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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 12:58 PM
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It's Official !!! California moves its Primary
up to Feb 5 2008. Arnold Schwarzenegger just officially
announced. This can mean Primaries are over and
our Candidate is known on Super Tuesday, Feb 5.

According to B Schneider, other large states
are considering the same action--NJ NY Fla
to name a few. As more states with large numbers
of delegates join the change--it becomes a National
Primary and each party's candidate is selected.

Addvantages---Larger States are given opportunity
to participate more actively in deciding who
our Candidate is.

Disadvantage depending on your opinion. Limits
Candidates. Only candidates with large amts of
Cash can particpate. 2ond and lower tier
candidates had just as well drop out. If there
is anyone considering entering and has money, money
money, they had better get in soon or it will be too
late.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:01 PM
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1. Well, reach deep and fund your choice because the candidate
with the money is going to buy the lion's share of the on-air time.

I hate it when we're manipulated by the monied forces rather than ideas within our own party.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:03 PM
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6. I hate it when the monied forces become the ideas within our own party... n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:12 PM
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11. Yeah, that too.
:yoiks:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:01 PM
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2. So much for democracy
"Only candidates with large amts of
Cash can particpate. 2ond and lower tier
candidates had just as well drop out."

:(

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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:11 PM
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21. Welcome to the New, Improved Plutocracy!
If you thought it was bad before, well it's ALL about money now. This plays right into the hands of corporatists and plutocrats, the ruthless and the supergreedy. Yuk!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:01 PM
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3. this is not a good thing,
especially if other large states follow suite. This effectively knocks all the 2nd tier candidates out of the race - they just won't have the money to compete in the large media markets of states like California.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:02 PM
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Will Obama's California popularity lead him to victory?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:02 PM
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4. Money is going to kill our Democracy and any sense of fairness.
nt
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:39 PM
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13. Too late
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:03 PM
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5. Hmmm...do we really want the people in the state who put Ahnold
in the Governor's mansion to decide who our candidates are going to be from this point forward?

Not so sure that's a great thing for the rest of America.

I want elections to become publicly funded. We need to get rid of these big bucks candidates who have their hands in thousands of special interest and lobbyist pockets.

We need people in office who AREN'T POLITICIANS. And the only way that's ever going to happen is to give the little guy with no money a chance.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:04 PM
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7. Kansas just announced the results of their primary: Brownback won!
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:05 PM
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8. Another disadvantage. We will not see lower tier candidates in debates and we will not
hear their ideas.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:07 PM
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9. Good.
The problem with the drawn-out primary season is it does a lot of the Repukes' work for them,

After six months of mud, the R's already know how to go after our candidate.

I don't see the money thing as a disadvantage, because in the 2004 system we lost most of our candidates due to lack of funds. Running for president is expensive.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:08 PM
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10. I like this.
I think the second tiers can have a chance IF they can dump all of their money in our basket... the delegates from our state could be enought to propel a strong finish in the later primaries.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:12 PM
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12. What later primaries?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:41 PM
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14. Great. Now they are running for President of California
:eyes:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 01:46 PM
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15. On the bright side. Better West Coast liberals tnan red state moderates.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 02:52 PM
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16. I don't really see that as a bright side.
More overtly liberal candidates are likelier to get hammered in a general election.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 03:11 PM
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17. I am so sick of Calif being the ATM
then have nothing to do with the nominations, or rather , less to do with them than say, SC., and other red states like IA. C'mon NY.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 03:29 PM
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18. ATM, huh? You feel you deserve political influence by virtue of money your wealthy neighbors spent.
Pot, meet kettle.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 03:58 PM
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20. No . Population, amount of Dems
Let them spend some of the money here , Let them kiss some Calif ass for a change. We deserve the infuence as much as New Hampshire. Let them compete for the liberal vote. More people more votes more money So?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 03:34 PM
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19. Finally
A western state will actually have influence on the candidate chosen? Amazing! They finally recognized there are plenty of Americans who live in the Western United States, not just the East. More progressive too!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-15-07 04:13 PM
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22. So which candidate will promise to work to make it a federal crime
to post Grammy spoilers on the Internets? That could win over a lot of west coast voters, right?
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