Hillary sidesteps (as does Obama) on morality of Homosexuality

[illinoisprogressive]

I just saw a post before mine about Edward's views but, this article I'm posting is in no way a bash Hillary intention to it. It's just to illustrate my frustration with these guys and they not taking a stand on homosexuality. My candidate, Obama, even sidestepped the question today, of which I'm disappointed.
I don't understand what the problem is. These guys are ducking a question that should be perfectly easy to answer: Homosexuality is not immoral. But, they duck out. Except for Edwards of which I tip my hat on this subject to.
Here is the article I copied just to illustrate how the candidates are acting like fools.
Asked if she believed homosexuality was immoral, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton declined to answer the question in a television interview this morning and said it was for “others to conclude.”

General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in a recent interview that he personally believed homosexuality was immoral and that this view was a factor in his opposition to gays serving openly in the military.

Mrs. Clinton, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, supports allowing gays to serve, which would amount to a change in her husband’s “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. She has also been aggressively courting gay voters and groups in recent weeks. Some gay groups have been critical of Mrs. Clinton’s refusal to support gay marriage, however, though she does support civil unions.

Asked on ABC News today if she agreed with General Pace’s view that homosexuality was immoral, Mrs. Clinton said: “Well I’m going to leave that to others to conclude.” She added, “I’m very proud of the gays and lesbians I know who perform work that is essential to our country, who want to serve their country and I want make sure they can.”

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[eleny]

1. What did Obama do?

I haven't heard yet.

[illinoisprogressive]

2. After the Fireman speech on his way to his car he was asked 3 times

if he thought Homosexuality was immoral. He tried to blow it off all 3 times. I was so disappointed. I am hoping that he just was not in the mood to talk because I heard he seemed really tired at the speech today. But, I will continue my support for him but, I just don't see why these guys are blowing it off and not standing up for the gay community.

[aquart]

5. So you want him to fall into a trap they can use to pick him off.

Fine by me.

[Moochy]

10. The Dreaded TRUTH trap!

Ack!

[msongs]

12. stand for nothing, fall for anything nt

[eleny]

6. The word "no" doesn't take long to say

I'm disappointed, too. Hope he gets it together and has something to say about this very soon. I'm really appreciating Edwards on this issue. In the end, it's going to be the issues for me. This super lengthy primary season might be good for us voters in the end.

[RagingInMiami]

3. What did Edwards say?

[eleny]

8. Here ya go

The interview with Blitzer quoted here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3162436

[aquart]

4. So Hillary refused to be a minister, unlike Pace who needs a career change.

I would prefer NOT to hear declarations of what is and is not "moral" from my president or the candidates for the job. From my president, I want to hear what is CONSTITUTIONAL.

These are the trap questions "they" use to pick off candidates. I don't give a shit what Hillary thinks is "moral." Or Obama. Or Edwards. I want to know how they plan to interpret and enforce the CONSTITUTION of the United States for the benefit of the American people.

[purduejake]

9. Good point.

But there should still be no issues with answering the question. Would she answer "Do you think it's immoral to be black/asian/indian?" This is ridiculous and we shouldn't be making an issue of it... a simple NO would have sufficed.

[donco6]

15. Exactly.

There'd be no equivocating on that. It only goes to show that they don't equate the two - therefore they must believe there IS something immoral about being gay.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. But, I wish they would take a stand. I don't think anyone would be picked off

for saying it's not immoral.

[Cobalt Violet]

11. They side step on just about every issue.

I wish they would have some courage and take a stand once in a while.

[stillcool]

13. It boggles the mind..

a year and a half away, and already those who at this moment represent 'all the people' of their respective states get tongue-tied over the right of a human being to be? And the echo chamber is more concerned with 'their' candidates image, than the degradation of a society. I suppose in a couple of years it will be considered 'appropriate' to say there is nothing immoral about anyone's sexuality. Maybe around that time it might also be acceptable to say that waging war on human beings for what lies beneath their land is not nice. The entire spectacle is a sight to behold.

[DearAbby]

14. It is not their place to say anything is immoral or not

Morality is a personal matter, should not be a political issue. I applaud all canidates who refuse to fall into this trap. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Their private beliefs are private.

[orleans]

16. i disagree--they were asked for their opinion, no one told them

they were going to have the final "morality" say on this topic--they were just asked for their opinion

and as far as "Their private beliefs are private" well, maybe not anymore--not after bush. bush has proven that knowing a candidates "private beliefs" are extremely important.

[DearAbby]

23. I understand what you are saying

Maybe I should back up. I am thinking about other "moral" issues. I am thinking about Kerry...and the abortion issue (forgive me for opening that can of worms)remember how they "burned him at the stake" for that.

I believe gays have every right, as anyone else, personally. Created equal. I just want the best chances for Democrats to win in 08.

Is this the time to make this an issue, or distraction?

[Bronyraurus]

17. Bullshit

Have some balls, show some leadership. That a big part of being a leader, you know.

[frankenforpres]

18. Why does it matter???

before you scream at me, here is my point. it doesnt matter what they think is moral, it matters what they legislate.

[MasterDarkNinja]

19. It's disappointing yes, they could have made pretty safe progay comments

They should have said something like "everyone who is willing and able to serve our nation in combat should be allowed to, regardless of sexuality", or that gay soldiers are all the good things that the rest of our heroic troops are, and we shouldn't be calling some of our troops immoral and kicking them out of the army because of their sexuality, especially when a lot of our troops are on their 3rd or 4th tour of Iraq, more troops means the people in the army can come home more often and longer.

They should leave it at that though, because if they get into a debate about the morality of homosexuality the sad news is that we lose because a majority of americans are homophobic. :(

[burrowowl]

20. Are you surprised!

I'm not they are both DLCers.
Richardson has stood up for GLBT in NM, as has Lt. Gove. Denish.

[Telly Savalas]

22. Obama is not a DLCer.

This has been pointed out here so many times, it's really puzzling why folks keep trying to repeat this lie.

[WinkyDink]

21. What do sexual preferences/needs/call them what you will have to do with

ANY job outside the sex industry ones?
"I'm very proud of the gays....I know...." WTH?? Are you "proud of" the heterosexuals you know? Oh, wait; don't answer that.

Maybe we SHOULD post the Ten Commandments everywhere; they, at least, don't condemn homosexuality.