Plame #4 OFFICIAL

[helderheid]

#1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424238&mesg_id=424238
#2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424577&mesg_id=424577
and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424583&mesg_id=424583
#3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424917&mesg_id=424917

[LSK]

1. doh, i just made one

[helderheid]

5. Oh foo, sorry!

[LSK]

we can go with yours

:hi:

[Sydnie]

2. Can you put official in that title please?

[babylonsister]

3. Wow! Dueling Plame threads! nt

[LSK]

4. deleted mine

Please put official in OP

[H2O Man]

6. Espionage.

An organized attempt to "share" classified information with those not entitled to receive it.

[Sydnie]

18. Oh baby

If this doesn't take them down, then they really are teflon.

[liberalnurse]

22. Who said Espionage??

My firewall at work won't let me watch the stream......

[H2O Man]

40. They have not

used the word, but they are focusing on the fact (which is on the chart being used) that there were 20 known instances of her identity being "shared" in a political operation.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

75. There is a link in Sabra's post in Thread #1

that the firewall at my work (hospital!) is not blocking

[Hepburn]

7. Pls...someone the 5th K&R??? TIA

[LSK]

8. done

[Sydnie]

9. Lynch is funny!

His wife sends him to take out the trash! :rofl:

[blogslut]

10. I like how the Dems

are dismantling the BS surrounding this case.

[Hepburn]

29. They are doing surgery on the BS surrounding...

...the neocon lies about her status and Joe W going to Niger with a freaking stiletto. This is soooooo good!!!

[babylonsister]

11. YES! She DID NOT send the ambassador to Niger! Didn't have

the authority!

[keithjx]

12. Remember at the beginning of the hearing

when we heard whispers about "she's rethinking her testimony"? What if the "she" was Toensing? After all of this crystal clear info that she was covert, etc., how can Toensing testify otherwise???

:popcorn:
KJ

[October]

13. Rep. Lynch is up...

Calling the disclosure of her status "reckless."

Bringing up Plame's husband and trip to Niger...

Plames never recommend her husband make that trip...very emphatic...

Lynch is making some good points -- in an amusing way, too...



Edited to fix spelling.

[dogday]

14. Valerie is laying out the time line of how

Ambassador Wilson went to Niger....

[AlCzervik]

15. omg this is so good!! Cue Flounder from aniimal house "This is gonna be great!"

[myrna minx]

16. Did you send your husband to Niger?

VP: No. I did not recommend him, nor did I send him. I am glad that I am under oath to reply to you.

[bmcatt]

17. "Delighted to be answering under oath"...

while laying out the timeline of how Amb. Wilson got the job to go to Niger.

[Cassandra]

35. I love how she's stressed several times that she's happily...

under oath, as opposed to Bushco, who do everything they can to avoid it.

[helderheid]

19. I am SO glad this is coming out! I didn't know she hadn't sent him which means a lot

of people didn't know that!!

[MrMickeysMom]

25. I hope they play this one over and over on tonight's news.... ya think?

[eleny]

28. Wow! So she was never the one who initially suggested Joe go to Niger

[Norquist Nemesis]

63. It's just as Joe Wilson has explained with the one exception

of it all being that she was the one who introduced him to the committee/panel who was going to be talking to him about the trip and asking him to go formally. My understanding was that it was a simple 'this is Joe Wilson' not an in-depth overview of his qualifications and experience for the trip. (whew! that was a run-on LOL!)

[Hepburn]

20. This is good on what involvement Wilson had...

...more BS being swept aside....and VP notes she is under oath in giving the testimony re Joe going to Niger.

Fan-freaking-tastic.

[Eurobabe]

21. Lynch DA MA-2: Did you make the decision to send your husband to Niger?

No, I didn't have the authority.

[shireen]

23. "impeach bush now" in pink!

That person behind Plame ... who stands up when she talks knowing the camera is on her. Stroke of genius! :rofl:

[ronnykmarshall]

27. Code Pink ROCKS!

I love it!

[dogday]

55. She doesn't give up either... They have told her to

sit down once.. Now she has a crown on with a message on it.... Love it!!!!

[shireen]

i just noticed that too!

I love that person! I hope we'll be able to get a photo later, with Plame in the foreground and the Code Pink hero standing up boldly in the back, broadcasting that message on our behalf!

:patriot:

[LSK]

24. link to pic of the chart

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=425140&mesg_id=425155

[shireen]

can someone read the "CIA" orange block?

who told Armitage and the other name I can't make out?
Is there a name there?

[Sydnie]

Let's get it in this tread too - Here

[bobthedrummer]

26. White House Iraq Group/WHIG is stir-fried, and the boiling oil is splashing

and inflicting deep burns

[EFerrari]

33. They outed the wrong agent.

:evilgrin:

[Eurobabe]

38. LOL, thanks for the visual

:rofl:

[Skidmore]

54. Lord, I hope Imus finishes toasting Matalin Monday.

May Carville spend the rest of the 08 election cycle providing support for his wife before her trial.

[bobthedrummer]

74. Judith Miller was made a charter member of WHIG

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/10/19/550/51440

on edit: Andy Card was the head of WHIG

[Eurobabe]

30. Email taken out of context in July 2004 that looks like VP sent her

husband to Niger. She just laid out how he was chosen to go to Niger. VP was initially not overjoyed for him to go, it was not her idea.

[Greeby]

31. The hearing is on Sky News multiscreen

The world is watching, y'all :bounce:

[helderheid]

34. YES YES YES YES!!!!!

[EFerrari]

47. What is that, Greeby? n/t

[Greeby]

89. Sky News (British Faux)

But they do have is an interactive option on digital TV, where you can select from 8 screens. Sometimes they do in-depth live coverage. I watched some of the star testimony on the 9/11 Commission through this system

[myrna minx]

53. Fantastic!

I'm glad that the world is watching us shed light on the treachery in our own house.

[trof]

32. Are repugs boycotting this?

Only 2 questioning so far.

[POAS]

42. I was just wondering that myself

I saw a couple since I tuned in but they are far outnumbered

[rodeodance]

46. There are several more Dems on this comm. vs Repugs.

[trof]

52. A lot of empty seats there.

???

[NewJeffCT]

82. that's good then

Their side gets less time to get in their lies...

[nebenaube]

83. those repubs...

and there misdirecting questions... the house of cards is falling and it's falling hard...

[POAS]

36. The woman behind Mrs. Wilson

keeps nodding knowingly at everything Valerie says. Wonder is she is CIA?

[Cameron27]

43. Maybe she's a lawyer from crew?

[POAS]

50. Clue me in I'm having a senior moment

[Cameron27]

71. lol, I have plenty of those

I was just speculating, I don't know myself. She's just seems very aware of all the implications of these questions.

[POAS]

100. I meant about "CREW"

[Blackhatjack]

37. She is a killer on Republican Senators and their dastardly deeds in this matter....n/t

[myrna minx]

39. Her testimony is trouncing all of the republican talking points.

She's fantastic.

[October]

49. She's a great witness...especially when she's emphatic...

You can tell she's eager to tell her side...

[LSK]

41. this hearing is wasting time do to the right wing talking points

How much of this time has been devoted to talking points such as:

- She was not covert or undercover

- She outed herself with the Vanity Fair cover

- Wilson was sent to Africa by his wife

The right wing is such a waste in more ways than one.

[liberalnurse]

105. Read all of the threads..........

From what I am reading, they are doing just that. Be patient.

[AlCzervik]

44. are there any republicans at this hearing?

[EFerrari]

51. Yes, two have questioned her so far. n/t

[myrna minx]

68. Yes and they were focusing on her Vanity Fair photographs

:eyes: and whether or not she could still have a job at CIA. Silly questions. Very silly questions.

[Hepburn]

69. Yeah, a few...

...and as this goes on, I bet they hope they are wearing Adult Depends. If the Pubbies are NOT shitting a few bricks over this, they should be.

[poverlay]

45. OH SNAP! "It just doesn't square with the facts." "It was written exclusively by 3 republican

senators."

I LOVE THIS!!!

I LOVE Valerie!

Wooooo
Hoooooooooooooooooooooo

[Connie_Corleone]

58. What was written??

[POAS]

66. I want to know also---hard to type and hear at same time

[poverlay]

97. "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former

ambassador's wife. A CIA employee." in the senate intelligence comittee hearing. I don't know who the 3 repug senators were.

When asked what her reaction to that statement regarding the genesis of Joe Wilson's trip to Niger was she replied "Congressman, it's incorrect." etc.

[eleny]

48. Can you hear this echoing through the offices of the White House?

I bet every computer and tv set is tuned into this hearing.

[POAS]

60. TIVOes on overload

[trof]

62. Bush** is in the toilet throwing up.

[eleny]

73. Oh, snaps!

And he's echoing as well!!!

[tridim]

64. I bet Rove and Cheney are pacing nervously and mumbling "Can't we pull the plug on her?"

[Blackhatjack]

56. I am betting the CIA employees are saying to Plame "go...go...go"

They are plenty upset with what happened regardless of the politico higherups that have carried Bush's water.

[rodeodance]

Dem: "The WH SPRANG into active to Discredit your husband" HO HO

[Eurobabe]

57. VPW: Karl Rove is clearly involved in leaking my name and he still has a security clearance

[rodeodance]

78. Whow---------------great ONE VAL

[October]

59. OMG -- She just nailed Rove on how he still holds clearance...

[ronnykmarshall]

67. Love it!

She gave Rove a major smack down!

[myrna minx]

76. Excellent. n/t

[waiting for hope]

61. Karl Rove......

Get him girlfriend!

[Norquist Nemesis]

70. Congressman, I can not speculate on Mr. Rove's intent

I can only speak to what his words were and their effect

GO GIRL!

[ronnykmarshall]

72. SNAP!

G'on Val!

[rodeodance]

65. Plame is onto Rove!----good!!

[LSK]

77. now debunking Roberts Intel Report on Wilson

[H2O Man]

80. Wow!

Powerful!

[Sydnie]

79. I was distracted - what memo? n/t

[POAS]

85. from a CPD officer trying

to get back under oath because he was quoted out of context in original Senate report.

[Sydnie]

92. Thank you

You come to my information rescue again. :)

[LSK]

95. Roberts Intel Report on Niger cherry picks quotes on how Wilson was sent

The CPD officer wanted that clarified but was ignored.

[xxqqqzme]

81. Sarbanes is hot

[LSK]

84. is that Sen Sarbanes son?

[dogday]

86. Yes he is

Oh my he is good looking....

[keithjx]

94. Yeah, but he's

got something funky going on with his thumb....
KJ

[dogday]

102. I am not looking at his thumb...............nt

[brook]

109. This is brilliant!

They are laying out all the lies and intimidation on so many levels. Painting the picture of a totally corrupt Administration. I cannot help but think these are the steps to the End of Bush. Impeachment is on the horizon.

[shireen]

87. my rep, John Sarbanes, is on ...

first time i'm seeing him in committee. He sounds a lot like his dad.

[ClayZ]

88. "Paints the picture of Bullies"

[October]

90. Administration of Bullies...

John Sarbanes is talking about how this paints a picture of an "Administration of Bullies..."

[mod mom]

91. Sarbanes : Administration official are "BULLIES" "POWER RUN AMUK"

[NewJeffCT]

98. Team Bush is like the Sopranos

Only with less charm and competence.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

93. Maybe I'm overreacting but could this memo that Val's talking

about maybe be the "smoking gun"?

I hope to God Waxman's committee can get their hands on this.

:woohoo:

[izzybeans]

108. It's a memo that a key informant from the CIA during a previous Republican led

hearing wrote indicating how the issued report from that hearing was a whitewash that misrepresented his views on her status and what led up to Wilson's mission. It's a puzzle piece.

[helderheid]

96. # 5 is up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x425485

[Lasher]

106. Wow, already? I've never seen it move so fast.

[A wise Man]

99. This is so F_ _ _ _ _ g deep!!!!

The rethugs are now banging their heads against the walls. I wonder if we'll hear of any jumping off their rooftops?

[Norquist Nemesis]

107. Speaking of the Cons, where are the rest of them?

I woke up late, but the only ones I've seen have been (ranking?) Davis and Westmoreland. :shrug:

Are the rest of them sending text msgs to KKKarl or something?

[crispini]

101. What did he just say about "petulant behavior"

On her part? :wtf:

[mod mom]

103. someon has to want that to happen. not by accident. someone had to want to

get it out.

[trof]

104. I am SO impressed. Val ain't 'lawyered up'.

She's sitting there all by herself.
No 'advisor' next to her to put a hand over her mic, go into a huddle, 'advise' her, nothing. Naked.
Just one woman, confident, clear, concise, and armed with righteous truth.
Just WOW.
I have so much admiration for her.
Roses, anyone?

[Ediacara]

110. Locking

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