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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:07 PM Original message |
Why is it wrong to resort to violence? |
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thraxis (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because it's illegal and not very nice. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. There are just and unjust laws |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts" |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. I see nothing wrong with using force and violence, when necessary. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I changed the question a bit to include "as a first resort" n/t |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Well, then,.... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I'm sorry I forgot to post that part! n/t |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
55. In fact I'm going to preemptively stop him from hitting me in the face |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Because no one knows 100% that they are right or wrong |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Thank you! Wow. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Haha...I try to be fair to the subject, since it is important. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
48. So Absolutism |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. You have good points, but realize, I was playing Devil's advocate... |
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summer borealis (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. No one at Lexington or Concord asked that. |
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plaintiff (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. But we must remember those people were traitors. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. He who throws the first blow loses the moral high ground. That's just the way it is. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It isn't so simple |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. The only"moral ground" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hey, you got to do what you got to do. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. Because, if you can't see anything wrong with it out of principle, then you should |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Bigger stick? Not true exactly.... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Because using violence as a first resort is what |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. Because they will kill you for it. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. ***Just an FYI, I changed the OP after some of the comments were already posted.*** |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's counterproductive |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Thank you for your thoughtful response! n/t |
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Kip Humphrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. What kind of world do you want to create by your actions? A peaceful one or a violent one? /nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
23. Because online interactions are archived, its not a good idea to state obvious truths. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Well, I didn't read the whole "first resort" thing. That makes it a no-brainer. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Good point about the tyrant and water. n/t |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. Countdown kick. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. Generally, that's what weak people say. Read The Geneaology of Morals for the full story. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Thank you. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. because violence breeds violence, and then more violence. Violence is horny. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Drill, baby, drill! n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Snort! |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. Because the violence would never stop. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Distinguish |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Who is the "oppressor" and who is "oppressed" is often subjective. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. The first objective of any government is to establish a monopoly on violence. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Thank you for your links! n/t |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. A Pleasure To See Someone Else State It Flatly, Sir |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Well, it's one of those seminal themes that leads to better understanding of politics. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. Exactly Tahiti!! |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. Where do we draw the line? |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. We have to eventually take a RISK |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. My post was in response to the edited OP in which the OP stated |
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Norwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. Its not |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
41. Violence |
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Poseidan (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
42. because we are not dumb beasts! |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. We are not beasts |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. Violence leads to more violence. Period. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Depends on how it is applied |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. In the macro, only massive violence forces change |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Things change,We change. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. What if the society in question has already stopped progressing |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Then it wouldn't be the first resort |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
53. Thursday morning kick. n/t |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. My take is that it would be ineffective. |
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