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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:39 AM Original message |
Major insurers will support universal health insurance -- if mandated |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Dear Major Insurers: |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You're being too kind. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. That is really offensive |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You think He was saying "Bless you" when he whipped the |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. There are many ways this point could have been made, without |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. i think the "Left Behind" series and its portrayal of Jesus |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. The bitter tears of the offended sustain me. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I think it communicates... |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. If for profit capitalist pig insurance companies have earned anything... |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. I agree. Jesus wasn't blue-eyed, white, or blond. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. But you don't speak for all Christians any more than I do. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I guess I would hope that all of us would be able to gloss over it or laugh. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I wouldn't be offended by the poster's own photograph of himself doing that. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Funny, at our Christian college, we loved Jesus jokes. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Maybe it's the age difference? n/t |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Maybe, though our profs would get that glint in their eyes, too. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
59. Many Christians are really offensive to many of us, so what? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. The Christians on DU are your allies, but you're treating many of us like |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. If we are allies, why do you act as if your beliefs have a higher precedence than mine/others? |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Love the pic.! ;-) |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. And peace to you, too, buddy. |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Buddy? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Insurance is the PROBLEM..not any part of the solution..n/t |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Amen! nt |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Yeah pretty much whatever the Ins companies are against... I'm strongly FOR! n/t |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. if i could K&R this post and graphic |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. ROFL! |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. How can you force people who have no money to pay for insurance? |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. We are... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Who? Millions of people who voted for Hillary and Edwards, among others. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. Major insurers...major rip-off. nt |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. I have no problem with capitalism. I have a problem with parasitic industries. |
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old guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
7. There will never be single payer universal health care |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think we are going to end up being forced to have insurance to get a job.. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Hey, I've got a funny notion - |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. The Clinton/Edwards plans didn't require private insurance. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That bothered me at first. Then I realized it was brilliant... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. That's also what Hillary predicted. So in effect, this would be a large step |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Well, we HOPE it would be a large step. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. You realize, don't you, that Medicare bases its payment rates |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. That wouldn't have been the case under HRC's plan (I'm not as familiar |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Medicare would have to undergo a rehaul as it was recognized in the |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. Cut Out The Middle Man. Single Payer Only. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. That's what we would all prefer. (OK, most of us who are sensible... hehehe) |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. F*ck them. I want Single Payer Universal Health Care. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. NO MORE corporate handouts! nt |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. Mandating coverage is the only way a universal health insurance plan would work. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Which is what Paul Krugman has said. People who think otherwise |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. People somehow think of insurance as something invented to help them |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I was also disappointed with their position on the pharma bill. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. It's gonna be a mess, I have friends who don't have health insurance and couldn't pay for it, if |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. That's true. That's why they support it. n/t |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Just like Mandatory car insurance that you never use but have to pay for. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. How do you know that it wouldn't be designed so that poor people |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Do you think the Insurance companies would make money that way. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. No, and neither did HRC. She acknowledged that the private insurers |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. Mandated insurance puts a burden on families who can't afford it and |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Exactly why Mandated insurance is wrong. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
41. I have a better idea: kick the insurance co's out and nationalize it. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I've been advocating that even before Hillary came up with her first plan |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. HRC thought of her plan as a steppingstone. I think the only real disagreement |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. The problem is once the law is written it's very hard to change. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Let the insurance stay |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. I like how you think. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. It makes sense form an actuarial basis |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
58. This amply demonstrates why we must abolish the industry through |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
62. Of course they will, because they are redundant and useless |
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