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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:14 AM
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Just what we need. "GodMen", macho Christianity "where faith gets DANGEROUS!"
There is a new trend in religion: macho Christianity — a movement started by men who say traditional church services are just too feminine and sissy.

Nationwide less than four in 10 churchgoers are men, and the men in this movement say it's because men need a religious outlet that's more masculine.

In a rented space in a Tennessee shopping mall, masculine religion is championed by GodMen, a group that conducts daylong sessions of stunts and speeches. The sessions, according to GodMen's founder, comic Brad Stine, are intended to toughen up Christian men.

"It's about men stepping up and being strong again," Stine said.

Men need movements like GodMen because Christians have been taught about a Jesus who's too nice to be real, said life coach and Christian radio show host Paul Coughlin. The leaders of GodMen contend that church, as most men know it, has gotten too sissy.

"A meek and mild Jesus… eventually is a bore," he said.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2953421
http://www.godmen.org/
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:31 AM
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1. Overwhelm them with love and flowers!
:D



Maybe the "feminine," nurturing Christians, who love Jesus and world peace, will eventually drive out or convert the war-lovin', macho x-tians? :shrug:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:37 AM
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2. So a decade ago it was the promise keepers and now it's rowdy roddy piper?
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 03:56 AM by pepperbear
edited to add:

Their site makes them look like

A. A skin head band or

B. A militia group or

c. The WWF or

d. the USMC, which is fine except you know....it's a church.


More like the....




...to me.

:rofl:

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:52 AM
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3. the sacrament is Jack Danials and hard tack..
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:34 AM
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13. The "He-Man Woman Haters Club!" I Love It!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

L...is for way you look at me...
O...is for the only one I see...
V...is very very...extraordinary...
E...is (whatever, I forget what "e" is right now).

THIS is the song these macho men should be singing in their manly man churches! Ann Coulter would have a field day.

(this is probably the most unsubstantial post I've posted here but oh well! :)
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:55 AM
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4. Wasn't there a movie called "Last of the Godmen"?
I think Tom Berenger was in it.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:04 PM
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41. There was a movie called "The Apostle"... that's what this reminds me of...
chant and response... JESUS! Then go to jail for hitting somebody with a baseball bat...

yeah, that's Real Christianity, that is.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:13 PM
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47. that was a Rbt. Duvall film....and quite good...
...Duvall said films had never portrayed simple rural southern preachers like he'd grown up around accurately, so he made that film. He said he had a lot of respect for preachers like that....and if you see the film, you become aware of his respect.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:46 PM
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54. Respect for the devotion to beliefs...
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 08:49 PM by Labors of Hercules
but understanding the irony when acting on belief creates negative consequences...

I think this was actually Duvall's best role.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:29 PM
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44. Uh.. it was "Last of the Dogmen."
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 05:29 PM by Capn Sunshine
Tom Berringer was indeed in it.

I feel your dyslexia , brother.
God<------------------>Dog

Two ends of the same stream of consciousness?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:58 PM
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57. I should've used the "sarcasm icon"
Still, with my title it would've been better.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:18 AM
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5. ...
:crazy:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:27 AM
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6. Now are we talking macho as in.....
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 04:28 AM by pepperbear





or......?





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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:24 AM
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7. What are these men looking for even turning up for such things?
I can not understand why so many people are worried about if they fit into some type of a sex roll that they will do the most silly things to prove what sex they are. It has to be like women who are always making something bigger to be more like a women. I frankly do not understand all this thinking. I must have missed something growing up.
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:57 AM
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16. It comes out of the belief that men have been feminized by liberals and homosexuals.
Just ask Ann Coulter. She knows all about it :eyes:

I like being a guy and doing guy things, but I also like some traditionally non-male activities such as cooking. I don't care for organized sports worth a hilt but I do enjoy hiking, fishing, boating, camping, etc. I do the dishes, but I also like woodworking and refinishing furniture.

Does that make me a sissy feminine male? They'd probably say, "Man, you don't go washing dishes and cooking! You git yaw woman to do that kind'a womans work, and you get yaw ass out in the yard and cut the grass, or work on yaw car, or watch the game on the TV and have yaw little woman git yaw some brewskis like she's supposed to. A womans place is in the home dontcha know! Now wise up and tell her what's what, you're a man and you ain't gonna do her womans work for her anymore."
:puke:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:41 AM
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21. are you married? you sound perfect
:)
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:22 PM
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33. Believe me, nobody is perfect...
It's one of the first things you learn in any marriage, despite how good it may look on the outside.

But thanks anyway for the kind words! :blush:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:49 AM
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24. Best cooks have always been men and who do you think made
all that lovely furniture that has been around for 100's of years. This business is just to silly for words and so far I have not got any of my children to play it. I can recall my sister thinking it was nuts to wear a skirt to school in mid-winter in Maine so went right to the school board and got a slip to wear slacks. In my days girls had to dress right to go to school. She did the same thing when she wanted to take shop in high school. We all fit into the times we were born to a point. On the whole the family has not got into the swing of this crazy stuff and I am so glad. I have never worried about being a women, I am one, and it is just a fact. My male family seem to think they same about being male. We all do the jobs we like and to heck if they are to go to one sex or not. I wonder how the Church people got into this stuff?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:51 AM
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25. Except
**They'd probably say, "Man, you don't go washing dishes and cooking!**


Except BBQ, chili and stew. It's OK for men to cook those...or any cooking on the grill...fine masculine activities and you can clean your gun at the same time.
Lee
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:49 PM
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30. Reaction to the "Sensitive '80s Male"
I honestly don't know who promoted that piece of work the most, but I suspect it was either the media or some guy who wanted to promote himself to get laid by "intellectual" women.

From the mid/late 1970s, throughout the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a lot of male-bashing in our media, and it was something men were (unlike women who've heard it for ages) completely unaccustomed to. The Sensitive '80s Male was a bit of a defense/response to that, and it was one of the worst things anyone could ever perpetrated on 49% of Americans.

John Bly got laughed at, but he had a good point to make.

Now the pendulum is swinging back. Some guys have no problems being guys and enjoying being guys, others are uptight. They need more assistance, those ones.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:40 AM
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8. Regardless how a myth is spun...
...Its still a myth.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:59 AM
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9. Oh, bull.
Yet another fundie splinter sect. I don't see this one catching on, thankfully.

Those idiots need to go read the New Testament. The whole point of Christianity was supposed to be peace and love. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, organized religion had its usual detrimental (to put it very mildly) and corrupting effect on something that could have brought enlightenment and peace.

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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:35 AM
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10. GodMen Messenger Bag, $29.99 (um, it's a purse, guys)
You guys used to beat up honor roll students and chess nerds for carrying these, about 20 years and 40 pounds ago ... ya fat Bible-screeching sissies.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:31 AM
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11. :)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:35 AM
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12. Will they be selling Jesus Jockstraps?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:45 AM
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14. I hear there's gonna be a cross-burnin' down by the river.
Get yur macho man hood and cape and join up!
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:47 AM
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15. It's amazing how many corruptions of Christianity man devises...including this one >


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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:03 AM
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17. Somebody call the local Army recruiters office and tell them it would be a good spot to hangout. nt
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:05 AM
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18. If you wanna see a crowd scatter quickly. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:38 AM
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19. So they are calling the real Jesus a sissy?
:crazy:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:54 PM
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31. Jesus who drove out the money changers? Jesus who outran the legionaries?
Jesus was in great shape. Next time you're in a Catholic church, check out that six-pack!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:41 PM
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46. The Jesus that spent 40 days in the desert alone?
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 05:42 PM by camero
How many of these millionaire wannabes could do that?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:39 AM
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20. this isn't Christianity.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:42 AM
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22. Why not skip the middle ground and just go straight to the KKK?
Seriously. What is the difference between this and the KKK?

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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:44 AM
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23. So this ministry is about worshipping the golden peepee
so that they'll believe they are "godly" when they see their manhood in the mirror.

Sounds to me like they missed the boat on this one. I don't know any heterosupremacist men who need to tithe to some speak-to-the-sky ministry in order to worship their own peepee.

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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:53 AM
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26. "Real Men"
Real men can do whatever they want, including eat quiche and crochet, if they so desire. It's only sissy men who worry about their images, who feel emasculated by sharing household duties, etc. Real men...and women...don't give a flying fuck about how they come across to others.

Lee
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:11 PM
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27. BLACKWATER!! Bush's Private Army is run by Evango-Whackos!
Democracy Now did a GREAT piece on BlackWater back in January-
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/26/1559232&mode=thread&tid=25
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:12 PM
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28. After the Airing of the Grievances, The Feats of Strength
Why don't these doofi just celebrate Festivus?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:40 PM
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Misspelled dupe - delete
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 12:44 PM by kestrel91316
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:40 PM
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29. I really don't trust this sort of "christianity", but then I happen to
think the goal of the fundie dominionists is to ultimately kill/destroy all of us who aren't just like them.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:08 PM
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32. Ummm ... not THE God-Man ?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:24 PM
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34. Yeah...
:puke:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:22 PM
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35. Mmmmm..... That idea sounds familiar....
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:28 PM
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36. Guns & Jesus. Sounds perfect for * & Cheney.
:eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:35 PM
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37. Why don't they admit they worship
the fucking devil then and make sure they keep up their testosterone shots and keep the 'roids flowin'?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:41 PM
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38. They engage in 'more forceful expressions of their faith'?
What do they do, slam their chests together while screaming "GOD IS LOVE DAMMIT!!!" ? Do they drink beer or whiskey instead of wine for communion? I suppose they scratch their privates when they want instead of waiting until they think nobody is looking?

Aye.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:00 PM
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40. I think they force-feed the hungry, ambush the naked for "What's Not to Wear",
and drag the sick to hospitals and PAY THEIR BILLS for them, by GOD!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:57 PM
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39. This is how they "reconcile" their thuggish, greedy, violent Republicanism
with claims to be "Christian".

Or, as The Donald put it, "Lies. All lies."
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:12 PM
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42. Chestbeaters Incorporated
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 05:30 PM by SalmonChantedEvening
Among other things... :smoke:

Is there a tire swing? Some old truck fenders?

And as for the 'stunts', ABC was wise to leave it at that. :)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:24 PM
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43. I hope there's a mandatory steroid testing program in place.
Don't want anyone "Juicing For Jesus" now do we? I mean, what's more masculine than bigger/faster/stronger/more aggressive, right? Sigh.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:35 PM
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45. Again, welcome to Bush's Amerika
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HRC_in_08 Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:15 PM
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48. Jackass for Jesus. new MTV show. eom.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:16 PM
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49. "Blessed be the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth."
:eyes:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:18 PM
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50. Old news, history has many macho so called Christian slaying
those that disagree with them, the concept is nothing new.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:19 PM
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51. Oh but aunty, now they are calling their own Savior a sissy.
This sect is out and out saying they don't want no more mamby pamby Jesus.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:22 PM
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52. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny, not wanting to walk the
walk that Jesus himself walked not talk the talk...simply mind boggling..
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:41 PM
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53. Aren't they kind of missing the point of Christianity?
Seems to me like they are pretty insecure about their sexuality. Of course, I've always thought all Christian Fundamentalist men were just a bunch of raging closet cases to begin with.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:50 PM
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55. Ooh! Good job religion! Now they can join up with SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!
Monster truck rallies.

Excellent business-op recognition on the part of religion.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:52 PM
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56. Nothing like a good bit of penis wagging...
to go along with scripture.:eyes:
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