 PM
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4. One case I am certain of. (Male teacher/female student). Rumors of others.
I give no credence to HS rumors, of course. But the one
case I refer to was confirmed beyond doubt, and the teacher
was quietly fired without criminal charges being brought.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:02 PM
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5. Yes Male teacher, female student
and everyone knew about it, students and teachers.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:03 PM
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6. Other: male guidance counselor, female student
All the students knew about it. Nothing happened to him.
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:03 PM
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8. Both ways in my high school.
Male teachers dating girls; female teachers (one in particular had a reputation) dating boys.

In my opinion, it's never acceptable.

The state I live in (Indiana) has 16 as the age of consent. But if the older person is in a position of authority--like a teacher--the age of consent is effectively 18. Pretty sensible law, I think.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:03 PM
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9. Good laws in Indiana
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:06 PM
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12. That is a good caveat.
It pretty much effectively makes teacher/student relations illegal. But why not be explicit?
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:13 PM
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16. I think it's because the legislature was wary of specific definitions.
I can't believe I'm defending the Indiana legislature! Remember, they're the ones who would have blatantly Christian prayers before sessions (and I am a devout Christian).

The law is worded such that it applies to those situations where there is an instititutional power differential that would include teacher/student but would also include other relationships--like maybe coach/athlete, youth pastor/congregant, minister/server, etc.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:26 PM
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43. The law is the same in Minnesota regarding that. NT
NT
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:09 PM
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13. I would bet major money that it NEVER happened in my high school
at least not during the time I was there.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:11 PM
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15. Hell, if the school was over 200 kids, and in America, I'll take that bet.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:34 PM
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21. You'd lose. You mos' likely don't know about my time and place.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 04:49 PM
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38. If you are not over sixty one, then I would probably say you were
just not in the know. Or you live in a very, very straight laced town. Like Amish. ;-)
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:46 PM
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39. Not Amish, but a very small town in the South in the early 60's.
The possibility of sexual contact between a high school student and a teacher in my school was absolutely zero. If you had a different experience, you were in a different time or place, 'cause I'm sure about this one.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:57 PM
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40. You lucky ducky, or am I the lucky one
it sure made high school more interesting at times. But then again, I got out of gym due to an injury and to get away from my teacher who was going to make me shower in front of her. Not this baptist raised girl, especially when the other girls told me why.
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:02 PM
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28. Cool.
Why do you say that? I think it's pretty cool that you don't even think that's a possibility. I view that as a sign that you valued your school.

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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:41 PM
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29. It was a long time ago, in a relatively small (500) high school, and teachers
were never "hot." The lines in my home town were very clearly drawn between adults and kids, and until one was out of high school, one was a kid.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:46 PM
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32. What makes you think they'd have to be "hot"?...n/t
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:52 PM
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33. That would have been the only way a student would WILLINGLY
have sexual contact with a teacher. I used that phrase, however, to emphasize how different the world was when (and where) I was in high school.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:54 PM
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34. Your post made me think of Newt Gingrich...
his first wife was his former teacher, and apparently she was rather frumpy and old maidish, Newt was shy, unattractive and socially awkward, not your stereotypical teacher/student hook-up.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:10 PM
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14. My best friend in HS was raped by a teacher
in another state when she was 15. She was too ashamed to tell anyone about it, not that it would've done any good. This happened in the early 60s when rape laws were property laws and complaining would have gotten her months of a defense attorney attacking her as already damaged property, something no 15 year old needs.

So yes, it goes on and on and on. At least people are finally noticing.

Why the HELL these people can't wait until the kid they're hot over graduates is beyond me.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:24 PM
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17. I wish
I had an english teacher when I was a senior, she was like 22-23 and man was she ever hot!! :wow:

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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:24 PM
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18. I never heard about if it did happen in my school
Not to say it didn't happen. But if it did, it didn't happen with anyone I was familiar with during my time there.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:26 PM
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19. Yeah, my 30 something Anat/Physiology
female teacher was banging a male senior. It was a Catholic HS too, classic.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:27 PM
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20. Was she a nun?
:evilgrin:
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:42 PM
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25. Hehe, now that would have been even better
no... she was a divorced lonely lady who enjoyed 18 year olds.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:47 PM
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27. in case you missed this one this morning - it's a hoot
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:22 PM
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42. LOL
hillarious...ty
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:34 PM
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22. Male teacher from my school/female student from another school
So he wasn't her teacher and he was only five years older than her and she was 18...:shrug: People gossiped but nobody got into trouble.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:35 PM
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23. Our gay male soccer coach got caught in a relationship with a 17-YO student
He got so fired it was almost unbelievable.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:39 PM
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24. My late stepfather's first wife was his teacher.
:shrug:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:42 PM
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30. So was Newt Gingrich's!...n/t
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:43 PM
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26. In my small hometown in Kansas
Edited on Tue Mar-13-07 01:44 PM by TlalocW
The business teacher (male) and a female student married after she graduated. They were probably together beforehand, but they kept it on the down-low. As far as I know they're still together. There really wasn't that big an age difference between them though - 6 years at the most. He was a young teacher.

The vocal music teacher (hot blonde female) was rumored to have slept with a few senior boys. She left before I got up there, and I probably wouldn't have been on her list anyway. :)

TlalocW
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 02:44 PM
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31. This has been going on since there were students and teachers..
it's not news, no matter how much the MSM wants us to believe it is.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:06 PM
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35. In any case where there's a power inequity, it's a breach of ethics
Whether it should be illegal and/or what the consequences should be depend on the individual case- and perhaps the genders.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 03:52 PM
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36. Female teacher/female student. Have no idea whether they
did the nasty while the student was still in HS, but when she graduated and was 18, she moved in with the teacher. My favorite teacher, too. She was great. I have to give her the benefit of the doubt and say she probably waited.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:58 PM
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41. It could have been all over my school...
...and I wouldn't have had a clue. I lived in my own little world. Still do, come to think of it. :)

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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:27 PM
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44. Thats scarry to think about
I went to a catholic school with 80 yr old nuns. I hope there was nothing goin on......
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:35 PM
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45. My friend Jeff was getting frequent BJs from our English (male) teacher.
A few of us knew but nobody seemed to care. We were seniors, Jeff was 18, I was 17. Year 1959...no big deal.
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