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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:36 AM
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With a GOP war on, we're supposed to play nice?


Right now it may seem like all rainbows and roses, but the reality of governing a rabid GOP will set in quickly, once our president takes office.

The party is cornered and will become more vicious than we thought possible. If Obama reaches his hand across the aisle for bi-partisan support, he'll pull back a bloody stump.

GUARANTEED!!!!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:37 AM
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1. Hopefully it won't be his bill signing hand.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:00 AM
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17. Isn't OUR NEW PRESIDENT left-handed?
So he can reach across the aisle with his right hand ... to slap some fucking sense into them.

:rofl:

Bake
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:37 AM
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2. Thanks for the cheery post. It's especially poignant for those
of us still basking in the glory of an Obama presidency. :eyes:
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:38 AM
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5. grow up.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:39 AM
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6. No, you grow up. Give it a rest and enjoy a victory...for a change. nt
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:59 AM
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15. **hugz** We can bask a while longer sister :)
But after January 20th, really NO later than Xmas, we need to start fighting back, even HARDER than before!
These assholes won't stop, they won't realize they were thrown out because THEY are the REAL enemies
of the democratic ideal.

We can never rest on our laurels :(

CONSTANT VIGILANCE....

But even Mad Eye Moody partied once in a while :)
:evilgrin::party::toast::hug::patriot:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:37 AM
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3. playing nice, much like Daschle and Gephardt did helped to create this mess
just because the neocons lost doesn't mean they're finished. They'll continue to be vocal and peddle their brand of 'reality', so fighting back with the Truth is definitely in order, IMO.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:38 AM
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4. I agree with you
and that was why it was so important to get at least 60 Senators. Without the 60, it's going to be an uphill battle.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:40 AM
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7. if they can't ram legislation through with the majority they have now,


then none of them are worth much. We used to get a lot more done with less mandate, because we actually had skilled politicians who knew how to jawbone and armtwist. Now we have to have a filibuster proof majority? How sad.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:43 AM
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8. Remember what they did to Clinton.
They gave him no quarter, and hounded him on personal issues, lies, and slanders his whole administration, finally getting something that stuck a little bit and turning it into an impeachment. (Did we really impeach a president over a blow job?).

So, yeah, this election was the easy part. Every day, every step, of Obama's administration will make this election look like a cakewalk.

The good news is that we have Congress and that Obama is not as battered going in as Clinton was. And his views aren't as liberal as what Clinton tried to do at first, so he won't get as much resistance from his own party as Clinton did. No Sam Nunn to deal with. So maybe he'll catch until his first controversial action. I doubt it, though.

Someone tried to kill Clinton by crashing a plane into the White House, don't forget. Others stood outside the White House and fired bullets into it. Some actually hit inside the building. Our enemy is pscyhotic and violent, and I'm not talking about our external enemies.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:44 AM
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9. You use diplomacy to take advantage of the situation instead of waging war
Reach out to the moderate republicans for your bipartisan support, and let the fundies fend for themselves. It will further drive apart the republicans, and give the Democrats more power. It is all about taking control of the center.

Mudslinging is the republicans game, and they do better with a divided nation. Let's start thinking strategy instead of tactics
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:49 AM
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12. Plenty of opportunities...
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:49 AM by jeepnstein
will be there for the taking. The GOP will fracture for a while and it's a good time to start driving wedges.

I wonder if our President-elect is smart enough to take advantage of these little openings? You betcha.
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ChrisMCV Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:47 AM
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10. understand the difference between pols and people
Part of why I come here is to remember that although opposed politically, we need to try to understand each others positions, agree or not.

I do harbor some severe distrust of some democratic politicians, not all, but some.

I also know many dems in my personal life I trust and respect regardless of what political affiliation they hold.

Not all republicans are uneducated racist nazis, I know thats hard to believe, but its true. :D

I point out to my R friends that not all dems are godless communists out to destroy America.

Somewhere we have to come together so we can avoid simply swinging back and forth from one extreme to another. Each swing will simply undo what the previous accomplished and the mindless attacks will simply gridlock the few things our government could do right, and my feeling is that pretty much whatever the goverment sets out to do it pretty well ruins, lol.

As for politicians, fair game by any means though. Just remember they are not the same as the fellow who may live down the street with a Mc/Pal bumper sticker.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:47 AM
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11. I'll follow Obama's lead - alot of repubs voted for him and he will be their president as well
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:52 AM
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13. Always with the cheerful posts!!
Gloom! Despair!


Obama will find a number of GOP members pliable and reasonable. Why? They have to face voters in two years.

He will wisely pursue bills that can muster 65% support or more in both houses of congress.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:01 AM
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18. Unfortunately, you are entitled to your opinion.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:08 AM
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20. Gloom! Despair! Agony on me!!
It was funny on Hee Haw.
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DemoRabbit Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:55 AM
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14. If the Repubs stonewall everything Obama tries to do it will be BAD FOR THEM
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:55 AM by DemoRabbit
Don't kid yourself... PRESIDENT Elect Obama is no fool. If the repubs decide they won't play nice everyone will know and it will only be worse for the republicans next time around.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:00 AM
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16. make the filibuster rule that the person filing the filibuster must be identified and
has to actually keep talking?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:04 AM
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19. whatever..
if nothing changes, nothing changes. Let's keep fighting those old battles. It's so much fun.
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