Plame # 5 OFFICIAL

[helderheid]

Plame 1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424238&mesg_id=424238
Plame 2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424577&mesg_id=424577

and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424583&mesg_id=424583

Plame 3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424917&mesg_id=424917
Plame 4 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=425279&mesg_id=425279

[wryter2000]

1. Coming in late

I think I'm in love with this woman. I've been in love with her husband for years. :loveya:

[keithjx]

2. Thx, Helderheid! n/t

[helderheid]

3. "strikes me as petulant" That's putting it mildly!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

4. k&r.

[NewJeffCT]

5. Thanks to all those providing crumbs for us cube rats

streaming video & audio are no-nos here in my office...

[Eurobabe]

6. Oh, Sarbanes is nice on the eyes

I've never seen him before.

[helderheid]

9. I haven't either - smittin!

[shireen]

yup, he's seriously cute

also looks like a younger version of his dad.

[rocktivity]

132. Not bad at all

:headbang:
rocknation

[shireen]

24. delete duplicate post

[Inuca]

I a, listening without really watching, and

I thought for amoment that I hear Paul Sarbanes. I assume he is his son. It's uncanny how similar the way they talk is.

[whistle]

7. The administration is painted as bullies deliberately abusing their power

...to get others to do the will of the administration

[POAS]

8. threads are filling up fast on this

good stuff

lots of rolaids going down at WH this morning

[Cameron27]

34. Why the heck was the other thread locked?

Crew--I thought crew had taken over the Plame defense.

I'd better ask H2O man though, to be sure.

[POAS]

40. Thanks

[WestHoustonDem]

10. Live blogging at FTF

http://feettofire.com/node/100/

[Hepburn]

11. VP ~~ good on this issue of her working for the CIA.

It should have put up a red flag to them when they knew she worked for the CIA.

[mod mom]

12. what is up with the pink crown-distracting & childish.

[xxqqqzme]

18. is that a guy in drag?

pink person

[shireen]

38. i love it .... it's a protest with a little humor

[Beelzebud]

117. Is this a protest, or a hearing? Is this for the kids or for the adults?

Take that shit to the streets, not in a fucking hearing.

[SlowDownFast]

82. Asshat.

Purposely distracting and making a circus of what is a very serious and important hearing.

Doesn't do a thing for Valerie or our cause and gives ammo to the other side.

Perfect example of an "idiot liberal".

[Beelzebud]

100. I agree. It makes the hearing look like a fucking joke...

[Skidmore]

13. That pink tiara back there must be driving Republics crazy.

[Beelzebud]

109. I know it's driving me crazy. Does this idiot think the hearing is a joke?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

111. It's not doing much for me either. As much as I agree with her sentiments,

I find her distracting when I am trying to concentrate on VPW's words.

[JackBeck]

14. Is FDL down for anyone?

[JackBeck]

Back up.

[Eurobabe]

15. Sarbanes asking about intelligence 'bias'

Plame answering: needs to be free of ideology, politics - how can the President make good decisions on important issues?

[Breeze54]

C-Span on-line must be on overlload

I keep losing the feed and the voices are distorted.

Thank you all for trying to relay what is being said in the hearing.

I love the slow thoughtful way Sarbanes is asking questions. Seems like a smart guy!

[bobthedrummer]

16. Timeline of the White House Iraq Group from The Democratic Party

this is the basic ingredient
http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/10/timeline_activi.php

[bobthedrummer]

51. Judith Miller was made a "charter member" of WHIG

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/10/19/550/51440

[shireen]

17. love you code pink!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[POAS]

28. Yep she's getting her message out there alright.

[Greeby]

19. Very telling that there are so few Repukes here

:eyes:

[Carolina]

36. my thoughts exactly

cry babies can't face the truth!

[poverlay]

20. Has she mentioned her NOC status? Damage/harm to other agents?

aside:

I love the crossdresser Code Pinky who keeps standing up and stretching with a pink "impeach Bush" shirt and crown on...

[JackBeck]

29. Yes.

But couldn't comment on other agents, but was told by the CIA that an assessment had been done.

[Norquist Nemesis]

31. "Covert and classified" confirmed

The rest? Unless it came before about 10am cst, no.

Oh, Westormelands an ass!

[poverlay]

45. Yeah he is, but she's shutting him down beautifully.. n/t

[marmar]

21. Geez, they grow their Republicans big and dumb down in Georgia, don't they?

:dunce:

[whistle]

37. Result of incest

[POAS]

22. Westmoreland crying for lack of time

where the hell are his Republic buddies?

[whistle]

23. Plame states that politics has to be taken out of intelligence

[Lasher]

25. All the Publicans seem to be taking a pass and reserving their time.

I guess they're saving up time so they can tell Victoria Toensing how wonderful she is.

[xxqqqzme]

26. so many conflicting reports? WTF???

westmoreland is an ass

[Hepburn]

Make that STUPID ass, IMO. n/t

[Cassandra]

He watches too much Fux Noise...

and mistakes that for facts. He's projecting his desire for credit for an idea on others.

[trof]

27. Oooo...She just gave Westmoreland that 'mongoose to cobra' smile.

She has GOT your number, buddy.

[POAS]

35. Great visual-----------thanks

[quiet.american]

39. YES! I saw that, too. I would not want to be on the other end of that smile. n/t

[glitch]

102. Excellent metaphor. Bye bye sssssnake :) nt

[Eurobabe]

30. Westmoreland R-GA again

Trying to make the counter-proliferation group stupid. Another dumb ass CON, he said FIXIN'!!

[Venus Dog]

32. Anybody want to take a stab at the identity of "UNKNOWN" at the ?CIA

My bets would be on Tenet. Wouldn't that be the icing - the head of the CIA outing his own agents :grr:

[whistle]

42. Quite possible

[Eurobabe]

47. Maybe that's why he fell on the sword

[waiting for hope]

33. Have to get the politics out of our

Intelligence.......

and our Justice Department
and our School Systems
and our ....

Please continue Ms. Wilson - you are kicking ass!

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. And then Westmoreland asks "Is your husband a Democrat or Republican"

and then asks her whether she is Democrat or Republican. :eyes:

[mod mom]

41. Westoreland is a dick. Who sent Wilson is rally that important? What about

the facts he found? What about the chiiling effects of outing a covert agent?

[blogslut]

44. She handling him just fine

:)

[Eurobabe]

43. Westmoreland asking her why no one in CPG couldn't

remember who sent JW to Niger. She is countering his stupid questions, some testimony came out at the Libby trial.

[Hepburn]

46. Oh, VP, tooooo good!

Making reference to facts introduced into evidence at the Libby trial as to how Joe W got asked to go to Niger! Slam dunk by VP! Woohoo!

[Norquist Nemesis]

48. Ooop--new fall guy!

Charles Grenier (thought that was the name of the guy who was at Abu Graib)

Now Westmoreland trying to bring in the politics by asking whether she and Joe are Democrat or Republican.

[POAS]

49. What an ass...are you a democrat?

[poverlay]

66. There goes the Republicans making it political instead of being concerned about the safety of U.S.

citizens...

[crispini]

Oh, what an ass this Georgia congressman is.

Why does it matter what political party they are?

[POAS]

60. That's at least two votes for "Ass"

[ronnykmarshall]

65. He sounds like that guy on South Park ..

Drugs are bad. Oh okay?

[WinkyDink]

91. The difference of the Media's reporting the story, that's what. He may be dumb,

but he ain't stupid.

And those are the questions he'll ask V. Toensing---to get out the "Party hatred of Bushco" propaganda. VT will, I'm betting, claim she and Joe D. were hounded by the Clinton Admin.---as "background" info.

[blogslut]

50. Westmoreland does McCarthy!

Are you now or have you ever been...a Democrat?

[Sydnie]

59. That sums it up quite well!

Thanks!

[Sparkly]

61. First thing that came to my mind, too!!! nt

[bobthedrummer]

69. fwiw, Joseph McCarthy was a Dem that turned Republican eom

on edit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x268441

[Sydnie]

52. what kind of shit is that? Is he a DEM or a REP?

that is not worthy of the time it took to ask it!

Take a clue - They are both AMERICANS you asshat!

[Eurobabe]

Westmoreland asking her if she is a Democrat or a Republican

She got mad, and said that is not relevant. But she admitted that she is a DEMOCRAT.

[helderheid]

58. WTF???

[ronnykmarshall]

83. That's gonna be the headlines on Fox.

And freepers just went apeshit.

[tridim]

53. If anyone is wondering how FR is reacting, this is the only post you need to see.

"you obviously have not be reading FR, about Ms. Plame. Her husband outed her, she was never covert. Her and Her husband did a politcal hit job on the Bush WhiteHouse.
17 posted on 03/16/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)"

Can you believe they STILL believe that crap?

[Sydnie]

70. Yes, I beleive it takes forever for the sun to shine for them

their heads are so far underground!

[WinkyDink]

101. "Underground"? You are too kind. :)

[Jemmons]

54. Niger mission redundant

Plame told that the wilson-niger mission was really a bit redundant and most good sources doubted the allegation that Niger had supplied any yellowcake.

[npincus]

55. this guy is a DICK

[POAS]

68. Your outvoted --He's an ass 2 votes to 1

[ClayZ]

56. "Yes, Congressman, I am a democrat"

[waiting for hope]

71. What the fuck kind of question

was that? If that doesn't hit to the core of the issue - for the Republicans, I truly don't believe anyone on the Dem side would use that.

[liberalnurse]

123. We can look at it this way.....

repugs want to harm Democrats....They outed VP which harmed her.......She was a target which gave the repugs much more pleasure because she was a Democrat. A "Plus" as one might say.

[seemunkee]

62. What happened to take the politics out?

[xxqqqzme]

63. what a dick

JW has said in the past he was a rethug but not any more.

[Hepburn]

64. This is TOTAL bullshit...

...asking her what political affil she and Joe W have. BTW: Both are Dems. Like THIS matters? What a complete ass!

[Eurobabe]

74. Davis interjecting, trying to cover for the CONS again

[poverlay]

Your picture of the crying baby looks exactly like wesmoreland. n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

78. You can bet Faux will have that sound byte!

"I am a Democrat"

with Hannity immediately following, "Well, there you go folks! That's all you need to know about this whole affair."

[tridim]

88. As if Democrats can't work in the CIA..

But you're right, they'll play it thousands of times in the next week.

[Hepburn]

113. Pubbie think ~~ yep....

....that will be all that matters to the RWs. Obviously the destruction of her career and the harm done to the intell programs was done by her for political reasons.

Yep, I can hear the spin now. Gag me..

[glitch]

120. It doesn't matter - they are only talking to their base, and their base is shrinking. nt

[marmar]

67. Is the term "shit-for-brains" applicable? (re: Westmoreland)

:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

[Sydnie]

77. Don't dis shit like that

That is too good for a description for him. Shit, at least, can be useful.

[marmar]

96. Teehee...

:+

[myrna minx]

72. My husband has long standing republican roots but now considers

himself a Democrat.

Are you a Democrat?

VP: Yes, I would consider myself a Democrat.

Ok, so he's now trying to make it sound that the Wilsons are political hacks.

[whistle]

73. Westmoreland just put politics into the hearing....Joe Wilson and Plame both

....democrats. What a shit-head!

[Eurobabe]

80. that is the MO of this evil administration

politicizing and polarizing everything, to blame all their ills on ideologies. You are either with us or you are with the TERRARISTS.

[JackBeck]

92. Didn't Joe Wilson admit at one point that he voted for Bush the first time?

[A wise Man]

93. What a shame he didn't

get to ask all the question he wanted to. What the fuck do you want to ask jackass??

[Greeby]

75. Eleanor Homes Norton up

And as always, she's bringing an ass-whuppin with her :)

[seemunkee]

76. If you wanted more time why didn't you hold hearings when the repubs were in charge?

[myrna minx]

81. Heh. The repubs are professional pouters aren't they.

[seafan]

79. With reference to that CPD memo from the last thread:

From my memory of what Plame just said:

(CPD= counter proliferation division)


Plame said that after the (Republican-led) Senate Report on Joe Wilson's Niger findings came out, downplaying the credibility of Joe Wilson's claims, Plame said that the CPD officer came to her, almost in tears, saying that the Senate Report had "twisted his words" and completely misrepresented his views.

The CPD officer then wrote a memo to his (CIA) supervisor, asking that the Senate Panel reinterview him, so he could set the record absolutely straight. This memo never saw the light of day, and the CPD officer's plea to correct the misleading findings of how the Senate Report was framed, was quashed.


This memo will be unearthed now!

[POAS]

85. Your memory matches mine

[Sydnie]

89. and perhaps he will get his chance to reappear to set the record

straight first hand.

This is just the beginning.

[POAS]

103. I say get on the phone to CIA and have

him brought over today!

[izzybeans]

84. Executive Order 12958

http://www.fas.org/sgp/clinton/eo12958.html

[POAS]

90. Wow you're good

[izzybeans]

108. Google popped it right up.

;-)

[rodeodance]

86. who was that guy who said : there is NO evidence that people KNEW she

was Covert????????

[POAS]

95. Ranking member Davis---I think

[Sydnie]

99. yes it was n/t

[Greeby]

87. VP: Noone on the chart needed to know about her

:popcorn:

[myrna minx]

98. Is there any difference between disclosing classified information

or disclosing the identity of a covet agent?

VP: They are both damaging.

[Whoa_Nelly]

94. What is not being said in the hearing today, but is most definitively clear...

Over 3100 US troops killed in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens displaced, maimed, killed, using the "mushroom cloud"--Saddam proliferation of WMD lies by abusing the Niger report to gain PNAC goals, makes the Bush administration the most despicable, horrendous, and criminal administration in US history; The Nixon administration crimes pale when compared to what BushCo has done.

Today I am a proud American as I watch and listen to Valerie Plame.

Maybe today's testimony by Plame will bring cause and genuine action to dismantle BushCo.

[helderheid]

97. #6 is UP - Mods please lock this one

[Sydnie]

104. got a link? - here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x425729

[helderheid]

110. DOH!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x425729

[Lasher]

105. Westmoreland whining because he didn't get to ask all the questions he wanted

Looks like he's been given the same amount of time as everybody else. Typical Publican, "Wah wah, everybody's unfair to me!"

He's lucky he was even allwed to attend. House Democrats sure haven't gotten much of a chance to participate during the reign of the GOP leadership over the past 6 years.

[whistle]

112. Being a Georgia cracker questions take him 3 times longer to ask

[Lasher]

121. He kept talking about an 'eye rack' or something.

Guess that's where you store your spare eyeballs.

[John Q. Citizen]

116. I wish someone would ask about the interest that Cheney had in Plame prior to

Joe Wilson's OP ed.

[Beelzebud]

106. Someone tell that idiot to take the pink tiara off. This isn't a fucking game.

I think this is an example of what Rep. Obey would call an "Idiot Liberal".

[Norquist Nemesis]

114. LOL! Jon Stewart's going to have some fun with that one n/t

[Beelzebud]

115. Everyone will. It's fucking stupid... We can be our own worst enemy at times.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

128. think they're BACK - house session over. nt

[Graybeard]

119. It's stupid and unnecessary...

...Plame and the Dems are kicking ass here.

[Eurobabe]

107. Norton: questioning about who needs to know her identity as a covert agent

Would that be a violation, if they didn't need to know? VPW: Yes.

[symbolman]

118. Should have said. to Dem or Repig question

"I am an AMERICAN."

SNAP! :)

[ronnykmarshall]

122. MY congressman (Waxman) is fantastic!

[poverlay]

126. You should be very proud. He is a great American... n/t

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

124. "Facts are Not Democratic or Republican!"

Words of the honorable Henry Waxman, Senator for the Ages.

[burbank_spiffers]

125. time to call a spade a spade:

Exposing Plame is nothing short of treason.

[Sydnie]

129. You don't post often ... but when you do

you hit the nail on the head! :hi:

[burbank_spiffers]

130. Thanks!!!

Cheers!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

127. So why is Waxman cutting it short??? why not keep her there all day>

[Laura PourMeADrink]

131. someone just yelled "Impeach Cheney First" also sign "Got Impeachment:"