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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:48 AM
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Frosty E. Hardison, a self-described "independent-thinking Republican,"

Gore Film Garners Praise and Backlash
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2824074&page=1

Earlier this month, Frosty E. Hardison, a self-described "independent-thinking Republican," was chagrined to hear that his 13-year-old daughter Britney's science teacher was planning on showing the Gore film.

Hardison, a 43-year-old data analyst with a software manufacturer, is an evangelical Christian. Hardison, his wife, Gayla, and seven children — the oldest is 20, the youngest was born Jan. 3 — attend the Grace Church and Casey Treat's Christian Faith Center, and Hardison says he "adamantly" supports creationism. "Evolution theory still cannot be proved. It is a theory," he says.



His problem with "An Inconvenient Truth," Hardison says, is that it's "very, very focused on what a group of what — OK, fine — a majority of scientists say who talk about climatology. But it doesn't say anything about other sciences — astrophycis, geology or any of the other highly potential causes of what our planet is going through."

"The board placed a moratorium on the showing of the film until the superintendent could ascertain that all policies had been followed and determine where else the film had been shown," Diane A. Turner, a spokeswoman for Federal Way Public Schools, tells ABC News.

He says this will likely include a visit to the school from Kay Jones, a former science adviser to President Nixon, who believes that the research data on climate change does not show that human use of hydrocarbons is harmful, and that there is even evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is good for the environment. Jones lives nearby, Hardison says, and "volunteered to provide his research as well. He has a lot of information that the global warming thing we're going through right now is cyclical and something the earth naturally goes through."

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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:52 AM
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1. Ah, yes, "other" scientists
"His problem with "An Inconvenient Truth," Hardison says, is that it's "very, very focused on what a group of what — OK, fine — a majority of scientists say who talk about climatology. But it doesn't say anything about other sciences — astrophycis, geology or any of the other highly potential causes of what our planet is going through."

I'd LOVE to have a chat with this guy about astrophysics or quantum mechanics - I'd bet it would be the shortest conversation I've ever had.

mikey_the_rat
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:01 AM
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5. Or
Yo Frosty, if Valerie Plame was an insignificant desk jockey why was it so important that your president expose her identity? That always ends conversations I have with "independent thinking republicans." Or, Frosty if the world is flat why haven't you fallen off? Or, Frosty have you discovered how babies are made?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:17 AM
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7. He raises a valid point. I, too, wished the film had focused on
what astrologers, especially those in Washington and Hollywood, were thinking.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:52 AM
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2. Independent thinking republican = battery operated robot
Yeah bring old Jonesy in; he has all the fakts that we'll ever need bout this glo-ball warming stuff. Were merkuns, there ain't no way we could harm this dear plan-it. And there ain't no way my youngins is gonna get no damned librul edumucation. I'm stoopid and looke at my suck-sess. Ever thing they need to no i got tucked in my haid. by gawd.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:55 AM
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3. Isn't that an oxymoron - independent-thinking Republican? n/t
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:01 AM
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4. Well I hope during his daughter's health class ...
they have someone from the tobacco industry to explain how smoking doesn't cause lung cancer. Have to cover both sides of the issue here.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:11 AM
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6. see I was going to take the low road
I was going to make a joke about there being a brass pole in Britneys near future but I glad that I refrained from making such a comment
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:40 AM
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9. BWAH-HAHHAHAHA!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:24 AM
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11. I'm sure Mr. Hardison appreciates your restraint
My take on little Britney's future is popping out seven or eight kids by age 33 and a life of endless drudgery as she tries to figure out why God wanted her to be so miserable with all that "be fruitful and multiply" and "obey your husband" jazz. Didn't God know her husband was going to be such a jerk?
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:32 AM
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8. I'm getting sick of, "It's just a theory," meme
For all intents and purposes in science, theory means fact. Scientists have observed the world to the best of their abilities, submitted their discoveries through a rigorous approval process including other scientists being able to duplicate their findings and have mountains of evidence to back up what they're saying. If, in the future, our methods of observing the world are better, and the scientists discover something further, the theory can be amended, added on to, or slightly adjusted (such as how we got more precise with the speed of light in a vaccuum as our methods of measuring it improved). It is very rare that future observations will show that the original theory is 100% wrong.

So when this idiot says evolution theory can't be proved, he is talking from a point of ignorance about science-speak. If a theory can't be proved, it wouldn't be a theory. It would be a hypothesis. Unfortunately, in the non-scientific world, people all the time say, "I have a theory," which they think means they have a guess, and the religious nutcases exploit that - knowingly or unknowingly.

TlalocW
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 11:17 AM
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10. You and the rest of us are preaching to the choir, TlalcoW.
It's scary,though, how much power these superstitious nuts have in this society.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 12:53 PM
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12. This sounds like a PC story on talk radio
ONE busybody raises a fuss and now nobody can _________ (love Jesus, play dodgeball, be a patriot) anymore. Well boohoohoo.
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