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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:28 PM
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"The Chart".


Not sure if this has been posted in image format yet.
Download the PDF from http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316173308-19288.pdf , linked at http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1205&Issue=Disclosure+of+CIA+Agent+Identity

Please grab this image & redistribute so as not to kill my photobucket account!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:34 PM
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1. I noticed right away how Cheney and Rove seemed to get their infomation
...out of thin air
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:40 PM
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3. the black square labeled "Unknown"...........
...eeeepppp....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:54 PM
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7. And Libby is going to jail to protect "Unknown's" identity?
I assume "Bush" is off playing his Gameboy or something, why isn't that jackass on the list?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:25 AM
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26. No, Libby's protecting Cheney who no doubt told him to leak Plame's identity.
Scooter didn't leak her identity on his own initiative.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:38 PM
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2. Thanks...
This is great. I saw it on TV, but couldn't read everything....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:41 PM
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4. THANKS forposting this chart. I saw it on CNN & MSNBC. but it was
way too small and only up for a short time. NOW I have a chance to actually read it. It's a very good way of pulling a very spotty story together and makes it easy to understand.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:43 PM
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5. Aren't visual aids great nm
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:46 PM
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6. This whole chart is a question.
And, it's the right question.

Someone's going down, and I think people are working hard not to be first in line.

I can't wait to see DU's annotations.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:11 AM
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19. I can't wait for DUers to work on this chart as well. nm
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:55 PM
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8. Thanks, that makes things clearer
and given that this case is becoming increasingly complicated, that's helpful.

The "Unknown" is worrying though.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:03 PM
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9. Thank you!
What busy treasonous beavers they were.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:06 PM
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10. Thanks! Copied to my photobucket account, too ...


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:09 PM
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11. Colorful web of conspiracy.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:27 PM
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12. It'd be better with "leak sequence numbers" on it.
It'd take research but if every arrow were labeled "1" "2a" "2b" and so on, it'd make even more sense. An appendix that described each leak, in order, would be an awesome reference ... a really good addendum to DU's Research Forum.

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:29 PM
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13. They forgot Tweety
Afterall, the chart makes it quite obvious...Wilson's wife was fair game.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:18 AM
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25. Matthews wasn't leaked to. He was on Scooter's shit list.
Rove told Matthews "Wilson's wife is fair game" after Novak's column was published.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:32 PM
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14. thanks, I was looking for this earlier
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:34 PM
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15. Is the unknown
Kyle Foggo? Where is he these days?
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:43 AM
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20. Indicted just a month ago today
Carole Lam's last hurrah before being pushed out of the US Attorney's office.

Thanks, Carole! Happy one-month anniversary, Dusty! Hope you celebrate next Feb 17 inside a cell!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/02/13/cia.foggo/index.html
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:36 PM
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16. frontpage
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:38 PM
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17. Insert State Department Memorandum shared on Africa trip.
Some people get more arrows pointing at their box.

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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:02 AM
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18. I think Cheney met her and knew exactly who she was
Look at the chart. After all, this is the group at the CIA he was leaning on they knew he made inquiries about Niger and I'm sure many other things that could not be discussed at today's hearing and they probably felt the pressure of his "numerous" visits.

I got the feeling that whether Val had previously met Cheney specifically was a question that could not be asked today.

Think about it, she's a senior undercover officer in counterproliferation dealing with Iraq WMD, why wouldn't he know her?

Could it be he purposely took down the network that could prove him a liar? Now THAT is TREASON....
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:29 AM
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24. Yep. That's what I think, as well.
I was disappointed that Valerie Plame wasn't asked when and where, if at all, she'd met any of the individuals on that chart. I've gotta believe Cheney was briefed and she was present and introduced during one or more of the six or seven personal visits he made to Langley, if not before.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:14 AM
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33. They Had An EXTENSIVE List Of Things They COULDN'T Ask
I'll bet the Cheney question was on there.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:08 AM
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21. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:12 AM
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22. I'm offended!
Why does the "Unknown" have to be shaded in black huh?

:sarcasm:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:22 AM
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23. I Dunno... I Somebody's Darker Than Darth Cheney...
I'm gonna have some serious nightmares tonight!

:hide::scared::wow::scared::hide:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:25 AM
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27. "Operation Human Shield...
... my ass!" :D



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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:08 AM
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32. Swamp!
:hi:
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:36 AM
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28. Maybe when we refer to the "unknown" we should just type * to represent them nt
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:47 AM
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29. Added to my photobucket too and then posted
in the DU Research Forum under CIA Leak.

Ain't this a grand chart?
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:20 AM
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30. This is a good time to re-read "The Stovepipe" by Seymour Hersch
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2003/10/27/031027fa_fact

It may shed some light now on who Unknown may be.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:46 AM
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31. Kick!! n/t
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 02:14 PM
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34. K&R
:thumbsup:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:24 PM
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35. My, my, my...
Gregory made the chart, eh?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:33 PM
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36. Dan Bartlett is missing from this chart.
He told Fleischer also.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:44 PM
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37. Soooo.....a list of all the possibilities for UNKNOWN?
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 03:44 PM by Hepburn
Could we do that and see where we go from there?

My first thought was *, but that does not seem to fit. It had to be someone from the CIA that originally gave out the info. So, I say either George T or Foggo.

Opinions????

Edit for typo
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:55 PM
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38. I thought Armitage told Pincus? n/t
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:06 PM
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39. First, thanks for the easier to read chart.
I guess I wasn't the only one squinting at screen shots. :D

Now, my :tinfoilhat: began to tingle when another poster asked where shrub would get his info. My first thought was from senior bush; former CIA director and I've read somewhere, he still receives regular briefings?

I don't know Valerie Plame's history with the CIA - was she there when senior was? Is that where shrub got his info?

Again, just a bit of a tingle to address.

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