The WH didn't know VP-W was covert?????

[Raven]

Jesus! Here is someone tasked to go after WMD's and terrorists and they say they didn't know??? I'm almost willing to believe that * and crew are incredibly incompetent...if I didn't already know that they are just plain evil! The more the Republicans talk, the worse it gets for them.

[BOSSHOG]

1. Incrementalism

bush didn't lie turns into he got bad intelligence. limbaugh morfed from she wasn't undercover to no one knows if she was undercover.

At least the white house is on record Now, that Ms Plame was indeed covert. The construction of the gallows should begin immediately.

[emulatorloo]

2. I find it totallly unbelievable. They knew -- too bad Rep Tom Davis (r) isn't under oath

His claims that the outing was just a BOO BOO

[LSK]

3. Logic suggests otherwise

They leaked her name to get back at Wilson. Thats how they could hurt him.

[yellowcanine]

4. Well Novak called her an "agency operative". Later he tried to back off from that but he got the

language somewhere.

"Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction." - column by Robert Novak, July 14, 2003 WP A21.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/20/AR2005102000874.html

[stellanoir]

5. All I can think of is that stupid video of * looking under the furniture

of the Oval Office for WMD's as a joke. All those senseless deaths must seem really funny to the smirk.

Did you catch this angle. . .?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_crede_ca_070306_plame_s_brewster_jen.htm

Couple that with the rumor that Brewster Jennings was hot on pursuing a connection between "crashcart" and AQ Kahn who was running a "nuclear Wal Mart" out of Pakistan and do believe we have an example of "high crimes" indeed.

I'm so relieved to hear some honesty at last. Phew.

[grytpype]

6. I think Fitz didn't charge anyone for the leak because of this.

I think Fitz couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they knew she was covert, they just knew she was CIA and never bothered to check if she was covert. Which makes them unbelievably negligent, incompetent, and stupid, but apparently short of criminal.

[emulatorloo]

7. No I think Fitz didn't charge because Libby LIED about what they did and what they knew.

Only Libby knows what Cheney told him. JMHO.

I think if Fitz could flip Libby we might see somebody charged w the leak.

[grytpype]

9. I tend to disagree.

Libby's lies tended to obscure Cheney's role in the smear campaign and to give the impression that it was "common knowledge" that Plame was CIA, but so far as anyone knows, if Libby told the truth it still wouldn't be established that they knew Plame was covert. There really is a lack of evidence of that.

We know what the truth about Libby's testimony is: that he heard Plame was CIA from Cheney and others and not from Tim Russert. So what does that have to do with them knowing Plame was covert? There's really no connection.

[damntexdem]

10. Since Plame was covert, how did the WH know she was CIA ...

without knowing she was covert? Someone had to tell the WH that she was CIA, presumably someone who knew she was covert. It makes no sense, would be negligence at least, that someone would tell them she was CIA without telling them she was covert.

[Virginia Dare]

13. Exactly...

and that has to be a very small circle of people who would be privy to that knowledge.

[Virginia Dare]

8. The real missing piece of the puzzle..

who was the anonymous source that originally told Cheney that Valerie Plame worked at the CIA? This allegedly happened in early June of 2003? Tenet???

[Sydnie]

11. Maybe no one told him directly

maybe he found it himself while nosing around the CIA headquarters? I mean, he was there often enough to get access to any materials he wanted, when he wanted, and without anyone challenging him at all, wasn't he? Plame testified that his appearances there were intimidating.

[Virginia Dare]

12. You could very well be correct..

I thought about that too. It has to be a very small circle of people who know every agent's covert status.