PLAME #11 (WOOOOOOOOOT!!) OFFICIAL

[helderheid]

#1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424238&mesg_id=424238
#2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424577&mesg_id=424577
and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424583&mesg_id=424583
#3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x424917
#4 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=425279&mesg_id=425279
#5 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=425485&mesg_id=425485
#6 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=425729&mesg_id=425729
#7 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=426051&mesg_id=426051
#8 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=426446&mesg_id=426446
#9 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=426714&mesg_id=426714
#10 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=426973&mesg_id=426973

[tblue]

1. I'm really getting turned on by Henry Waxman

[crispini]

6. Waxman is MY HERO! nt

[tblue]

28. I mean I could give him a Monica for this

[hippiechick]

103. ewwww.

:puke: Henry? Oh.My. :hide:

[blm]

113. Anti-corruption, open government Democrats are the BEST Democrats - PERIOD!

And Waxman is right up there with the best of them.

[LSK]

2. I made a thread dedicated to Mr Knodell, please K&R

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x426655

[underpants]

Done

[dogday]

3. Waxman is throwing down.... nt

[Lars39]

4. Thanks, helderheid !

:loveya:

[Hepburn]

10. Ditto!

Great job and mega appreciated! :hi:

[Jack Rabbit]

18. Me, too.

[Cameron27]

5. k&r

[IChing]

7. Waxman is reading the timeline on what the whitehouse said

and what they did.....which was nothing.

[malaise]

17. PoorDavis wants to look forward not

back. Sorry Tom.

[rodeodance]

19. gee, it is such hard WORK to investigate YOURself.

[benld74]

8. That grinding sound you hear is the White House shredders going full speed!

[myrna minx]

14. I hear the Benny Hill soundtrack wafting

the West Wing.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

77. hahahaha...I was thinking the same thing...

Fred Scuttle on the job...
:rofl:

[Laurab]

9. Anyone know if this will be re-shown? n/t

[POAS]

21. Almost a certainty for over the weekend

Weekend schedule should be up later on the website.

[Laurab]

36. Thank YOU!!! n/t

[POAS]

125. Cspan schedule out now

and last replay appears to be 8PM tonight

[POAS]

11. Can somebody try to find out IF

This Jeffrey A. Thompson is the same as the one who preceedted knodell in his job?

QUoting from previous posting


This may or may NOT be the same guy but a Jeffrey A. Thompson loves to review books at Amazon.

Here is his review ( in part) of "An Inconvenient Truth"

"

7 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
I agree, but ..., February 3, 2007
Al Gore has a very good message and it needs to be heard. He presents it in a powerful way. However, Al has one big problem his ego and an ax to grind. He never knows when to stop. To his credit, he does a decent job of toning down the politics, but he disparages replubicans exclusively. Excuse me, there was the Clinton/Gore whitehouse for 8 years between the Bush's, but nary a word about that presidency. The present administration deserves a lot of heat, but this is a bigger problem than what Bush created. I agree Man is exacerbating global warming, but the whole look at the life of Al Gore and the sacrifices he makes for this cause, slow the movie down immeasureably. I mean if he was likeable, he would have pounded G. W. in the election.

[aquart]

66. How many times can you spam this?

It's a COMMON name.

[POAS]

88. Thanks for being so kind....

[The Witch]

12. In memory of Snotty Scotty...

Allow me to repost these images.





hee hee. BBQ time!

[Lars39]

15. LOL

I miss him so. :rofl:

[helderheid]

13. READ THIS LAST POST ON THREAD 10

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Response to Original message
118. I just talked to Waxman's office.

Talked to a very pleasant woman.
I told her I could find nothing on the web or at the White House dot gov website when I searched for "James Knodell" nor for "Office of White House Security" nor for "Director of White House Security".

Also, he is not on the 'official' list of 2006 White House staff.
I told her I was very confused.
Who is this guy, where does he work, and who does he work for?
Is he not 'staff'?

She said she believed he was and would pass my question along to Rep. Waxman.

[myrna minx]

22. Whoa!

I need to read that again.

[trof]

23. Thanks, re-posted below.

[dogday]

26. He is a White House Stooge

I am telling you what... This guy is your typical Sgt Schultz....

[POAS]

30. WOOOT

[Occulus]

35. Is it even *possible* that they sent a "fake" to the hearing?

I'd say not, except that this admin has already pulled so many 'impossible' stunts, I feel like I have to consider everything as a possibility...

[malaise]

44. Very interesting

http://www.leadershipprofiles.com/preview.asp?docid=561610&t=0

Why is everything blank here?

[rodeodance]

48. so, he isa MYSTERY man?

[LSK]

54. see here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=426655&mesg_id=427140

[trof]

74. Good sleuthing. No, GREAT sleuthing. Thanks. n/t

[kestrel91316]

61. How do we know this guy is even WHO he says he is?

I think they ought to demand identification and do a thorough background check on him!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

MSM coverage -- or non-coverage -- will be very telling

on how the corporate sh*its are taking this in.

[Laurab]

27. It's a headline on MSNBC on my computer

so, looks good so far!

[NewJeffCT]

34. CNN.com and CBSnews.com both have Plame as well

on their front pages

[tridim]

42. This hearing is gigantic news, there's no way they can ignore it

But I'm sure Faux and CNN will try.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

43. Van Hollen -- no investigation -- no info on WH leaks....

bwahahahahahahah

[trof]

16. Just called Waxman's Washington office.

Talked to a very pleasant woman.
I told her I could find nothing on the web or at the White House dot gov website when I searched for "James Knodell" nor for "Office of White House Security" nor for "Director of White House Security".

Also, he is not on the 'official' list of 2006 White House staff.
I told her I was very confused.
Who is this guy, where does he work, and who does he work for?
Is he not 'staff'?

She said she believed he was and would pass my question along to Rep. Waxman.

[helderheid]

24. Great minds - just posted your post - EXCELLENT and THANK YOU for calling!!

[myrna minx]

29. James Knodell: The man that wasn't there.

:wow:

[helderheid]

124. Did you start a seperate thread on this? If not, you should!

[Hepburn]

20. Asshole Davis....

....still on partisan issue...but now a switch to: Let's make sure this does not happen again. What? He is NOW admitting that the WH did something wrong? Am I hearing this correctly????

[eleny]

Davis: Oversight isn't to look back but ahead

WTF?

[rodeodance]

58. it is the WH mantra---over the years they have said this.

[tblue]

59. Exactly what I'd expect a Republic sheep to say

[WinkyDink]

32. Here's how: NEVER AGAIN have a Republican in the WH!!

A girl can dream, can't she?!

[Norquist Nemesis]

38. Yeah, that list of things he'd like to try to pin on Waxman for overlooking

is the same list of events that occurred while HE was chair. Where was HIS investigation?

[eleny]

47. Books could be written about these hearings of today

[tblue]

64. Please 'splain

[Norquist Nemesis]

85. He listed a bunch of things about "leaks"

NIE, Abu Graib, etc. Things HE failed to have hearings about but is whining because the Committee is having a hearing on this.

[LSK]

41. he used to Chair this committee, didnt he?

[Norquist Nemesis]

45. Yup! During the entire time that those things he listed occurred. n/t

[LSK]

25. Can Rep Davis be any more of a partisan whore?

:shrug:

[Hepburn]

40. IMO...

...only if he were caught giving KKKarl a BJ.

[rodeodance]

31. That idiot red haired Pepug is up AGAIN!

[Hepburn]

55. LOL....and trying for damage control...

...and NOT making it.

[Bandit]

33. Sizzling..Democrats are sizzling and I sure wouldn't want to be defending

the Administration in this hearing today...WOW just WOW...

[Whoa_Nelly]

37. What is not being said in the hearing today, but is most definitively clear...

Over 3100 US troops killed in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens displaced, maimed, killed, using the "mushroom cloud"--Saddam proliferation of WMD lies by abusing the Niger report to gain PNAC goals, makes the Bush administration the most despicable, horrendous, and criminal administration in US history; The Nixon administration crimes pale when compared to what BushCo has done.

Today I am a proud American as I watch and listen to Valerie Plame.

Maybe today's testimony by Plame will bring cause and genuine action to dismantle BushCo.



Thanks, helderheid, for keeping the posts going! :hi:

[valerief]

51. Nixon was in office since '68. Vietnam ended in '75. Many died.

edited for spelling

[Cerridwen]

39. I think this link is to #3, helderheid

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x424917

[helderheid]

46. thanks, I'll fix the OP!

[Cameron27]

49. Hollen just shot down Davis' cya pitch about

Fitzgerald's investigation.

[Sydnie]

50. Competeing priorities?

:wtf: How can you stop it if you don't know how it happened. They were hoping Justice would do their job and they could just keep doing freshmen orientations!

[IChing]

52. Dem.Rep Chris Van Hollen is up and kicking butt

the regulations and investigations are obligated by the white house by law.......
According to the Director of Archives.

[WinkyDink]

53. Rep. Van Hollen: "Nothing prohibits you, no statute, to prevent an investigation

at the same time as a criminal one." AGREED TO!

[Blackhatjack]

56. "Mr. Knodel What Exactly Have You Been Doing the Last 2.5 years in this job?"

[DemReadingDU]

67. apparently, not much

like any Republican

[trof]

57. At least Bill Leonard appears to be a 'real' person. Bio:

J. William Leonard
Director, Information Security Oversight Office
Professional

J. William Leonard

Director, ISOO

Bill Leonard, a native of New York City, was appointed as the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) in June 2002. As such, he is responsible to the President of the United States for policy oversight of the Government-wide security classification system and the National Industrial Security Program. ISOO receives its policy and program guidance from the National Security Council (NSC) and is an administrative component of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).
http://www.archives.gov/isoo/about/director.html

[Greeby]

60. Hodes is back

:popcorn:

[POAS]

62. Hodes turn to kick ass and not disappointing

[POAS]

71. Knodell just peed I think

[Cameron27]

Hodes

tick, tick, tick...it's coming.

[Hepburn]

63. Watch carefully when No-Tell gets up to leave....

...there is gonna be blood all over his back from a MILLION very well directed stiletto cuts. The Dems are HOT today. This is just the very best.

[Blackhatjack]

65. Oh Boy! Knodel would have had to do Rove's Security Check in 2006....

... and he says he does not know. Less than truthful.

[ROakes1019]

68. Chris VanHollen

One of the sharpest people in Congress is Van Hollen. He knows how to get straight to the matter of things. All the Dems today have been great, however. Hodes up now, going after Rove's security clearance. Have you ever seen such a bunch of know-nothings as members of the Bush administration? They can't even lie with panache.

[Eurobabe]

69. Info on Swendiman

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/11/text/20061129-1.html

The President has named Alan Swendiman to be Special Assistant to the President and Director, Office of Administration. Mr. Swendiman previously served as General Counsel of the General Services Administration. He received his bachelor's degree from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and his JD from Georgetown University Law Center.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

70. Somebody should ask Knodell...

if he used to be in charge of thoroughbred horse breeding.

[speedoo]

80. LOL!

Great comment!

Heckuva job Knodie!!

[kohodog]

81. Do you think this guy could breed horses???

He is the ultimate description of an empty suit.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

Remember a guy named "Brownie?"

[kohodog]

105. Who could forget, but he was in charge of the Arabian Horse association

or some such. I wonder what this guy did previously!

[speedoo]

97. Yes, true.

I felt sorry for him, at times. But he's just another human being, used by BushCo for their own evil purposes.

[Graybeard]

106. Another crony placed in an important position...

...but with no intention of him doing his job. This is the contempt that BushCo has for the American people and our government.

[LSK]

72. when was Libbys clearance removed? the day he resigned - IM SHOCKED

THEY DID ONE THING RIGHT!!!

[WinkyDink]

75. At the last minute. When they knew he was a cooked goose.

[POAS]

76. Why do I doubt that answer?

[Sydnie]

73. He IS senior management

We've already established that he will discuss it with himself!

[valerief]

79. I wish someone would hand him a mirror.

[Sydnie]

84. Hammer - meet nail!

Damn if you didn't nail that one!

[helderheid]

86. You deserve a DUzy!!!

:rofl:

[rateyes]

78. The fire is hitting the feet....

Yes, I'll go find out whether we should investigate Rove's security clearance, and get back to you.

Ruh roh!!!!

[POAS]

83. How will Hannity spin this tnight........

[Jackpine Radical]

115. Spin what? Anna Nicole's baby? Wouldn't that be cruel?

[rateyes]

123. Had to go away from the computer...turned on

Hannity's radio show to find out...he's still spinning with Toensing's "she wasn't covert" line. POS liar.

[Ian David]

82. Libby maintained his classified security clearance until the day he resigned!?!? n/t

[Sydnie]

89. Which means the day he was indicted

don't let that fact get lost here!

[LSK]

87. how soon till Knodell "resigns for personal reasons"

[JackBeck]

90. Spend more time with his family...

:eyes:

[malaise]

93. He sure looked stressed

One more Rethug nailed to the wall.

[Norquist Nemesis]

91. Norton to Knowdel: "You truly are the fall guy here"

Bingo!

[crispini]

92. Haha, another 'fall guy'

when will we get through with the fall guys?

[ronnykmarshall]

98. That's what I was thinkin'.

[ronnykmarshall]

94. They're off the hot seat!

I wonder if they will head straight to the can and throw up?

[seafan]

112. Knodell, in non-response to last question, "I'm good." with palms up.

He has been thoroughly destroyed.

[LSK]

95. new panel, new thread? hint hint

:)

[Beelzebud]

96. Now it's Victoria's turn in the hot seat!

[trof]

104. Time for a fresh thread for Toensing?

[Blackhatjack]

111. Ms. Victoria T. appears to be pleased to be here.....

Look at the bright side, she gets to tell her 'lies' under oath, and if she does so she can get a prison sentence.

[Norquist Nemesis]

Panel 3 up!

:popcorn:

Toensing, prepared to be fried

[ClayZ]

99. Are you the Fall Guy! (who sent the flack catchers?)

[helderheid]

100. THREAD #12 IS UP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x427503

[suffragette]

101. Waxman "The White House has done virtually nothing"

[Eurobabe]

102. Toensing up now, red hair and all

Does she get her hair dyed in Germany?

[crispini]

107. this Mark Zaid guy's been at his job for 15 years? he looks like he's about 21. nt

[rodeodance]

108. good thread here also:

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Press knew Bush WH wasn't investigating Plame outing and still PROTECTED him
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x427375#427375
427375, Press knew Bush WH wasn't investigating Plame outing and still PROTECTED him
Posted by blm on Fri Mar-16-07 12:29 PM

when Kerry brought it up throughout the campaign. How often did Kerry say that Bush couldn't even find the leaker in the WH so how could we trust him to search for Bin Laden? Just about every appearance he made I heard that point made in some form.

Why did the corporate media refuse to take up that question throughout the entire campaign?

The media ALREADY knew the WH was lying about their involvement, but why did they choose to look the other way after Bush specifically said the WH would investigate who leaked and hold them accountable? The questions for WH security chief today about the promised investigation shouldn't have had to be asked by Waxman today - it should've been asked EVERYDAY throughout 2003 and 2004 by the WH presscorps.

Media never PRESSED Bush or his spokespeople throughout that time on this investigation. THAT is why the lies about it never mattered to them.

The next investigation needs to be about the COMPLICITY of the media in this entire matter.

Time for corporate media to be held accountable for their part in protecting the White House for so long on this matter.

[WinkyDink]

109. Oooh, this Zaid guy is coming out with a gangbusters tone!

Can't wait until he's whimpering!

[Mabus]

114. I want see Victoria squirm

Hopefully the Daily Show or KO will intersperse her claims that Valerie wasn't a covert operative with Valerie's sworn testimony that she was.

I can't wait for Victoria's turn.

:popcorn:

[Jackpine Radical]

118. What is it? What is

Victoria's secret?

[Mabus]

119. dupe

[Mabus]

120. The name of the alternative universe she lives in/is from?

More likely, she's protecting the name of her hairdresser to protect his/her cosmetology license.
:rofl:

[youthere]

110. I wonder if Rove will have Knowdell's office cleared out for him by the time he gets back.

[myrna minx]

116. Why not just pin a Medal of Freedom to his pink slip. n/t

[Sydnie]

117. GAG ME!

Big Media Whore Time.

[Jack Rabbit]

121. Ms. Toensing is giving her definition of "is"

She is playing a lawyer's word games.

[WinkyDink]

122. hee! "Here was a woman serving her country, risking her life---and I don't know what Goldwater

was doing."