Read this post and get pissed

[shadowknows69]

Its a good thing I'm not going to be there with you guys this weekend. Because I probably wouldn't be coming back home and my wife would kill me. Because after what I just learned i'd have to cause a bit of a scene I think. I drove taxi for a while tonight and found out an update on the 3rd BCT from the 10th Mountain division who juat had their tour extended. Here's the rub. THEY HAD THEM ON U.S. SOIL ON THE TARMAC AT FORT DRUM AND THEY TURNED THE PLANES AROUND. Also the 200 or so that came back the last week are shipping right back out in 72 hours or less. I can't believe there wasn't an uprising on those planes and IMO there should have been. You can't use people like this!!! You can't take them through a year of hell and get them so close to home they can see it then take that away from them. I stopped believing in Hell a long time ago but I hope some just deity creates one just for the monsters behind all this. DAMN YOU TO HELL GEORGE BUSH!!!

[blue cat]

1. I'm sure many on that plane

voted for Bush. I do feel terrible for them.

[shadowknows69]

9. I'd feel terrible for them if they voted for Charlie Manson

you can't do this to soldiers. "Short time" is sacred to a soldier. The only beacon of hope sometimes. To have it so close and taken away is unforgiveable.

[TahitiNut]

13. So, 3,065 down and 62,037,541 to go? Is that what you're saying?

:puke:

[shadowknows69]

15. exactly how I feel Tahiti

And I've never been in such a situation. You were in Vietnam right? Could you even conceive of this. Has this ever been done before this war?

[TahitiNut]

29. I can't even begin to express how enraged I am at how the troops are being abused.

No. Viet Nam was bad enough. Going alone. Coming back alone. Arriving 'home' alone. But this is horrible.

We The People are allowing this - in our name. Thousands are being killed for lies and greed - in our name. Yet, in our indolence and cowardice, we're not in the streets by the millions and risking our lives to stop this war crime - in our name. We're paying tax dollars and going to defense industry jobs while our youngest adults, in service to "The People" of this nation, are being brutalized - in our name. If we had the courage of our convictions, we'd be protesting en masse and leaving 100, 200, or more of our bodies dying in the streets to stop the abominable carnage being done - in our name. (I'm more than willing for one of them to be mine.)

So ... How about that Super Bowl?

:puke:

[shadowknows69]

32. I'm not a leader

but I will follow one that is true and strong. To whatever end.

[madokie]

77. yes, my reason of being too damn old is starting to not wash clean

i'm pissed

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

2. Turned the planes around.

:cry: MKJ

[Coexist]

117. I know - that is disgusting of them

[Merrill]

3. Revolt Brewing on Capitol Hill

http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=10390

[shadowknows69]

5. We should let Keith O know this possibly

only problem being is that I can't unequivocally confirm it but I have no sense that my sources were lying to me.

[tbyg52]

72. How would one (or some brave media outlet)

go about getting it confirmed? This should be the headline on this evening's news.

[Marie26]

91. Here's confirmation from AP

This was an AP story today:

Emotions mixed at Fort Drum, N.Y., as troop homecomings mingle with extensions

By William Kates
ASSOCIATED PRESS

4:07 a.m. January 26, 2007

FORT DRUM, N.Y. – Families of hundreds of troops from the 10th Mountain Division will have four more months of anxious waiting after the soldiers' tours of duty in Afghanistan were extended. The Pentagon announced Wednesday that approximately 3,500 soldiers from Fort Drum in upstate New York would have their tours extended as part of a push to quell growing violence in Afghanistan.

“It has to be awful for those families. You literally count the days until they come. And then this happens,” said Rema Ottinger, whose husband expects to be among more than 3,000 troops returning home as scheduled. About 50 soldiers who had already returned home must redeploy – likely within a few days, said Col. David Clark, garrison commander. However, each soldier's family and medical circumstances will be considered, he said.

Between 100 to 150 troops were in transit from Afghanistan to the U.S. when they received their orders, Clark said. Those soldiers will be turned around and sent back immediately, the colonel said.

“Those are the guys you feel for,” said Pfc. Brian Kozlowski, who served in Iraq in 2005 and will return there this summer. “To be home, or on your way and turned back – that's got to be tough.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20070126-0407-fortdrum-extension.html

God, that's so heartbreaking. Send this story to Keith!

[shadowknows69]

93. Not completely accurate though

We definitely got the full 200 back on the ground for a few days because I saw them walking to their barracks off the buses with my own eyes and it wasn't just 50.

Edit to add. I'm going to drop the level of certainty on this post. I can't say for absolute certainty I saw more than 50 at one time but we were markedly busier that weekend.

[Marie26]

94. I believe you

Why would 50 people be sent ahead of the other 150? It looks like they're just trying to minimize the impact of this decision. Which actually makes it that much more calculated & callous.

[shadowknows69]

96. they do that sometimes

We get one, two guys off commercial airlines. Sometimes they fly into post. Its weird. From a layman's viewit seems the Army is run by absolute morons at times. No disrespect intended to any troops on DU but I suspect some of you may agree with me.

[Marie26]

98. Weren't 12 top officers

in the one helicopter that was shot down this weekend? It does seem completely hap-hazard & disorganized.

[Homer Wells]

107. In some cases, a forward party

returns to base early to prepare the quarters and supplies for those who are to arrive later. What you probably saw was the forward party going onto Ft. Drum to fire every thing up for the rest to come.

Happiest morning of my life was climbing onto that Continental 727, and heading to Okinawa, and eventually Travis AFB in California. I can't imagine the shock and depression I would have felt if that damn plane were turned around at that time.

:cry:

[Change has come]

19. Thank you for the link

and welcome to DU.

[bdamomma]

99. welcome to DU Merrill, frustrating article

something is definitely brewing. our word or will means shit to this administration/regime/dictatorship

:hi:

[Tuesday_Morning]

102. thanks Merrill

and welcome to DU!

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. That's insane

Bush & Co seem determined to destroy our military.

[shadowknows69]

7. I'm beginning to think that's it

I think we may possibly have a serious Manchurian Candidate on our hands. Another rumor I hear is that a good chunk of Drum may be going for Bushies surge which in addition to getting our people killed will wreck our local economy quite nicely as well.

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. 3,200 US soldiers’ tour extended

January 26, 2007

WASHINGTON: The Defence Department has decided to extend the combat tour of 3,200 soldiers from a 10th Mountain Division brigade in Afghanistan by four months in hopes of quelling the violence. Ben Abel, a spokesman for Fort Drum, the New York home of the 10th Mountain Division, confirmed that Defence Secretary Robert Gates had decided to extend the tour of the division’s 3rd Brigade. US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice announced on Thursday that the US planned to increase its aid to Afghanistan by $10.6 billion over the next two years. “The challenges of the last several months have demonstrated that we want to and we should redouble our efforts” in Afghanistan, Rice told reporters at NATO meeting in Brussels. Rice is expected to urge European allies to contribute aid to Afghanistan. agencies.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C01%5C26%5Cstory_26-1-2007_pg1_3

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

16. Thanks more than I can say for posting the back story.

MKJ

[me b zola]

60. Makes it easier to privatize the military

I can hear the sale pitch now, "It's either a privatized military or we'll have to bring back the draft. You don't want a draft, do you?"

[porphyrian]

6. Cheers. - n/t

[shadowknows69]

10. kicking

n/t

[Captain Hilts]

11. Do you have a link to a news source? nt

[shadowknows69]

12. No, but I heard it from a fellow driver, my dispatcher and troops

Three sources good enough? MSM isn't going to tell anyone they had these troops on their home soil before they told them to fuck off.

[Marie26]

92. Try this:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20070126-0407-fortdrum-extension.html

Army press release: http://www.army.mil/-news/2007/01/25/1518-afghanistan-deployment-extended-for-10th-mountain-division/

[VenusRising]

14. What the F*ck is happening!?!

I absolutely cannot believe what they are doing to these soldiers. I can't imagine being in that plane and being steps from my loved ones arms only to be unceremoniously turned around and sent back into the death machine. I hate this war and I hate *. I just don't know what the hell to think anymore.

:cry:

I'm just beside myself about this news.

[shadowknows69]

17. I don't know for sure that they weren't even aloud to see loved ones

fuck me running I hope they gave them that at least. I'm completely beside myself. I see every week what this war is doing to these men and women.

[VenusRising]

22. One would hope they were allowed to see their family,

but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they weren't.

[Oleladylib]

18. I do not understand the purple grape juice patriotism we subject our military to.

I live in Monroe County near enough to Drum to have this news filter here if it is truth.

[shadowknows69]

21. Keep me posted if you hear anything Olelady

PM me if you have to. I don't know any of these guys and I feel like I know all of them. This rips me apart and I'm actually praying it isn't true.

[Oleladylib]

80. be assured I will let you know..

[mmonk]

20. Downright cruel.

All for his lies and those insane neocon dreams.

[shadowknows69]

23. I wonder, have we created the monster somehow

Not DU specifically, but the whole reveal of Bush's "escape" from active duty during Vietnam. Did that push him so over the edge that he just wants to get real heroes killed now in some kind of twisted revenge of self loathing?

[file83]

47. It's cruel AND a total waste of fuel.

So not only are they destroying troop morale, they are wasting tens of thousands of dollars on jet fuel. Who the fuck is in charge?

[NuttyFluffers]

70. my first though as well...

an absolute death knell for morale.

apparently only liberals/progreessives truly stand for veterans, because they see that there's a human behind the uniform. i can't wait until more congressional control in '08 to truly undo this travesty against our soldiers and veterans.

[The Straight Story]

24. Well, you were right

I got pissed.

[shadowknows69]

26. Pretty hard not to eh my friend?

I'm starting to wonder if it isn't the bases we should be assembling at begging these soldiers to stand down and refuse to fight for this maniac.

[Synnical]

25. Send your comments to your Congress Critters and your local paper

I Know it won't fix the issue, but remember when HRC voted for the Iraq war, although inundated with letters, she refused to "believe" that the American Public was against the war.

Damn them all. We must fix this, now! And our "elected" officials are responsible for this mess!

I stand with Cindy Sheehan.


-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

[mmonk]

27. I thought two and half weeks

my wife's cousin's son got between tours was too short. But these guys didn't even get to get their feet on the ground.

[shadowknows69]

28. and some home for just days

thinking it was going to be for months. Settling in. Making plans to see people. I had a driver tell me he met one troop who had TO POSTPONE HIS WEDDING. That was supposed to occur soon. Wonder if the Army is going to reimburse him for the 10k in deposits he's paid. Folk going to DC this weekend. Please make this one count.

[mmonk]

31. Boggles the mind.

Someone else could surely rotate from some other base. It's just not right.

[shadowknows69]

35. There was optimistic talk of this recently

many troops indicated that the 10th was going to mostly come home and get some time and then start deploying as a full division instead pf piecemeal to different theatres. Makes me think GW has something bigger up his sleeve and needs others in reserve. I also had a job tonight of 5 soldiers, older men (for troops anyway mid 30's early 40's), but active, but only in town for a few nights. "On business". One, soldiers don't vacation here when they're bored. Two, the only troops that usually come here for just a weekend are usually guard or reserve troops and they stay on post, or big muck a mucks. These guys were at a Ramada. Something's in the works kids and it probably won't be good. The one guys described it as "a really busy time"

[mmonk]

40. Too many fronts. We're going to go the way of the Soviet Union

if someone doesn't get a handle on this stupid vision the administration has.

[femrap]

118. It may be too late.....nt

[Hekate]

30. Those filthy bastards. I hope the Bushites fry in the Hell they claim to believe in.

As I read this thread my jaw dropped in disbelief. Now I have tears on my face. :cry: This is horrible.

I wish I could go to Saturday's protest in our town and scream bloody blue murder over this -- but less than an hour ago I promised to babysit my grandson all day.

I wouldn't mind taking him along and refraining from the screaming part (he's two and a half), but the rally starts at noon and my daughter says that if he's not napping by then it won't be pretty. And she needs to take a CPR class for her job.

So...I'm taking darlin' boy to the zoo for a picnic; then drive home (shhh, fall asleep in your car seat), then into the crib. Spiritually I am sure it will be better for me to do all that than go yell.

But Mother of God, all those soldiers on the planes that turned around are someone's darling child too. :cry: There will be a reckoning. There will be a reckoning.

Hekate

[jgraz]

49. They won't

Most of them will die in bed, comforted by their delusions, cared for by the best medicine money can buy and surrounded by opulence that they never earned.

The only punishment any of them will ever see is that which we impose on them.

[Subdivisions]

33. Just got a mention on CNN's AC 360

[shadowknows69]

36. That they had gotten home first???

or just the extension. I'd love to get some media confirmation of this.

[Subdivisions]

42. Yes. AC explained that he had received an email from the father

of one of the soldiers on one of those planes who stated (I'm paraphrasing) "To get these kids home and then send the right back is ridiculous."

[shadowknows69]

45. good, props to Anderson Cooper then

this needs to get out bigger. Its like the 10th is the only div in the military sometimes. This would outrage some Veterans groups that might be on the fence too.

[shadowknows69]

46. Hey can I claim, almost, that I broke this story on DU?

give yourselves a round of applause if so. Do we have a timestamp on my thread Skinner? B-)

[Cabcere]

51. Keep on keeping them honest AC. n/t

[5X]

34. K and R. n/t

[uppityperson]

37. Found a Stars/Stripes article "deployment extended", link here

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=43059
Don't see anything about getting planes turned around, looking more. Edited to add, not doubting, looking to see if anything in media.

[shadowknows69]

38. This stuck out though

"In a separate move, a battalion with the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division that had been sent to Afghanistan to temporarily boost forces will be heading back to Fort Polk, La., the official said."

sounds like they're being sent for theatre specific training. Back to Iraq or Iran maybe.

[Captain Hilts]

39. This kind of thing comes out. Angry troops, spouses, etc.

I remember when the USS Yellowstone got out of the shipyard and the captain did some sharp maneuvers without warning the crew. Equipment went flying all over and people were injured. Word filtered all through Norfolk about it and the captain was relieved.

The press loves to print this kind of thing.

[jgraz]

41. How much do those troops love their country and respect the duty they signed up for?

A lot more than I would, I'm sorry to say. These people deserve so much better than we've given them. It just makes me sick.

[shadowknows69]

43. Good chance they were told if they tried to get off

they'd be shot for desertion too. Do they issues live rounds before you get to theatre? I don't know how I could have stayed on that plane.

[Captain Hilts]

56. Their first loyalty is to their unit and their colleagues. Everything else comes 2nd.

I've talked to wounded at Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval and even some of those missing limbs feel guilty about not being with their units.

[ms liberty]

44. This is sick...K&R n/t

[Cabcere]

48. That's awful!

:cry: I can't f*cking believe this. How DARE the chickenhawks in D.C. claim to "support our troops" and then treat them like this?! I don't know whether to cry or punch something (or someone) - I feel like doing both. :( Our soldiers' jobs are hard enough without having to deal with sh!t like this. For all the talk about "honoring our men and women in uniform," this really doesn't seem like it. :cry: God bless our brave soldiers, and I really hope they can come home soon - and safe. This administration just gets worse every day!

[shadowknows69]

50. Welcome to DU

I don't know if it helps to share the pain but we appreciate you joining us. :hi:

[Cabcere]

54. Thanks

:hi: It's good to be here, although some of the things I've heard through this website are absolutely heartbreaking. But it's very good to know that I'm not alone, and it's great to be surrounded with people who are obviously intelligent, compassionate, and forward-looking! Here's to a better future for all of us. :toast:

[shadowknows69]

52. I'm kicking this fucker all night

or i'll have to start kicking furniture.

[LynzM]

53. Good god, that's awful.

I cannot imagine the pain of thinking you're going home, only to be told to turn around and ship back out. What we're doing to those who are serving is so dispicable, undeserved, awful.

[uppityperson]

55. kick

[shadowknows69]

57. kick

[Vidar]

58. Makes you wish these troops were on the ground & near DC.

[shadowknows69]

59. I hear that

n/t

[ReadTomPaine]

61. Sick and cruel... I should send this to my nephew who signed up for the Marines recently.

I didn't find out until well after he already signed and turned in all his papers. He doesn't think he'll be sent overseas, because the nice recruiter told him so.

:banghead:

[driver8]

62. There was a DU'er talking about this the other night. I think

she was talking about her nephew and said that he was home for 4 days and was going back. He had just finished a year tour.

These chickenhawks are ruthless...absolutely ruthless.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

78. Link to that discussion here~

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x30540

[The Traveler]

63. If there is a God

Georgie boy and his goons WILL roast. This is fuckin' unbelievable.

These guys never stop looking for new ways to screw the soldier.

[driver8]

64. Here is a link from Watertown local news:

http://wwnytv.net/72k/full-story.asp?uid=13329&area=home+page

Feedback: Fort Drum Soldiers Staying In Afghanistan
Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:24am

Update: Fort Drum said Thursday that about 50 soldiers who returned home from Afghanistan will be going back to fight the war on terror over the next few days. Officials also said approximately 150 troops on their way home will be turned around.

On Thursday, North Country Congressman John McHugh, who supported placing more troops in Afghanistan, told 7 News he was disappointed that Fort Drum soldiers would be doing the job rather than deploying new troops.

Soldiers with Fort Drum's 3rd Brigade Combat Team were informed Wednesday that they're not coming home from Afghanistan by the middle of March as originally planned.

The following is a message to families of the troops:

To all Spartan families:


The 3rd IBCT (Spartan Brigade) has been extended four months in Afghanistan on its current deployment


The date of return for the BCT is set at 11 Jun 07 when 51% of the BCT has arrived back at Ft. Drum


The purpose of the extension is to increase the pressure on insurgent elements in Afghanistan with a corresponding troop increase by retaining the 3rd IBCT

[tom_paine]

65. shadow, I do so hope that you are making this up for effect

I cling to the hope that this is hype that you have fabricated for your own reasons.

But I think that you are most likely telling the truth. I was in the service years ago, and remember some of the shit I went through.

Is it plausible? Hell, yes. Would a military run by Bushevik Officers alone (which, after six years of purges and re-purges, is what it is) do such a thing? Sure.

I share your shock and horror at such a thing. And I hope you can understand (and not take it personally), why I would hope this was a fabrication...untrue.

[shadowknows69]

66. You may not know me tom

but I would never fabricate any thing of the sort and believe me I hope its not true either. As I said in another post it is heresay but cabbies keep their ears to the streets and guys that work more than I do would know. I can't comprehend how you think someone would make this up for attention or something.

[tom_paine]

114. Apologies, Shadow, and please don't take it personally

I don't know you, not even really from around the boards, hence my hope. Not because I doubt you per se (I don't know you) but the ferverent hope that such things aren't happening.

As to why anyone would fabricate an untruth as big as that (or bigger), I personally couldn't understand it, either. Human history, however, is replete with millions of stories of people hwo made up big lies, and the reasons they did it are as numerous as the grains of sand on all the beaches of the world.

People make stuff up all the time for all sorts of reasons, soemtimes out of a desire to do good.

Again I apologize if I offended you. It wasn't personal against you. I just want to believe that maybe this isn't happening as you describe.

[uppityperson]

68. I wish so also but think it is real.

I wish so much of this were made up. Checking back in to see if anyone else posted and I see some have. Looking at posts #62 and 64, think this is real.

[The Straight Story]

69. This seems to somewhat confirm

Officials also said approximately 150 troops on their way home will be turned around....

From the post right above yours.

[NavyDem]

67. K&R

Congress needs to act. This has got to be the biggest chickenshit move I've seen by the B* administration to date. :(

[tbyg52]

71. I just screamed and frightened my dogs

DAMN YOU TO HELL THE ENTIRE CABAL!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

73. WH adviser Henry Kissinger had called the military, dumb stupid animals,

to be used as pawns. This was during the Vietnam era, and the "powers that be" obviously consider that to be true.

[shadowknows69]

87. To the letter apparently

Some of the other stories I've heard would boggle your mind. check my journal for a dozen or so tales of this fucked up war. Bring tissues.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

121. I don't think my heart can take much more....... eom

[tom_paine]

115. It is quite clear the Imperial Family views the American "Peasants" as animals

Just as their spiritual and genetic forebears did back in the Dark Ages in Europe.

But we are CITIZENS, not peasants, and THAT is what the Founding Fathers intended.

The Busheviks, had they lived then, would be the bastard aristocratic haters of America that they are now. They would be Tories and they would have helped their sovereign master, King George III, get control of those lowborn upstarts Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, et al.

Of this I am convinced. The Busheviks are Dark Ages Barons/Aristocrats, nothing more. And their ignorant and evil followers are the spiritual descendants of the stupid witch-burners who burned liberals alive when their Busheviks told them to.

Funny thing is, the Imperial Family Bush likely views their followers as little better than animals, too, but rate some standing becuase they are the Bush Family's Animals, lock, stock and barrel.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

122. Beautifully stated. eom

[Hubert Flottz]

74. Email your story to Senator Webb...

Damn!

[Vinca]

75. Let me get this straight - soldiers were flown from Iraq to the U.S.

and the plane landed and immediately left again - without so much as allowing them 5 minutes with their families - for Iraq? You've got to be kidding. If that's true, it needs publicity.

[shadowknows69]

83. Not sure how long they were allowed here

that is what I heard but it is unconfirmable at this point. We DO know that the approximately 200 that had come back last week are being sent right back within 72 hours.

[farmbo]

76. Kicked...to show the gross inhumanity of this administration.

eom

[AllegroRondo]

79. NPR just covered it this morning

they were interviewing families in the Ft Drum area.

While the NPR story did not mention planes turning around, they were very clear that about 200 soldiers who returned in the last week or so are being sent back to Iraq in the next few days, to stay until June. Families are PISSED.

If you really want to break the morale of soldiers, mess with their families. This is not going to be good.

[Oleladylib]

81. I'm looking and listening for the local view..I imagine our reporters

are headed that way.

[shadowknows69]

82. Kicking for the day crowd

and to see if we can get any more confirmation on this from someone who might know someone. Apparently Andersen Cooper touched on it last night in what seemed like a confirmation from an email but anyone else please chime in if you've heard anything.

[dogday]

84. This is a big concern for me because my Son

was in Iraq and returned in November... He is planning a wedding for the end of March and I keep wondering whether he will be able to make it, or if they will call his unit up again. If they do it will be the third time...

[shadowknows69]

86. My thoughts are with your family dogday

I hope your boy makes his wedding. I heard a nightmare tale that one of the guys returning this time around and being sent right back told one of our drivers he had to cancel his, as if one man would make the difference over there they couldn't let this guy stay or come back for his big day. The military needs to start treating our people like heroes and not slaves. There has to be ways to hold together an effective fighting force and still allow its members thier basic human rights and dignities. I hope someone takes some notice finally of the brave marchers in Washington this weekend. I feel so bad I can't go because I feel the one in 2005 go insufficient press.

[AllegroRondo]

100. What unit is he in?

[dogday]

101. 111th Signal Brigade in South Carolina nt

[shadowknows69]

85. By the way if Skinner or anyone else with a professional blog

would want to make me a temporary, official correspondent I could make some calls and try to get to the bottom of this.

[Sweet Freedom]

88. During my brother's first tour or duty

he was on a helicopter, bags packed, leaving Iraq for Germany and was called back. That was Memorial Day weekend. He came home the following February.

Someone else posted that their SIL was home four days this week before he was redeployed.

[shadowknows69]

89. yeah that would be out of the 200 who made it back sporadically last week

I don't know if they are more or less lucky for even having four days. Just unbelievable.

[deadparrot]

90. How mentally agonizing do you think that would be?

I know that after I went on a wonderful vacation to Europe, after a seven-hour flight, all I wanted to do was get home. I can't imagine spending a year in the hellish violence of Afghanistan, half a day or more in the air, then landing, only to turn around and fly back to the Afghanistan.

I'm pretty sure I'd probably break down. I don't know how they do it.

[shadowknows69]

95. We've made some efficient and willing machines in our Army

and we as citizens should be very proud of their absolute faith in their duty. I wish they weren't required to hold one Commander in chief in such high regard though. I think its a fundamental flaw. A body like Congress with many opinions should have greater control over our troops.

[Midlodemocrat]

97. That is beyond cruel.

Heartbreaking, just heartbreaking.

My rage at this administration grows by the minute. How dare they do that?

[Name removed]

103. Deleted message

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[Alamom]

108. Yes, it is. There are no words to describe how this makes anyone

feel. It's so awful.... it makes me sick in my heart for these people and their families.

[Mnemosyne]

104. This is totally heartbreaking and so despicable.

:cry:

I appreciate your reports so much, shadowknows. Thank you.

[shadowknows69]

106. On further information it appears, thankfully, I may have been wrong

at least about the scope of this. The 3,500 arr probably still in Afghanistan. At least 150-200 were turned around nearly as soon as they got home though.

[Initech]

105. Assholes. That's beyond cruel.

That's like the jockey who dangles a carrot in front of a horse.

[Rosemary2205]

109. Excuse me, is this accurate??

They were on the tarmac in NY and were not allowed off the plane and sent back to Iraq instead?

I finding confirmation that they were "on the way home" and turned around but not that they actually got home and then weren't allowed off the plane.

Not that it's much better but I just want to make sure I have the facts straight when I send out my cuss notes and LTTEs.

[Glimmer of Hope]

111. Either way it is truly horrible thing to put these soldiers and their families through.

Unbelievable.

[shadowknows69]

112. Trying to ascertain that

Its probable at this point that at least 50, I claim through personal experience that I think its more, got home last week just to be informed they would be shipping out again within the week. Another 150-200 are the ones who were "turned around" and we're not clear right now if it was in the air or at fort drum. I just found a new source on Fort Drum that I may be able to get some better info from in the future. All statements in theis story are based on secodn and third hand accounts and what has been released to the press which IMO is a little vague.

[StrictlyRockers]

110. Unbelievably wrong!

K&R

[frogcycle]

113. we need some reporters

to find some "deep throat" candidates, and start putting stories like this out DAILY. somewhere there has to be a media outlet that would carry them!

next story on prime time about britney or rosie or whatever while this stuff is being ignored should be a capital offense. our Fourth Estate has abdicated.

[Blue_Roses]

116. Bush is such a moron

he will be remembered as the worst President in the history of the US:mad:

[truedelphi]

119. I git chills reading your post. They had the plane on the Tarmac?

Oh hell oh bloody hell NO!

[mzmolly]

120. Oh lord, that is painful to read.

:(