Larisa Alexandrovna: LOTS MORE Problems w/ Khalid Sheikh Muhammed Confessions

[Hissyspit]

BACKGROUND ON KSM: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/15/14955/2543

http://www.atlargely.com/2007/03/important_huge_.html

March 15, 2007
Important: Huge Problem with KSM Confession
In his confession, KSM claims:

"I was responsible for planning, training, surveying, and financing for the New (or Second) Wave of attacks against the following skyscrapers after 9/11: ...Plaza Bank, Washington state"

The Plaza Bank was not founded until 2006 according to their official Web site:

" Founded in early 2006, with a vision of creating the leading commercial bank in the Pacific Northwest, Plaza Bank’s story quickly captured the hearts and passion of some of the region’s leading business minds. From Jack Creighton, former CEO of Weyerhaeuser and United Airlines, to former Seattle Mariner Edgar Martinez, and nationally acclaimed salon operator Gene Juárez, the story of a bank founded to bring “class to the mass” simply could not be contained."

I think we can say for quite certain that whomever is being held as KSM was either caught recently or that his entire confession is a fraud.

Update: Noah has more...

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/03/911_confession_.html#more

Thursday, March 15, 2007
9/11 "Confession": How Real? (Updated and Bumped)

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UPDATE 5: "The notes to the <9/11> Commission's conclusions mention the possibility of Mohammed 'inflating his own role.' He may also be attempting to defend his part in the 9/11 planning against the testimony of other terror suspects," Time says.

The Commission's notes indicate that, according to another terror chieftain, Abu Zubaydah, Mohammed originally offered Osama bin Laden a more modest proposal for attacking the U.S., but that bin Laden reportedly berated him, saying "Why do you use an ax when you can use a bulldozer?" What's more, Mohammed has also used disinformation in the past. He admitted under previous interrogation that a list of 30 supposed U.S. targets, which he circulated shortly after 9/11, was a lie to exaggerate the scale of al-Qaeda's planning. Terrorism experts say that though there is no doubt Mohammed played a major role in planning 9/11, he's famous among interrogators for his braggadocio. "He has nothing else in life but to be remembered as a famous terrorist," says Bruce Riedel, Senior Fellow at the Saban Center at the Brookings Institute and a 29-year veteran of the CIA. "He wants to promote his own importance. It's been a problem since he was captured," says Reidel, who went on to say he wouldn't be surprised is Mohammed was exaggerating his role in other plots.

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UPDATE 7: The Counterterrorism Blog has a point-by-point... well, response, to many of KSM's claims. I'd say this falls somewhere between rebuttal and clarification. Here's an example:

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Posted by Noah Shachtman 5:36:00 PM

ALL THE TALKLEFT posts on these KSM issues: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/15/14955/2543


MUCH MORE AT LINKS

[PhilipShore]

1. And his writing style, is not that of foreign origin -- n/t

[Hissyspit]

2. These "confessions" smell to high heaven on so many levels.

Even if some of these speculations are just plain off, the whole thing stinks. I'm wondering about the timing. Why now?

[jelly]

3. To Save Gonzo?

He helped make the case for torturing KSM and others. To my knowledge it is the issue over which he has received the greatest amount of criticism. This "new" "information," to tiny little repug brains, would seem to justify having tortured KSM. Because, you know, the WH cannot be bothered with those pesky little things we call "principles." Where they're from, the ends always justify the means.

[Hissyspit]

4. Yes. Thanks. Very well put.

I meant to mention the Gonzales/attorny purge issue in my post, but was watching "The Rockford Files" and got distracted!

Not just principles, but laws. They seem to get away with it all, though, don't they. Extralegality taken to absurd extremes.

[ClintonTyree]

5. To get the press off of Bush's back....

it's juts a variation of the old "TERRA, TERRA, TERRA" stories that the Bushistas used so often and so well after their rationalizations for the Iraq war fell apart.
Now we have the man who's responsible for every terror attack since John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln, singing like a bird. :eyes: I'd sing like a bird as well if I had my scrotum hot-wired to a car battery.
The thing is, there's just SO MANY Bush administration scandals right now that even a story, and I DO mean story, like this can't keep them off the front pages. I expect a full blown terra' alert at any time now. They'll keep trying until something works.

[Eurobabe]

7. That was my first thought the minute I heard of these "supposed"

confessions.

The timing is just unbelievably convenient. Problem is, BushCo doesn't know that many folks are onto their 'little boy who cried wolf schemes' now. These people live in an insular vacuum, I swear.

[CGowen]

13. Even his alleged capture was used/staged

The Timing of the Capture Helps Bush

One unnamed terror expert claimed to have predicted the arrest, saying that “several weeks ago he believed Mohammed had been arrested and that he expected the news would be only be made public when it was in the interests of the United States and Pakistan.” One could hardly imagine a more opportune time for Bush to pull out such an ace in the hole. A New York Times article written just prior to the announcement of Mohammed’s arrest listed “a host of discouraging weekend developments for the Bush administration.” Turkish parliament had narrowly voted not to allow the US to use their country as a staging ground for an Iraq war. The Arab League agreed on a final statement expressing “complete rejection of any aggression on Iraq” while also promising “refusal to participate in military action.”


http://cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayksmcapture

[bluerum]

6. Yes - but this is just what the stump needs to justify unending war and

the ever tightening death spiral of "national security".

All kinds of incriminating testimony (more than likely fabricated and fallacious) from a "reliable source".

List of excuses to have ready:

1. We had reliable intelligence...
2. If we had not have acted the consequences would have been...
3. In order to protect the American people...
4. National security ... at risk...
5. In order to protect American interests abroad...
6. ...

[CJCRANE]

8. IMO

K S Mohammed is either grossly exaggerating to boost his own ego or he is actually quite smart and knows that confessing to every major terrorist plot of the last 30 years makes a mockery of Bushco by making it obvious he is lying.

[radfringe]

9. If we really have the BIG MASTER PLOTTING EVIL DOER in prison

then our job in Afghanistan and Iraq is done. Time to bring the troops home.

[woodsprite]

10. But what about the Senators who flew there to watch it on closed circuit TV?

Doesn't that mean it has to be true? :sarcasm: I believe they're supposed to release a statement sometime later today.

[majorjohn]

14. KSM pulled out the plugs on the closed circuit TV n/t

[SpiralHawk]

11. "Leave our Black Ops confessions alone, La La." - Commander AWOL

"Or I will sic my darkside occult cabal cronies on all you truth lovers. We have always been at war with Oceania."

- Commander AWOL

[lala_rawraw]

12. yes sir, 2+2=5

[SpiralHawk]

15. Actually, keep up the Great Work LaLa. Bravissima !

You are providing an enormous service to democracy and the people of America. I know that may sound over the top, but it is what I believe. We so need courageous and enterprising journalists in these days, and in my view you are definitely one. Keep up the great work.

- SpiralHawk

[Hissyspit]

16. .

[donkeyotay]

17. I love it when they get caught lying. A small side point that bothers me

is that damn picture. It's as bad as the repetitively shown teeth/lice exam of Saddam. I still remember the outrage when, early in the war, a few of our soldiers were captured and the Iraqis showed them on television. They weren't hooded or being abused in anyway, they were just shown. The House had a unanimous resolution decrying the "humiliation" of our troops (and bringing up the Geneva Conventions). Yet, our media shows these sleazy propaganda photos.