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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:35 PM Original message |
I'll say it plain: If you're against the bailout of the auto industry, you're un-American! |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. How very republican of you. n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. A Republican wouldnt want to save the automakers |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. No, republicans don't want to save the Union Workers. That's what this is ALL about. |
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ipfilter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Hammer meet Nail. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
70. And that can be taken to the bank |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. given the destruction possible down the chain from them, I think it |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. I opposed the 'bailout' to financial institutions that bought & sold 'air' ... CDS! I'm all for |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I was against the Wall Street bailout(in its form), but as long as the govt. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Even Ford? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
76. Father worked for Chevy. 'Ford' was a bad word in our household. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. So called "progressives" hate American labor. It's as plain as that. nt |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Yep-some have a holier than thou attitude toward the working class. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
77. Pretty Discouraging, Isn't It? |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. I see. "you are either with us, or against us" |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's a LOAN. NOT a bail-out. They have to pay it back! |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. LMAO.. yeah right, and what if they don't? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Then we can re-possess their many square miles of property. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I think you need to take another look at that alleged property |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Hell, the states of Michigan, Indiana and Ohio won't be worth a dime. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Hell, I'd vote for that. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
100. They did it once before by paying a loan off SEVEN YEARS |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Please change your header to call it what it is, a Bridge Loan they don't want free money |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. LOL! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
7. I hope you were screaming that when other people's jobs were being |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. I have. Outsourcing, H1B, illegal immigrants all have driven wages down and taken jobs. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
64. rec this post !!! |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. What's your trip? You act like I just woke up to the fact that we're |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Won't they include the price of this bail-out in the cost of the cars |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
71. I have been. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. How can you be so sure this will save jobs? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
47. I said it is a "damned if you do, worse if you don't" type of a deal. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
95. We need the government to buy the businesses at distress prices ..... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'll say it plain: if you're in favor of throwing tens of billions of dollars |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. In the 1970's the British government kept bailing out their automobile industry. |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. That may be true and they may eventually fail but right now, with all the other calamity coming |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I agree with you. If they need the money, they should have a plan. n/t |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
48. You would rather watch millions of jobs go poof? |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Big surprise. Well, this isn't the first time over the past eight years I've been |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. Why so sensitive? Why do you even feel I'm talking to you? |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. How very Sarah Palin of you, |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. You're the Jackass here. Those jobs are what have kept this country afloat over the years. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Proud *rational* jackass, sure. I'll own that. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. People can't afford to buy cars right now-any cars. It's not about the buying public |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. What a load of garbage. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. Joe McCarthy calling collect from hell. I want my schtick back. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
50. You know where you can shove your schtick..... |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
85. The Soviet Union? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm not against the bailout. I'm not against anyone wanting to provide for their families. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. Name-calling is over-rated; research is under-rated |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bail them out -- but |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. If you said: Anyone against a VIABLE bailout of the auto industry... |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. As a HUMAN BEING, I am loathe to have millions lose their jobs. BUT |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. Anyone who can watch those assholes show up to their beggar's banquet in private jets... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
53. You don't get it. There are only two options here. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
74. There are three options here: 1) Don't loan the money and the companies go bankrupt, and |
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aldo (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
33. Amen, globalists are the screw America crowd |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
34. Use your own checkbook, k? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. a lot of very selfish, blind people here these days. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. If you're so Pro-America, why is your favorite band from England? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Damn, you got me there... |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. What's wrong with Chuck Berry? |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
38. They can reorganize themselves via bankruptcy rules, and get their acts together |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #38 |
68. Won't a bancruptcy re-org leave tens of thousands of pensioners pennyless? |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
40. I agree. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. Forget the bailout - try a buyout. $4 billion in stock, gov purchases it and gives to the employees |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
44. "Some people can sit around and point fingers..." |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
45. Why should we bailout the auto industry when they're going to turn that money around |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
51. "but it is unconscionable for me to think that anyone could stand by and watch |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. do you make a habit of quoting out of context? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. OK, if it makes you happy; |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. What? No reply? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. well said |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
99. Dude, you are twisted, and you, too, two Americas. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Nobody's dancing, we've been pointing out that you morans were cutting |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
56. Look at this. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
69. That's just sick |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
73. Thank you...I was going to post that if someone hadn't already done so. nt |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
58. Some against the bailout think they can reorg under bankruptcy |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
59. I'd fully support it if I knew the executives weren't going to see a fucking penny of it. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I completely agree with you, and it's one that we have to hold our nose on. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
96. No -- we can demand that this failed leadership be outted ... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
62. Rec'd |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. Where were you all when the furniture industry and the textile industries |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
65. What makes auto industry jobs more precious than other jobs in the USA? |
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bluecollarcharlie (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Ask the people who... |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. . |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
75. Regardless of where I stand on the loan... |
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akwapez (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. I don't agree with you so I must be unAmerican..... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. No nuance, no grey area. You're either for us or you're against us. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
81. I'm unAmerican, too, then. I was a steward, and I want to see the unions |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
83. Total bullshit. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
84. It's unamerican to suggest that people with different opinions |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
86. Then I'm unAmerican. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Save your "restructuring" crap for AIG, Mr. "free markets". nt |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
103. That's Ms. to you. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
88. It's NOT bail out or none ...read the posts.. electric cars and workers run it -- |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. What I'm reading are a lot of people's opinions, none of which enter into |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. See Msg #47 above --- |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
91. I agree but |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
92. I know |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
93. My reply to this simplistic OP: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Agree -- "Just say 'Yes'" simple __!!! Nice link/post, as well ... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Thanks nt |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
101. With Dems in charge, you damn betcha! |
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