gwb43.com ???

[RobertSeattle]

Notice that several of the "purge" emails came from this domain rather than whitehouse.gov? Looks like some of the White House staff is using a non .gov email service to escape discovery - it is "owned" by the RNC. Looks like this service is hosted by SMARTech Corp.

Looks like they'd login from this site or something similar to it:

http://mail.smartechcorp.net/webmail/index.pl

Here's an article I found on
http://www.smartechcorp.net/index.php?page=news&sub=story&id=68

Now if we had a mole within SmarTech corp who has access to the backup tapes... :-)

[Donnachaidh]

1. I think perhaps someone should have Mr. Leahy ask WHY they

are using an email server FUNDED by the RNC.

After all, if they are doing government business, shouldn't they be using a government server?

[POAS]

3. Further proof that this was for

political and not personnel reasons.

[POAS]

2. AND there are always backups!

[FatDave]

17. Not necessarily

Whether or not there are backups depends on a number of factors.

For instance, I get my mail from a POP account on a hosted server. I have my mail client set up to check for new mail every 5 minutes, download new messages, and delete downloaded messages from the server. My mail client is nearly always running, so when it is any email would sit on the server for a maximum of 5 minutes. Obviously, only what's on the server at the time of the backup (most likely done nightly) will ever make it into the backup. This would mean only the tiniest percentage of my mail has ever been backed up by my hosting company. If you really want to see what's in my email, you'll need my computer. And if I had something incriminating on it and it looked like it could be exposed, I'd wipe my hard disks clean.

Of course there's companies who specialize in data restoration who can get at data even after it's been overwritten multiple times...

But if they're using web-based mail (which they would be stupid to do and therefore probably were) then yes, it all stayed on the server unless they specifically deleted it (which most people don't do because they want a record for their own purposes). In that case, it was most likely all backed up.

[POAS]

25. I agree with your correction.

Somewhere it is probable that in the case here, where a combination of government and private networks are involved, that at some point an automatic backup occurred.

Thanks for the correction, I'll qualify in the future that it is possible or probable that backups exist somewhere.

[hootinholler]

30. No Problem

Word on the treet is the NSA's got them. I wonder if that subpeona would be fullfilled?

-Hoot

[markbark]

42. Indeed...

Of course there's companies who specialize in data restoration who can get at data even after it's been overwritten multiple times...

In fact, the only SURE way to prevent data recovery from hard drives is to physically destroy the platters.

--MAB

[POAS]

4. Do you have a link

showing and confirming which emails were from or to the RNC site?

I'd like to email my rep with hard evidence and not hearsay.

[RobertSeattle]

7. Josh Marshall seems to be top dog on this story right now

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/sampson-jennings/?resultpage=1&

[e-mail]

[POAS]

8. Thanks

[RobertSeattle]

9. More the the house.gov site (not yet google indexed)

http://judiciary.house.gov/
The right bottom pane has links to 4 pdfs - might be the same as at TPM site.

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJdocsPt1070313.pdf
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJdocsPt2070313.pdf
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJdocsPt3070313.pdf
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJdocsPt4070313.pdf

[POAS]

11. I just read Josh Marshall's

docs that you linked. It is quite incredible that they openly discussed internal personnel matters of the AG's office on unsecured non-gov email system.

It is equally astounding that personnel matters are at the least being coordinated with political hacks.

[RobertSeattle]

13. Is some of the text highlighted or poorly done redaction?

In example, if you go to this pdf:
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJdocsPt1070313.pdf

and the go to page 16 - you can easily read whatever is highlighted or redacted. Of course, redacted text is always the juicy stuff!

[POAS]

12. Just now looking at first link

A pdf that is 25 pages long---much more than Josh posted.

I guess I'll be busy for awhile this afternoon.

Thanks again.

Everybody K&R this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[robinlynne]

10. go to house.judiciary.gov. ALL the emails are there. if you go through them

you will have all the eveidence you need.

[RobertSeattle]

14. Note the FAILED REDACTIONS (!!!)

There text on several of the documents that can easily be read even though someone seems to have tried to black it out!

[POAS]

16. Almost looks like they were scanned with a backlight

[keepCAblue]

49. "Server not found"

Is the link bad or have they taken the site down?

[Monkeyman]

5. Thanks sent this to a contact in Washington

[City Lights]

6. RobertSeattle, you should send this information to the media

and pertinent Democrats (if you haven't already done so).

Great find! :applause:

[solara]

15. k&r Keep this going

:kick: :kick: :kick: Excellent work!



INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT INCARCERATE :patriot:

[POAS]

18. Come on DU just one more Rec to

Greatest page.

[POAS]

19. Check this out

Seems like they lined up all their talking points early

[jtrockville]

31. What a bunch of cowards! (nt)

[chefgirl]

20. Check me if I'm wrong...

I seem to remember KKKarl using a similar trick more than once in his illustrious career. IIRC, once was when his office was 'allegedly' bugged during the little idiot's gubernatorial campaign. There were emails of questionable origin then too, I believe.

That said, I could be wrong about that being the particular incident, but my point is, we've played this game before.

-chef-

[POAS]

22. You remember correctly

In the previous case Rove "Bugged" his own office. Had it "discovered" and then blamed it on the Dems.

Here however we have internal communications with NO link to Democratic sources. What is within these hundred(s) of pages are the planning of the AG purge from beginning to end.

Certainly there is much more to discover that is NOT contained here but there are many trails to follow here.

I'm sure the Judiciary committe staff are hard on the trail and good net-roots like Josh Marshall will keep us all aware and hopefully active!

[MagickMuffin]

35. Correction: It was NOT the little idot's gubernatorial campaign

It was Bill Clements he worked for at that time, 1986 to be exact. But the game remains the same.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A78792

[Sydnie]

21. I posted about that yesterday myself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=406572&mesg_id=406894

Not one response about it there though. I thought I was the only one that caught it.

[POAS]

23. Must have been while I was golfing........;-)

[soulcore]

24. Page 23 says it all.

"(remember the premise: AG has ordered it)?"

[City Lights]

26. Nice catch, soulcore!

Looks like the AG dug himself a bigger hole yesterday afternoon. So much for being out of the loop!

[Patsy Stone]

27. I noticed this last night

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=401509&mesg_id=405811

I found it hard to believe no one responded to this juicy tidbit. Thanks for posting. Recommended.

[BuyingThyme]

28. Wow! Gore's fund raising from the WH was nothing compared to this!

These punks turned the U.S. Justice Department into a campaign operation, plain and simple.

This is the ultimate in political corruption. Game over.

[vogonity]

29. Help me out understanding these document releases...

As secretive as this bunch is, why exactly did they release this stuff? Did media request it or is it some kind of FOIA thing or what? It seeems tthat they might want to have some sort of "server failure" or something. Especially since it appears that they were using non-government servers and such. I mean what's the point if they just release these documents anyway?

[POAS]

36. The House Judiciary committee made a formal

request. I don't know if a subpoena was involved, though I think not!

[blogslut]

32. Here's my thinking

I think Smartech is more of an outsource/enterprise-type deal. No doubt, the domain is indeed registered to the RNC but it's not hosted on the RNC server. My guess is that gwb43.com is strictly an email server and that the RNC is outsourcing that to Smartech.

Maybe tomorrow, I'll call up Smartech and just plain ask them about that domain.

You know what I always find interesting when I do a reverse IP lookup on the RNC server? All the interesting domains that are there and when typed in a browser, always redirect to the main GOP site. Here's just a few of the 123 domain names registered to the RNC:

flippercam.com
iamaliberal.com
johnkerryliberalrecord.com
kerryliberalrecord.com
mytaxrefund.org
republicrooks.com
your-congress.com
youthforbush.com

Here's the way cool part, since I last did a reverse IP lookup for the RNC, they've added a new domain and oh...it's a doozy


Wait for it


www.barackosama2008.org

Go on. Give it a try. Type it in the address bar of your browser. See what happens...:)

[City Lights]

33. Nice find!

They're so clever. :eyes:

:mad:

[blogslut]

34. The more I play

...the more I find

Apparently Smartech is handling all the RNC server stuff. Probably the RNC has their server housed at Smartech. I'm still guessing the gwb43 domain was used for email and was probably never turned into a site.

:)

[POAS]

37. If it was ever a site

it isn't as of tonight.

I believe your correct that it is basically a mail drop.

Any idea on the ownership of Smartech?

[blogslut]

38. Found some stuff

Off the smartech site here's a news piece about them hosting all the GOP sites:

http://www.smartechcorp.net/index.php?page=news&sub=story&id=68

The owner's name is Jeff Averbeck and here's his political donations according to newsmeat:

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Chattanooga&st=TN&last=Averbeck&first=Jeff

Averbeck donated over $2300.00 to the RNC in the past four years.

[Generic Brad]

39. Does this mean Bush is no longer the master of his domain?

:o

[Senator]

40. Here's something that popped out of the google cache for gwb43.net

A list of sites connected to concedenowkerry.com.

Seems they were prepared, like in 2000, to try to force a concession should the theft not come off as planned.

No surprise there.

--

[Nikki Stone1]

41. The RNC is a criminal outfit

Totally thwarting the will of the people

[helderheid]

43. !!!

:wow:

[133724]

44. WHOIS

Visit AboutUs.org for more information about GWB43.COM AboutUs: GWB43.COM

Registrant: Make this info private
Republican National Committee
310 First Street SE
Washington, DC 20003
US

Domain Name: GWB43.COM

Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
Republican National Committee
[e-mail]
310 First Street SE
Washington, DC 20003
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Record expires on 16-Jan-2008
Record created on 16-Jan-2004
Database last updated on 11-Oct-2006

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS1.CHA.SMARTECHCORP.NET
A.NS.TRESPASSERS-W.NET

Show underlying registry data for this record


Current Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
IP Address: 1.1.1.1 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: -(-)
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: Indeterminate
Lock Status: clientTransferProhibited
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Secure: No
E-commerce: No
Traffic Ranking: Not available
Data as of: 14-Jun-2005

[133724]

45. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[133724]

46. !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[133724]

47. From the Secretary of State's Website: Who is Jerre B Mosley????

Name

I.D. Number
SMARTECH CORPORATION

0422274

Business Type*: CORPORATION
Profit/Nonprofit: FOR PROFIT
Status*: ACTIVE
Date of Formation/Qualification: 02/20/2002
Domestic/Foreign: DOMESTIC
Place of Incorporation/Organization: HAMILTON
Duration: PERPETUAL
FYC(Fiscal Year Closing) Month: DECEMBER

Principal Office:
Address Line 1: 705 WINDY WAY
Address Line 2:
City: SIGNAL MOUNTAIN
State: TN
Zip: 37377
Other than USA:

Registered Agent:
Name: JERRE B MOSLEY
Address Line 1: 537 MARKET STREET
Address Line 2:
City: CHATTANOOGA
State: TN
Zip: 37402





Business Name

I.D. Number

Status
SMARTECH CORPORATION

0422274

ACTIVE

Document
Reference

Date

Filing
Type

Filing
Action
4422-1820

02/20/2002

CHARTER

4876-0967

04/01/2003

ANNUAL RPT FILED

07/31/2003
ROLL 4845

06/20/2003

NOTICE OF DETERMINATION

5069-2942

04/01/2004

ANNUAL RPT FILED

03/17/2004
5343-2128

01/28/2005

ANNUAL REPORT W/REG OFFICE/AGENT CHANGE

Registered Office Changed
5343-2128

04/01/2005

ANNUAL RPT FILED

01/28/2005
5727-2174

04/01/2006

ANNUAL RPT FILED

03/22/2006

04/01/2007

ANNUAL RPT ISSUED

[DemReadingDU]

48. CREW: White House Breaking Records Law?

A number of readers have written to point out that Karl Rove's deputy at the White House, Scott Jennings, used an outside domain, gwb43.com, for his emails. The domain, it turns out, is owned by the Republican National Committee.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002771.php


CREW ASKS FOR HOUSE INVESTIGATION INTO WHITE HOUSE VIOLATIONS OF PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT
http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=214

[libodem]

50. This incest is so depraved

No wonder Republicans say they hate Government. This is sickening.