Why can't democrats elect a mayor in NYC?
WI_DEM
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Wed Mar-14-07 12:52 PM
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Why can't democrats elect a mayor in NYC? |
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is it that we don't ever get very good candidates or what? Just curious. It's been a long time since there was a Dem mayor in a highly democratic city. And yes, I know that Bloomberg is a former Democrat.
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saltpoint
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:00 PM
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1. Rudy slipped in for a couple terms and did the Disneyfication of Times |
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Square thing, and Bloomberg barely defeated Mark Green in the next race after Giuliani, then coasted to a strong win for his second term.
No conservative Republican can be elected there -- both Giuliani and Bloomberg had to have far more liberal positions to be elected than Republicans would almost anyplace else in the country.
And I think next time a Democrat will take it by a wide margin.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:05 PM
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2. Glad you think so, Old Crusoe |
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Bloomberg is more liberal than Guiliani, I believe? He's been between both parties.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:11 PM
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3. Yep. I was hoping Mark Green would pull that one out with Bloomberg. |
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Didn't happen.
We'll git 'em next time.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:12 PM
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4. Isn't Bloomberg a Dem who switched over to the GOP |
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so that he could run for mayor?
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:13 PM
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Only in a city like NY can someone like Bloomberg be a Republican. Any where else he'd be a gay communist!
:rofl: :rofl:
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lisa58
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:12 PM
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5. The last two mayors (Guliani & Bloomberg) were democrats... |
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...they just changed parties to run. A "real" republican would never win in nyc.
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WI_DEM
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:18 PM
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7. still why can't we elect someone who actually runs as a democrat? |
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why did they feel they had to change their party id to run for Mayor of a heavily democratic city?
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lisa58
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:27 PM
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8. Bloomberg had megabucks and beat... |
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...Mark Green by using 9/11 as a scare tactic and Guliani won not because he was a republican but because he broke up the mob when he was attorney general.
They changed parties, I believe, because they didn't have the party support - they were not the heir apparent so they gamed the system.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:31 PM
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9. so are you saying the NYC Dems tried to strongarm out popular candidates... |
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and ended up getting Republicans elected as a result?
That speaks very poorly of party leadership, if true.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:33 PM
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...and partly the Republicans recruiting the likes of Guliani and Bloomberg because they were not politically active before and didn't rise through the ranks of the democratic party.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:33 PM
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10. Because the last Dem was a disaster for this city, |
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Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 01:34 PM by shield20
and Rudy's victory perfectly coincided so he could ride the wave of nationwide crime reduction at the same time he took EFFECTIVE steps in bringing down NYCs. - i.e. actually penalizing CRIMINALS.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:51 PM
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12. Part of the reason is the |
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constant infighting with factions within the Democratic party in NYC. It's about the power and each faction wants their control. This lets the liberal type R's get in office.
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:53 PM
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13. Touch screen 'voting' machines? n/t |
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Wed Mar-14-07 01:55 PM
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14. Also, Al Sharpton usually intervenes at the last minute, and pushes... |
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for the most conservative of the bunch, to repay Roger Stone and his ilk.
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