Perle and Delay Need To Be Arrested Not treated as honored Talk Show Guests

[Blackhatjack]

Sestak just laid out the facts that Perle and Delay ignore.

But then again, Perle and Delay live in an alternate reality.

[Terri S]

1. Amen to that!! nt

[Blackhatjack]

2. Yeah, Delay knows more than a retired Admiral of the Navy about Military strategy...

... Sestak is exactly the experts Bush said he would listen to.

[nealmhughes]

3. Did you notice Bugman's roll his eyes at the Admiral once?

By now everyone knows that the Messopotamia is merely a proxy war between the Arabian Penisular Monarchies and Iran.
Had the Israel Fetish currently consuming DC been brought under control, the Realpolitik alliance of the West and Iran against the Hardcore Wahhabi extremists, aka, Taliban and al Qaeda, could have been brought under control in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Instead, we entered Iraq -- the dumbest move ever, more stupid than Napoleon getting to Moscow in late fall of 1812 -- and now we have an Iranian suported majority in the country's government and armed forces and militias. The Sunni minority are then the pawns of the Arabians to tit their tat and Afghanistan loses village by village to the Taliban (again).
Had it not been for oil, DC would merely have wrung their hands over the Kuwait invasion and tssk, tssked all the way to the UN the same as they did in the Rwanda and Burundi bloodbaths. Were it not revanche, pure and simple, thirty years cold against the Iranian Revolution, the US would be playing footsie with the Iranians.
"Stable Mideast" means an expansive Israel with carte blanche approval from the US to do whatever, whenever they wish. "Stable Mideast" means a fragmented series of client states that pump oil and eat hummus and play with worry beads all day, leaving the Israelis and Europeans and the US to deal with their woes, since they are "merely" Arabs and Persians -- just Orientals.
One cannot "jumpstart" or provide "shock treatment" to hundreds of millions of people and attempt to stop the natural evolution of cultures into a foreign model by dumping money and bullets and cluster bombs on people, throwing out some rhetoric and finding a puppet or two who tells us what we want to hear and then continues their own tribal alliances/sectarian power plays.
The Iranians are stuck in a horrible position -- pride (the most stupid position a realistic people can take) refuses for them to recant their state sponsorship of terrorism to Greater Syria and a religion hijacked by an institutional inferiority complex only compounds their positions. They are surrounded, on paper, anyhow, by the West and Western Allies.
Iraq was a powder keg merely awaiting the strongman to keel over, and his removal was the spark that set off the fuse that is waiting to ingnite the whole keg, thanks to the Shia money (Iran) and the Sunni money (Arabia). Meanwhile, the Christians have fled to either Mosul, Syria or the West in Iraq. The neighborhoods are being "swapped" to make them sectarian pure. The Taliban are back with their burqas and switches in southern Afghanistan.
What have we gained? Nothing but outrageous spending, death and an Iraq and Afghanistan in ruin and sabre rattling against Iran . . .
To summarize: colonialism and proxy wars are bad. Leaving people alone, trading with them and establish cultural outreach, good.

[Blackhatjack]

4. Do you expect a former pest exterminator and corrupt politician to know history?

One fact no one can spin -- Sunnis are the majority in the Middle East, and nothing the Shia in Iraq can do will change that. That is why a civil war was inevitable, and will continue without a clear winner whether we are there or not.

Delay knows squat about military strategy and history. My money is on the retired Navy Admiral with 30 years of service.

[kath]

5. Couldn't agree more.