Waxman hearing on political interference on climate change starting NOW

[Greeby]

webcast here - http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1214

Phil Cooney is gonna get grilled :popcorn:

[Greeby]

1. Waxman's laying it out

He's not gonna go soft on this oil shill :bounce:

[whistle]

2. Wow, Waxman and his staff are very busy people

....I am impressed :applause:

[NNN0LHI]

9. I bet the Republicans are very impressed too

:bounce:

[Greeby]

3. Issa speaking, Bleurgh

:puke:

Don't seem to be many members on seats

[bananas]

4. Thanks - it's on c-span too. and I cross-posted in E/E

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x88102

[Greeby]

5. It's "politicize" you dumb Repuke, not "politicalize"

:eyes:


Yarmuth speaking briefly

[sutz12]

6. Is this the one Al Gore is supposed to testify at? nt

[Greeby]

8. No, that's Wednesday on a joint committee

This is about the White House editing and doctoring reports to play down climate change. This is actually the second hearing Waxman has held

[Hepburn]

7. An Aside: What an improvement on being able to watch these hearings.

The Real Player live feeds are for the birds. This is so clear and crisp and good sound ... and on Windows Media Player which does NOT time out for me!


Edit for typo

[Webster Green]

10. Oh goody!

It might be hard to get away fom my TeeVee again today.:popcorn: :patriot:

[Greeby]

11. Witnesses being sworn in

Now is Cooney gonna spill his guts or lie his ass off, hmmm

[Greeby]

12. "My work was guided by the President's strategy"

Boy, ain't that the truth? :eyes:

[Gold Metal Flake]

13. Will this be the start of an *Official* thread series on this?

Blind & deaf cube rat, forbidden to stream, seeks the kindness of fast typing DUers.

[Greeby]

14. The basic thrust of his statement is

"I just followed my orders when I edited those reports"

OK, who gave those orders

[bananas]

15. James Hansen on now. nt

[Greeby]

16. Dr James Hansen testifying nt

[Greeby]

17. Raises three points

1.When I testify to Congress, why does my testimony have to be edited by a beaurocrat in the White House?

2.Why are public affairs offices staffed by political appointees? "They should not be forcing scientists to parrot propaganda"

3.Talking about the admin. using the budget as a means of intimidation

[Greeby]

18. George Deustch testifying

former Public Affairs Officer at NASA

[Zenlitened]

21. He's the flunky who didn't even have a college degree....

... yet was telling career scientists what the science was.

I think Rep. Waxman is about to clobber him.

[Marie26]

19. He's been busy!

Thank you, Henry Waxman, for finally exposing this Admin.'s dark deeds to the light of day.

[Greeby]

20. Waxman starting his questioning nt

[bananas]

22. He's tearing Cooney apart. nt

[Greeby]

23. Waxman bringing up all the memos and documents

About how Cooney fits in to the oil industry's campaign to put doubt on global warming

[bananas]

24. Issa no longer has animosity to car thieves. nt

[Greeby]

25. Welch taking apart Cooney over Shrub energy policy

:bounce:

[NNN0LHI]

26. Cooney's lips are moving but nothing is coming out n/t

[Webster Green]

27. Cooney beginning to melt down..

These assholes don't like being under oath, do they? :popcorn:

[Seedersandleechers]

28. Welch is drilling Cooney a new asshole...

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

29. Cooney is absolutely screwn, AND HE KNOWS IT.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He looks like he wants to bolt for the door in the worst way. I fully expect to see him upchucking onto the desk in a few moments...

[bmcatt]

30. I *almost* feel sorry for the poor bastard...

He was being flayed alive by Rep. Welch and just couldn't answer.

[doublethink]

31. This Philip Cooney ....

Philip Cooney,

Bush administration official and former oil-industry lobbyist, resigned his post as chief of staff of the Council of Environmental Quality in June, (2005) two days after the New York Times reported that he had tampered with government documents on climate and global warming. The changes he made questioned the link between greenhouse gas emissions and the rise in temperatures. After resigning, he accepted a job with ExxonMobil.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0931631.html

nice.

[tsuki]

32. Issa is an ass, again.

[IChing]

33. He is starting to get hot under the collar

They are getting to them.

[DemReadingDU]

34. Who is this Souder, from Indiana?

He says this panel is a mockery, cited McCarthyism on the 1st witness, Cooney.


edit to add: Souder is Republican from 3rd District (Ft.Wayne)

[Webster Green]

44. This guy?

[DemReadingDU]

35. Waxman saying the panel has 2 Republicans

Cooney & Deutch. They are both non-scientists, trying to change the scientific documents of esteemed Dr. Hansen.

wow, fireworks!

[IChing]

36. George Deutsch religious nut spokesman for nasa

what a nut.

[Stinky The Clown]

37. Actually, a resume concocting, lying, religious nut

.... not to put toooooooo fine a point on it. :)

[IChing]

40. What a nut, get religion out of science

Shays /republican used the word inconvenient truth
and is laying into this guy. Good guy so far.

[doublethink]

41. Why isn't that kid over fighting in Iraq?

Somebody get a recruiter in that room immediately. Peace.

[Greeby]

38. Shays: "Too many inconvenient truths in this room"

Hyuk hyuk hyuk! :eyes:

[Stinky The Clown]

39. Note to Chris Shays .........

.... change parties or give up your seat.

Your embrace of Al Gore and using the title of his movie to underscore your 'position' is quite amazing .... you pandering jerk.

[IChing]

42. Starting to heat up

Hansen is refuting the white house bullshit.

[IChing]

43. Hollen is sharp and I can't wait he nailed people in the last hearing on Plame

Wait for it. He is good.
He is gonna nail Deutsch

[DemReadingDU]

45. Woot, another email trail!

documenting the political sidestepping of Hansen from going on NPR

[IChing]

47. Dr. Hanson said that they acted like Nazis

on who and who he could not talk to.

[helderheid]

46. THANK YOU!!!!

[DemReadingDU]

48. Another Excellent Waxman Hearing!

Hopefully, it will be replayed later on C-Span for everyone to watch

[MoonRiver]

49. Darrell Issa (R-POS)

Says it's NOT OK to speak the truth if one is on the taxpayer's payroll.
:puke:

[Hamlette]

54. he couldn't be more wrong

I was wondering why Hanson didn't have a better answer. People who work for the US government work for the PEOPLE (we're the soverigns) and we are required to do what is right FOR THE PEOPLE not for the president. (maybe only government lawyers get into these ethical questions and not scientists.)

[MoonRiver]

56. ABSOLUTELY! We The People expect and demand the truth.

Hanson basically said that, but he wasn't terribly succint. I believe he was caught by surprise with that outrageous statement from Issa.

[DemReadingDU]

50. more fireworks!

Waxman & Issa having words

[Webster Green]

51. Wow! Waxman just called Issa out for smearing Hanson

this is getting good!

[helderheid]

52. WAXMAN!

:loveya:

[DemReadingDU]

55. C-Span schedule

Check back to see if this hearing will be replayed later

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212041023577

[NewJeffCT]

69. how did he do that?

crumbs for the cube rats.

thanks

[Webster Green]

89. Issa was challenging Hanson's credibility as a witness...

..because Hanson supported Kerry in 2004. Issa asked Hanson if he was a democrat, (as if that should matter). Waxman interrupted Issa and told him he was out of order, and that he was trying to smear Hanson. Quite a testy little exchange! :popcorn:

[WatchWhatISay]

53. Question: Will any of this information make it out of C-Span?

Not likely, and todays excuse is the 4 year anniversary of the war in Iraq.

[Horse with no Name]

57. Did you ever have a conversation with Andrew Card? Karl Rove?

A good lawyer wouldn't ask those questions without knowing the answer.
Nor would he ask them twice.

[Greeby]

58. Waxman asking Cooney about conversation with someone from the OVP

:popcorn:

[helderheid]

59. Oh CANNON STFU

[helderheid]

60. This witness is SO calm - not allowing himself to become rattled

[Gold Metal Flake]

61. Thanks everyone for the liveblgging!

:toast: :loveya: :hug: :yourock: :patriot: :toast:

[Cameron27]

62. k&r

[helderheid]

63. Shays is making me nuts.

[Eurobabe]

65. New witness, James Connaughton

White House Council on Environmental Quality (Chairman) opening statement

[Webster Green]

66. What an idiot...he wanted more time to make his pointless point..

Waxman told him to fuck off. (but not in those words):popcorn:

[Eurobabe]

64. I found you all, I knew someone was watching this

[Hepburn]

67. LOL...

Mr. James Connaughton, Chairman, White House Council on Environmental Quality ~~ looks like a double for KKKarl Rove!

[Cameron27]

68. Smug little pig

[Hepburn]

70. Has an "attack" 'tude right off the bat, n/t

[Cameron27]

71. Waxman's having none of his "limiting" lol

[soulcore]

72. and immediately invoked executive priviledge. Geez.

What an ass.

[Hepburn]

75. Whoa...

...Waxman is having NONE of that. Tells him he wants all the docs with communication with the OVP...and the little azz tells Waxman that this is an issue for the lawyers. Well, wondering what the WH is coving up THIS time?

[whistle]

77. What???? Bush says thing are heating up, I know it, lets move on

[IChing]

73. This guy is so dirty.......

James L. Connaughton is chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, serving as a senior environmental advisor to the George W. Bush. He previously worked as a lobbyist for power industry and large electricity users, including the asbestos industry. His office pressured the Environmental Protection Agency to dramatically weaken the wording of its public statements about the air quality in New York City in the days after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center.<1>

"A former lobbyist for utilities, mining, chemical, and other industrial polluters, Connaughton, represented the likes of General Electric and ARCO in their effort to escape responsibility for cleaning up toxic Superfund sites. Now he heads up pollution-policy development for the administration and coordinates its implementation. He has led the charge to weaken the standards of getting arsenic out of our drinking water, and he has steadily advised Bush to ignore, divert, stall, dismiss, and otherwise block out all calls for action against the industrial causes of global warming," Jim Hightower wrote in Utne.com.<2>

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=James_L._Connaughton

[Greeby]

74. OMG, Issa comparing Dr Hansen's grievances with this:

[Eurobabe]

76. Why do all these assholes LOOK LIKE KKKARL ROVE??

Look at this guy Connaughton. Look at Kyle Sampson.

Is fucking Rove cloning himself??

[whistle]

78. Meatballs attract meatballs

[helderheid]

79. THAT'S IT!!!

Who said they didn't believe in science?

[IChing]

80. or this guy?

[Eurobabe]

82. who'dat?

[IChing]

84. The nazi in Raiders of the lost Ark n/t

[Eurobabe]

81. Yarmuth D-KY

Asking JC: Did you make the determination that no further changes can be made (on the document/report?)

JC: Small number of edits on a 600 pg documents. (WTF?)

Yarmuth: EPA found the report to be so inaccurate, if they released it, it would cause confusion in the public. (blathering about process of editing and changes)

[Hepburn]

83. BS on reconciling comments viz confusing the public.

What the heck is the problem with putting it ALL out there for the public to see? Why SHOULD there be an "official" govt position?

[Eurobabe]

85. Cannon R-Utah

Having a hard time understanding the purpose of these hearings.

What a bozo!

[Eurobabe]

86. mentioning Nazis 2X, wtf?

asking why the committee was so harsh on one of the earlier issues (a young guy)

Cannon bloviating: "Big oil, ANWR has made the US a better place, cheap energy."

[muriel_volestrangler]

87. For those unable to listen

Here's an article about what Hansen was due to say:

Jim Hansen at Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Science (GISS) in New York will say: "The executive branch seems to be exercising greater control in the functioning of our government, in ways that our forefathers probably did not imagine and almost certainly would not approve. This includes White House control of testimony to Congress, White House control of information that scientists provide to the public ... and most decidedly through control of the purse strings."
...
Dr Hansen will criticise the White House for successive cuts to Nasa's earth science research and analysis budget to what he calls "almost a going-out-of-business" level. He claims that this has meant that most planned launches of satellites that would collect valuable climate data have been cancelled or postponed, and that support for contractors, young scientists and students has disappeared. This will have "dire implications for future capabilities", he will argue.
...
Dr Hansen will characterise the White House strategy in the following way: "One way to avoid bad news: stop the measurements! Only hitch: the first line of the Nasa mission is 'to understand and protect our home planet'. Maybe that can be changed to 'protect special interests' backside'."
...
"The most troubling impact of the political interference with climate change science is the potential burden that we leave for our children and grandchildren," Dr Hansen will argue. He believes that people forced to leave their land by rising sea levels will know whom to blame. "If we continue on this course, failing to effectively address climate change, we will leave a heavy moral burden, and perhaps a legal burden, for our children."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2037619,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704

[whistle]

88. We need continuous input from thousands of scientists and do nothing

:wtf:

[IChing]

90. Blamed Clinton.....for not taking action

[IChing]

91. Now comparing Gore's house and Bush's house

[helderheid]

93. I had to turn it off

[Cameron27]

92. Shays would love to compare Gore's house

with Bush's.

[Beelzebud]

94. The republicans are making a joke of this hearing...

[whistle]

95. Waxman is back and now holding KKK Rove look-al-ike's feet to fire

....guy is a liar

[IChing]

96. Waxman now grilling him

and asking about communications and this guy says I can't remember, I don't recall etc. and he is getting testy.





check my link in my post on this guy ......"this guy is so dirty."

[whistle]

97. Is Waxman the only democratic congressman attending today

[IChing]

98. I have only seen 3 for each side

I am not seeing the panel to see if any have left.

Welch from Vermont is speaking a democrat who has been a little silent so far

Talking about the Amer. Petrol. Instit. and their imput

[whistle]

99. I see only two others beside Waxman and those two guys are

...repukes...going off the air now...Gore be on Wed

[Webster Green]

100. Damn!....C-Span is leaving this hearing to cover the full House..

I guess there is no way to watch this live. I tried the C-span3 stream, but they are covering something else as well.

[Hepburn]

101. Try this link....still on here:

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1214

[Webster Green]

102. Thank you very much!

The full House session was pretty boring.

[Hepburn]

103. You're welcome.

This is a good set up....not the usual Real Player that times out. Have not had this problem one time and just one or two "hang ups" with the transmission. Clear pic and audio on this feed.

[Hepburn]

104. Dr. Roy Spencer, University of Alabama in Huntsville ~~ last panel

What a tool.

[Webster Green]

105. OK...Let me guess.....this guy is a witness for the repukes..

Pretty obviously a paid shill for the fascists.

[Hepburn]

106. Yep! Totally. n/t

[helderheid]

107. this guy is a hack

[Hepburn]

109. And a WACK, too!

What a crock!

[Webster Green]

110. Waxman just made him look like a fool..

Got him to admit he was out of the mainstream on global warming, and then got him to say he favored intelligent design over evolution.

Bye bye to any credibility the dumbass might have had.

Waxman is a bulldog!:popcorn:

[Hepburn]

108. OMG......Waxman got him!

He is an ID believer! LMBO!!!

[Webster Green]

111. Hearing just concluded for the day..

Okay, I gotta go get some work done.

That was great! Waxman rocks!

[DemReadingDU]

112. still looking for a replay later on cspan

I had to leave for a meeting, and need to watch the last half. Thanks for the thread highlights!

[DemReadingDU]

113. Here is C-Span schedule

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=212041064398

edit: starting now!