Pics Pics Pics from today's march

[DUyellow]

here you go guys, good stuff wish more of you were there!

Full set here: http://picasaweb.google.com/landonb/AntiWarMarch03172007/

[Maat]

1. What city? I was in San Diego, Ca.

Just returned, and I'm tired! My ten-year-old was with me, and she did very well.

[DUyellow]

2. This was in DC

[Synnical]

3. Thanks!

Was there in spirit!

[EFerrari]

4. Thank you!

K&R

[northofdenali]

5. I couldn't join any of the protests today -

there was a memorial service and other "must do" things for my father-in-law - so I thank you and all those who were there in my name from the bottom of my heart. :hug::hug:

On edit: Proud to be the 5th recommendation! Off to the Greatest Page with you!

[Warren Stupidity]

6. Oh my FSM! Code Pink Was There!

How Dare They!

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. LOL

:rofl:

CALL THE COPS!!

[The Doctor.]

47. Why would you suggest that Code Pink might not belong at a protest?

That's exactly where they belong.

They draw attention to themselves and the fact that there are people with a real stake in this who want our troops home.

Of course they belong there.

[INDIA]

7. Ugh. There should be a dress code at these things.

Who do these kids think they are helping by covering their faces in bandannas? To the average person they look like criminals, or even worse, terrorists.

Do you think if Dr. King were alive today he would wear a bandanna over his face and wave an Anarchy banner? If you want to get the fence sitters on board with the anti-war movement, you probably should dress in a more appropriate manner. These things are almost like job interviews. You want Joe American to be impressed with you and be open to your ideas. The bandanna thing just really pisses me off, sorry.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. Yes of course a dress code.

And we need sign police too. Plus if you look too much like some hippy from the 60's: out you go.

We need orderly regulated protests.

"These things are almost like job interviews." Indeed. Just like a job interview. Absolutely.


Which planet did you say you were from?

[INDIA]

13. So what is the purpose of a protest?

Especially one that is going to be broadcasted into the homes of millions of Americans? It's to garner support and raise attention for your cause among the populace at large. It's to make the politicos wake up, take notice of your cause, and take you seriously.

Now how effective is that message going to be conveyed by a bunch of kids dressed like bank robbers out of the Wild West? It will turn people off. First impressions and appearances are VERY important, especially with today's image driven media. People in wacky costumes, on stilts, waving Palestinian/Communist flags make the anti-war movement look like a joke. Who does that help? (His name rhymes with stove.....)

[IChing]

18. Maybe they bundled themselves so no one could see their profile

LIKE YOU.

[INDIA]

20. You can't see my profile?

I thought I had one. When I click on my name I can see it. How do I turn it on?

On edit: Yeah you're right, it's disabled. I got a new computer though, that might be the problem.

[piesRsquare]

21. I agree with you...

...with regards to the flags, but I honestly think that the bandana-on-the-face deal has to do with the weather.

I'm in California, but I read that it was *really* cold today in D.C. When I look at that photo, I see a bunch of kids freezing their butts off (and who don't want chapped faces and lips), not hooligans.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I see...

[INDIA]

29. I've seen the bandannas plenty of times before in pictures of protests.

during warm weather. And you're telling me the cute, little old ladies in the pictures today didn't need their faces covered but the younger anarchy crowd did? It has nothing to do with warmth and everything to do with a bunch of immature kids trying to look badass. (And in the process, alienating the anti-war movement from the average american.)

[Odin2005]

37. I totally agree.

The image that the anti-war movement is dominated by Anarchists is NOT the one we want to send to the average Joe, it just fuels right-wing propaganda. Every time I see a bunch of anarchists, Maoists, or related crazies I gag.

[RagingInMiami]

49. Perhaps we should have them all shave their heads and wear arm bands

[Lex]

9. "These things are almost like job interviews."

Like during the Vietnam war?

[INDIA]

16. I'm FAR too young to remeber the Vietnam protests...

But I see a distinct difference between growing your hair/beard long and dressing like a criminal or insurgent.

[Lex]

22. Well, I am too, but it is incumbent to read about the time and educate yourself.

Back then growing your hair long and your beard long WAS considered looking anti-social and sometimes even like a criminal.

[INDIA]

28. And do you feel that may have alienated...

many potential supporters of the movement? Maybe the war could have been ended more quickly without middle class Ma and Pa Kettle thinking the anti war movement was a bunch of nogoodniks? And even so, I still see distinction between dressing "hippie" and wearing a bandanna on one's face, an action that most directly associate with criminals and insurgents/terrorists.

And I love it when people tell me to educate myself. At age 23, I'll happily put my educational/work background up against just about anyone on this site.

[IChing]

31. I don't see your pictures of the protest you went to today.

You are 23, what is your excuse?



Criminals, insurgents and terrorist remark was so O'really?
it is sicking.

[INDIA]

32. What's my excuse?

1st year of Law School. I'm pretty busy, which is why I'm sitting in front of my computer right now instead of drinking my face off for St. Patty's like most 23 year olds. Is that good enough for you? And whenever an event IS nearby (Like the big Kerry rally I went to before the 2004 elections), I try to go. Not to mention I spent a summer interning in DC, and I went to quite a few interesting speeches/presentations and even a hearing on the Iraq war.

And I'm trying to be civil in my discussion, but the whole " I don't see your pictures of the protest you went to today" comment is borderline asshole.

Like it or not, most people associate a bandanna covered face with bank robbers or terrorists. Two groups the anti war movement probably doesn't want to associate themselves with.

Seriously, I'm espousing an opinion that any good political strategist or PR firm would give, and I'm getting flamed for it. Whenever you run for political office or try to start a movement, make sure to wear a bandanna covering your face and wave your red banner. Tell me how it works out for you.

[DUyellow]

34. "Seriously, I'm espousing an opinion that...

"Seriously, I'm espousing an opinion that any good political strategist or PR firm would give, and I'm getting flamed for it."

And that is why we are still in this war.

[INDIA]

35. Not really, n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. I think it is foolish for you to sit at your computer and criticize

people who stood in the freezing weather today and worked to end the war while you sat at your computer and criticized them.

There are protests all over the country this weekend. It surely wouldn't take too much of your time to find one and give a few hours of your time. Otherwise, you really have no right to criticize the protesters' wardrobes.

[INDIA]

44. Absurd.

First of all I'm only criticizing the small number who chose to dress like bank robbers and make the rest of the protesters look bad.

Second,

You were never in the military. So you can't ever criticize the treatment of wounded vets at Walter Reed, or the Abu Ghraib scandal?

You were never a lawyer or prosecutor, what right to you have to criticize the Attorney General?

Besides your Senator and Congressman, you never voted for 99% of those in congress. What right do you have to criticize Congress on anything? You aren't in politics, and you aren't in their districts.

You never played professional football, what right do you have to criticize the Oakland Raiders after another abysmal season?

I'll criticize those who deserve it thank you. And if you took the time to read my posts, you would see that I am currently in Grad School, busy as hell, and have attended several rallies, presentations, even a hearing on Iraq in the past.

But you would have to read my posts to know that. HEY! You didn't read all my posts, what right do you have to criticize ME???

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. It is a big tent

Some of us are willing to remember this and embrace all those who join us in speaking out against the war. Dress codes only apply at conservative republican events.

[RagingInMiami]

50. I'm you're majoring in law

Then you should be well aware that there is no "dress code" in order to express your First Amendment rights. These protests are open to everybody and anybody, including senior citizens, children, blacks, whites, Hispanics, republicans, democrats, gays, straights and even youths with bandannas over their faces.

The real issue is the goddamn war and the excessive corruption because of Shrub Co. Not a bunch of youths who may look like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

And as far as the fence sitters go, if they're still sitting on the fence four years into this war, then they will probably remain sitting on the fence even if these youths remove their bandannas.

To me, that's the beauty of these protests. That they are not the work of some "political strategist or PR firm". These protestors are a bunch of pissed off Americans.

And considering how this administration has made it a habit to spy on its people, slander its opponents and imprison American citizens without charging them, can you really blame somebody for wanting to hide their face at these protests?

[Lilith Velkor]

52. Yeah, no shit

The real reason activists all wear keffiyehs now: you need to have something substantial to put over your face when they lob the gas.

[TheConstantGardener]

10. I don't like their clothing but I DEFEND UNTIL THE LAST THEIR RIGHT TO DO IT!

Freedom!

[CrazyOrangeCat]

12. Clothes look okay to me.

It was a cold day, for one thing. They're all bundled up.

[INDIA]

14. I'm taking issue with the bandannas covering the faces.

Dressing like that helps nobody but the Repukes.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

40. I see you're too young

You obviously never heard that the FBI kept files on suspicious individuals such as John Lennon, Timothy Leary, Dr. Martin Luther King, Revs. Phillip and Daniel Berrigan, Daniel Ellsberg, and any other person they considered anti-American during the Vietnam War, and all through the 70's?

Which was basically anybody who exercised their First Amendment rights and protested the Vietnam War.

And took pictures? Get the idea that it might be good to hide your identity from Agent Mike?

[Morgana LaFey]

19. You know what's funny?

I mean, I'm sitting here, my sides are splitting.

I can't tell -- for sure -- whether your post is a take off on all the complaints about Code Pink yesterday, or if you're serious.

I'm dearly afraid, however, that you're serious. Which would be quite a shame, tho a funny one.

[INDIA]

23. Very serious.

Glad you found it so funny though. Yes, the threads yesterday about Midge got me thinking on the subject, and the Anarchy/Bandana wearing segment of the anti-war movement always bothered me, so I posted my opinion. I hope that's okay with you.

[Morgana LaFey]

27. Hey, whatever floats your boat

:rofl:

[INDIA]

30. Thank you for your well thought out and intelligent...

addition to this thread. It was enlightening. Have a nice life.

[DUyellow]

25. i believe they were covering there faces...

with the bandannas because the cops were talking about using pepper spray.

[Mojorabbit]

26. Of course, everyone knows

only the police are allowed to cover their faces. The rest of us peons need to have a clear view for the cameras so we can be put in the database.

[Lilith Velkor]

33. 70% already oppose the war

If you want to try to tell anarchists they can't march, um, good luck with that. They aren't trying to impress Joe American so they can sell him a nice prepackaged antiwar movement that will give him a good feeling when he watches it on TV.

They are marching on the Pentagon. You know - the ones who murdered Dr. King.

[Odin2005]

38. Uh, Dr. King was assasinated by a racist wacko, not the DoD.

Spare me the stupid conspiracy theories.

[Lilith Velkor]

39. No.

This is a public message board, stop chasing them around if you don't want to read them.

Do you have an opinion on the lovely protest pics or did you just need to scratch that itch?

[MaggieSwanson]

46. Have you ever been around tear gas?

When the cops have the pepper spray and tear gas out and ready to use, it is essential to cover your nose and mouth. Goggles are also sometimes worn. The bandannas only go up when they start pointing the hoses.

[TankLV]

51. maybe because it was fucking COLD out there today!

fucking fashion police sitting at home at their computer criticizing those that had the guts to brave the cold and actually DO SOMETHING!

fucking fashion police...

[jazzjunkysue]

11. Many thanks to all those who went. You're patriots! n/t.

[jtrockville]

15. The man in the red & black checkered jacket was arrested - I have video

At the end of the march, their group got a little rowdy and knocked over a barrel. I saw this but didn't film it. The police began chasing them and tackled that man. The group surrounded the police and they called for backup. I think every single policeman in the district showed up. They arrested two people and had around 2 dozen paddy wagons. It was rather sour note.

[riderinthestorm]

17. The police photos are scary. The protester pics show so many beautiful people!

Every time I see a group of protesters they are all so beautiful to me. Does our anti-war passion somehow infuse our beings with lightness and grace?

Thanks for going. :patriot: I'm going to a vigil Sunday, Monday and the march in Chicago on Tuesday. I'm sure it's going to be a cold few days but good thing I have under-armor and some excellent boots, coat, hat and gloves. I am ready!

[piesRsquare]

24. LOL

"Under-armor"! :rofl:

[Blue_In_AK]

36. Were there as many people as in January?

I couldn't make it down this time, but rallied here in Anchorage.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x438853

[Violet_Crumble]

43. This thread is a refreshing change from the Whine About Answer thread...

Thanks for posting the pics. I'd just seen footage of the Washington demonstration on telly and came to DU to find out how the protests had gone :)

[countryjake]

53. Boy, you said it!

I've been digging and digging, looking for some sign that the People actually marched this weekend!

Still looking...

[MaggieSwanson]

48. Great pics- you and I must have been close by each other

Thanks for your documentation!

:patriot:

-Maggie