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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:26 PM
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Kangaroo Court Alert: 'I was responsible for 9/11, from A to Z'- a confession from Guantánamo Bay
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 09:27 PM by 133724
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged number three in al-Qaida, confessed to planning the attacks on New York and Washington on September 11 2001, in front of the secret military tribunals being held for the top detainees in Guantánamo, the Pentagon said last night.

The apparent confession was contained in a 26-page transcript of the Combatant Status Review Tribunal hearing of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, which the Pentagon released last night as part of the procedures of the closed-door sessions with 14 terror suspects. Mohammed has long been alleged to have played a key role in the conceiving and organising of 9/11, but never before has there been what is said to be his own admission.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,,2034383,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1

On Edit: How much waterboarding did it take to get the confession?????

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:31 PM
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1. Believe that and I 'll sell you cheney's castle on the Cheaspeake Bay
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:04 PM
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8. Do you have any evidence that he's not responsible?
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:08 PM
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9. Does the Phrase "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" mean anything???? n/t
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:25 PM
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10. What does that mean?
This article is about a confession, not a trial.
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:48 PM
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13. not if you beat the crap out of him....
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 10:51 PM by 133724
On Edit:

This is a military tribunal.

They can kill this guy.

No trial, no defense, no attorney.

get the message?????
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:52 PM
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14. A confession obtained under torture.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 10:49 AM
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27. How do you know?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 05:53 AM
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22. Do you have evidence that he is responsible? n/t
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 10:49 AM
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28. The confession.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:10 AM
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25. Do you have any evidence that he *is* responsible?
He's been held for years in a secret prison, tortured and now confessess at a closed tribunal through a military "representative".

Of course he may be implicated, but let's see the evidence in the light of day. What is there to hide?

And while they're at it let's try the 9/11 financiers in open court too. Oh, I forgot - they're connected to Bushco allies so we don't talk about them.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 10:50 AM
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29. How do we know that he was tortured?
Agreed on the Saudis.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 11:59 AM
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30. To be honest
I only know as much as I read here on DU. Apparently there has been an official acknwoledgement that he was waterboarded.

However, I think the bottom line is whether you agree with a system of due process open to public scrutiny or a closed military system overseen by a Unitary Executive...the latter is simply a matter of faith in B*sh and his cronies to do the right thing, which to me sounds more like the "Caliphate" that we're told be terrified of, than like the traditional American way.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:09 PM
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31. I don't think that KSM
is entitled to the benefits of America's justice system or the Geneva Conventions.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 03:54 AM
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32. Well
I believe the 9/11 hijackers had inside help so I would prefer a more transparent system. Otherwise if there were double-agents who facilitated the attack we'll never know.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:33 PM
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2. Everyone knows-well, nearly everyone-
that a double negative creates a positive. Not so well known is that a double positive can make a negative, as in the reply to this convenient announcement. Yeah, right.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:37 PM
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3. When I heard this on the news...
... I wondered if he copped to the Lindbergh kidnapping, too. And the Brinks job. And he shot J.R., too. And Tupac.

I'm not sure he did anything. First, torture sometimes brings out a very "cooperative" attitude. Second, he could be delusional...."I'm the mastermind... It's all me!" Third, he could be admitting responsibility to shelter people still on the loose.

Oh, he's a bad guy, and an asshole, but why should I have any confidence in the material the US beats out of people at Gitmo?



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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:41 PM
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4. So he masterminded the complex, detailed 9/11 plot and the
'93 Twin Towers bombing for which somebody else has already served 10 years in the federal pen (do we owe him an apology?) as well as the incredibly devious 'shoe-bomber' plot.

Why do I have trouble buying that?
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:34 PM
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12. Don't forget Daniel Pearl's murder.
He's everywhere, man! He's like the Forrest Gump of terrorism!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:41 PM
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5. At last, BushCo has a scapegoat, check for cigarette burns on his ass
...rubber hose marks on his back, number, condition and location of his testicles, water in his lungs, number and shape of finger nails and toenails and fractured bones in feet and hands. As Alberto Gonzalez has repeatedly stated, it isn't torture, it is just lack of comfort.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:47 PM
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6. And considering the source of this information,
we might as well also believe that I, anotheryellowdog, am the father of Anna Nicole's baby. God! Don't I wish I had that memory!



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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:52 PM
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7. Golly
what exciting news! That sure answers all my questions about 9/11. Case closed.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:26 PM
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11. From A to Z is an American colloquialism like 'whole ball of wax'. I don't believe a word of it.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:18 AM
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17. He was obviously 'channeling' Cheney! n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 10:54 PM
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15. They caught the #3 in al-Qaeda?
Weeellll, say no more!

They've caught enough of them, they should know!
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 02:44 AM
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16. 500 years ago...
...He would be confessing to kissing the devils backside, consorting with familiars, trampling the crucifix and saying socially unacceptable things about the pope. Boy, we've come a long way.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:26 AM
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18. yeah, kinda smells -- lots of questions
The FBI was closely involved in his arrest in Rawalpindi in March 2003 and along with the CIA took over his detention and interrogation in secret locations.


he was arrested in MARCH 2003 and we're just hearing about the confession now?

Why wait this long to release the confession?

Did it take the CIA 4 years to waterboard the confession out of him?

At what point in time did he confess? Before or after we invaded Iraq?

What impact would his confession have on the White House Lies about Saddam/al-qeada/9-11 connections?

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 07:13 AM
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26. Yes. Good point.
And surely there needs to be a new 9/11 Commission to take advantage of all the new information he has revealed.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:45 AM
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19. Or, perhaps, this dude has a big ego
and wants the world to think he's a badass, claiming credit for things he didn't do.

Just playing devil's advocate because this occured to me.

But I suspect your version is probably truer.

Tortured confessions aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:54 AM
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20. "I was tortured with instruments from A to Z."
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 05:09 AM
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21. He was in a secret CIA Prison.
That is the clue to his "confession".
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 06:06 AM
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23. And he got the American military to stand down how?
The lack of reaction is the key to the crime.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 06:34 AM
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24. ABC NEWS admits that KSM lasted the longest under waterboarding
The good news is that since KSM has confessed to everything from "who shot JR" to the JFK assassination, I guess that we can repeal the Patriot Act- there is no need to spy on us because KSM is obviously the only evil person who hates our freedom. Also, we can bring our troops home now, because we have caught him.
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