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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:34 AM
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Does anyone have a link to U.S. attorney firings by other Presidents?
Did the shrub fire all of them in 2001? How about his old man? Nixon? Reagan? My understanding is that such wholesale firings/resignations are standard WHEN A NEW PRESIDENT TAKES OFFICE, but are damned near unprecedented in mid-term. However, I can\'t actually locate any hard facts and figures. I am sick of the all-too-predictable bleating by the RW noise machine (Clinton! Clinton! Clinton!) and I want to hit back, but I want to be sure of my facts.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:35 AM
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1. I heard on NPR this morning that Nison fired one,
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 08:37 AM by malta blue
Clinton one, Carter one, but 8 is bordering on unprecedented. Here is the link to the story I heard:http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8356415

on edit: add link
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:15 AM
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6. Nixon had three AG's.
Nixon's first AG... Mitchel IIRC... quit at the end of Nixon's first term to run CREP (the Committee to Re-Elect the President).

His replacement ended up resigning in the wake of the Watergate investigation. The third continued to serve under Ford.

As for regular sitting judges, I have no idea. But the way the Dubya Administration has been mimicking the path Nixon took, let's all pray Shrub likewise starts on his third AG before his impeachment in the middle of his second term.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:45 AM
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2. think progress website also
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:54 AM
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3. I posted that a couple of days ago. There have been a total of 5 in the past
25 years. A couple had to do with illegal or immoral behavior on the part of the attorney. It was in a Q & A about the current firings on Yahoo.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:14 AM
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5. My main question is what did past Presidents do upon taking office.
Clinton is getting beaten up for instituting pretty much of a clean sweep immediately upon assuming office. I am trying to find what other Presidents did right after coming into office so I can compare apples to apples.
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rockyandmax Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:58 AM
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7. read this
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:46 AM
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9. What a piece of bull! They don't find anything wrong with firing USAs for
doing their jobs!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:44 AM
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8. You haven't been keeping up. Yes, the replacement of USAs has happened before
when a new administration takes over. It did with Ronnie, George I, and GWB, as well as Clinton.

You should be reading this instead of that other link posted in answer here:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/cats/us_attorneys/


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Bush I Assistant AG, Stuart Gerson, in today's WaPo online chat ...

"It is customary for a President to replace U.S. Attorneys at the beginning of a term. Ronald Reagan replaced every sitting U.S. Attorney when he appointed his first Attorney General. President Clinton, acting through me as Acting AG, did the same thing, even with few permanent candidates in mind."

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/cats/us_attorneys/
Karl Rove,
"Look, by law and by Constitution (sic), these attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president and traditionally are given a four year term. And Clinton, when he came in, replaced all 93 U.S. attorneys. When we came in, we ultimately replace most all 93 U.S. attorneys – there are some still left from the Clinton era in place. We have appointed a total of I think128 U.S. attorneys -- that is to say the original 93, plus replaced some, some have served 4 years, some served less, most have served more. Clinton did 123. I mean, this is normal and ordinary.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:56 AM
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4. No. You only go as far back as Clinton.
Clinton Clinton Clinton. :)
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:49 AM
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10. Heres' something good on Clinton
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/16897325.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation

"Current situation is distinct from Clinton firings of U.S. attorneys
McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration and its defenders like to point out that President Bush isn't the first president to fire U.S. attorneys and replace them with loyalists.

While that's true, the current case is different. Mass firings of U.S. attorneys are fairly common when a new president takes office, but not in a second-term administration. Prosecutors are usually appointed for four-year terms, but they are usually allowed to stay on the job if the president who appointed them is re-elected.

Even as they planned mass firings by the Bush White House, Justice Department officials acknowledged it would be unusual for the president to oust his own appointees. Although Bill Clinton ordered the wholesale removal of U.S. attorneys when he took office to remove Republican holdovers, his replacement appointees stayed for his second term.

Ronald Reagan also kept his appointees for his second term... "

more at link
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 11:52 AM
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11. this Duke Law Journal article has some good info
http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?50+Duke+L.+J.+1687

Scan down to Section I b of the article
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