Know what's weird? Toensing hasn't been on any news/talk shows

[CatWoman]

I saw her on H&C the night she testified before Congress, but other than that, nary a peep.

[annabanana]

1. She's in the basement with her lawyer, worrying over the upcoming

PERJURY charges!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. Yup.

[NightWatcher]

4. I love how they left her testimony open in case she needed to change her mind

that was the chair.'s way of saying that we know you're lying, but feel free to come to Jesus and take it back.

[SeattleGirl]

3. Maybe she's afraid, and she should be!

She lied herself into a legal corner on Friday.

[Bonhomme Richard]

5. I was on the road friday. What did she say? n/t

[Canuckistanian]

21. What else? That Plame was not "covert"

And why? Because she "helped draft the bill".

And, as usual in these things, she was factually incorrect.

She claimed that Plame was not "stationed" overseas in the 5 years prior to Novakula's column.
When the law clearly says "served overseas".

And that notwithstanding, the outing was in breach of Presidential Executive Order #12958, which forbids even negligent disclosure of a covert officer of the CIA.

[H2O Man]

6. That's their tactic ....

to have her tell a lie to the committee, and then have others repeat it. She is not going to go on to be confronted by those who have prepared to expose her for lying.

[Fovea]

9. Is this the best that the big buck legal mind can do for them?

I mean holy crap. I thought it was some kind of communications snafu that Toensing was misunderstanding her role or hadn't heard the earlier testimony or something.

If they think that they can simply stonewall with their refusal to recognize anything but the statute that they can twist.

Unless Plame-Wilson and the CIA director are both lying, Victoria just launched herself off into the land of 'Sure I just perjured myself. What's it to you?' It is an unhappy place.

[H2O Man]

10. Perhaps

she simply "misremembered" a conversation with Tim Russert that didn't take place.

There is an example of "perception management" that is appropriate here: when the administration spoon-fed shit to Judith Miller, had her put a lie on the front page of the Sunday NY Times, then had four people on the Sunday talk show saying, "Did you see this story in the Times?"

Likewise, while VT isn't appearing on shows since her lying to the committee, her lies allow other administration supporters to continue to pretend that there is an honest debate about Plame's status.

[Fovea]

12. While the echo chamber been very very good to them

They must be really desperate at this point.

What plays to the MSM will not play as well to Congress.

I mean talking to the paintings desperate.
Good.

[mmonk]

17. Yep, that's how it works.

Typical hit and run tactics and let the other liars carry the load (of crap) forward.

[NanceGreggs]

7. She's been sitting by the phone all day ...

... waiting for the WH to call and tell her she's the new Attorney General.

[jamesinca]

8. What did she say on Friday

I know she has been saying that Mrs. Plame was not undercover/covert, but what did she say Friday under oath. Does anybody have a link to the transcript?

Her whole argument is based on this from what I understand:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/50/chapters/15/subchapters/iv/toc.html

Section 426. Definitions

For the purposes of this subchapter:
(1) The term "classified information" means information or
material designated and clearly marked or clearly represented,
pursuant to the provisions of a statute or Executive order (or a
regulation or order issued pursuant to a statute or Executive
order), as requiring a specific degree of protection against
unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national security.
(2) The term "authorized", when used with respect to access to
classified information, means having authority, right, or
permission pursuant to the provisions of a statute, Executive
order, directive of the head of any department or agency engaged
in foreign intelligence or counterintelligence activities, order
of any United States court, or provisions of any Rule of the
House of Representatives or resolution of the Senate which
assigns responsibility within the respective House of Congress
for the oversight of intelligence activities.
(3) The term "disclose" means to communicate, provide, impart,
transmit, transfer, convey, publish, or otherwise make available.
(4) The term "covert agent" means -
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an
intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed
Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency -
(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member
is classified information, and
(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within
the last five years served outside the United States; or

(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship
to the United States is classified information, and -
(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an
agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance
to, an intelligence agency, or
(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an
agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or
foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation; or

(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose
past or present intelligence relationship to the United States
is classified information and who is a present or former agent
of, or a present or former informant or source of operational
assistance to, an intelligence agency.

(5) The term "intelligence agency" means the Central
Intelligence Agency, a foreign intelligence component of the
Department of Defense, or the foreign counterintelligence or
foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
(6) The term "informant" means any individual who furnishes
information to an intelligence agency in the course of a
confidential relationship protecting the identity of such
individual from public disclosure.
(7) The terms "officer" and "employee" have the meanings given
such terms by section 2104 and 2105, respectively, of title 5.
(8) The term "Armed Forces" means the Army, Navy, Air Force,
Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.
(9) The term "United States", when used in a geographic sense,
means all areas under the territorial sovereignty of the United
States and the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.
(10) The term "pattern of activities" requires a series of acts
with a common purpose or objective.

[CatWoman]

11. here you go

http://crooksandliars.com/index.php?s=victoria+toensing

she looked stoned to me.

[jamesinca]

16. Thanks NT

[devilgrrl]

22. She always looks stoned and that posing her face to one side...

like she suffers from paralysis... :crazy:

[MissB]

13. I happened to see her on the evening after her testimony.

I can't remember if it was a non-Faux show or not, although some times it is tough to tell.

[CatWoman]

14. as I mentioned above

she was on H&C that night.

[MissB]

15. That explains it.

It would've been really late at night. I have a tendency to flip through the channels rather than go to sleep after 10:30 or so. When I flip the channel to Faux, I get bored quickly and turn it off.

[WillyT]

18. Hey... She's Busy !

Give the girl a break, will ya???



:evilgrin:

[Canuckistanian]

19. Licking her wounds

And hoping the call display doesn't read "Waxman" when the phone rings.

[UTUSN]

20. Somebody LIED under oath, and it WEREN'T Valerie!!1 n/t

[Octafish]

23. Corporate McPravda must've noticed Toensig's as corrupt as Turd Blossom & Co.

Robert Parry sure as shootin' pegged em, too.

Plame-gate: Time to Fire WPost's Hiatt

The testimony of Valerie Plame destroyed some of the long-standing myths about her outing as a covert CIA officer that have been circulated for more than three years by George W. Bush’s apologists, including Washington Post editorial page editor Fred Hiatt.

By Robert Parry
Consortiumnews.com March 17, 2007

Indeed, Hiatt and his editorial page cohorts have made trashing Plame’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, and mocking the seriousness of Plame’s exposure almost a regular feature, recycling many long-discredited White House talking points, including an attempt to question whether Plame was in fact “covert.”

After the March 16 hearing before Rep. Henry Waxman’s House Oversight Committee, those pro-Bush falsehoods stand in even starker disrepute – as should the reputation of the Post’s editorial page, which has never quite reconciled itself to how thoroughly it fell for Bush’s Iraq War deceptions.

Based on testimony before Waxman’s committee, it also now is clear that while the Post was busy defending the Bush administration on the Plame affair, the White House was conducting a systematic cover-up of its role in the leak.

Though Bush declared in September 2003 that he was determined to get to the bottom of who blew Plame’s cover, it was revealed at the March 16 hearing that the White House never even undertook an administrative review to assess responsibility for the leak.

SNIP...

Quibbling Kook

At the hearing, Toensing was reduced to looking like a quibbling kook who missed the forest of damage – done to U.S. national security, to Plame and possibly to the lives of foreign agents – for the trees of how a definition in a law was phrased, and then getting that wrong, too.

After watching Toensing’s bizarre testimony, one might wonder why the Post would have granted her space on the widely read Outlook section’s front page to issue what she called “indictments” of Joe Wilson, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and others who had played a role in exposing the White House hand behind the Plame leak.

One might chalk it up to bending over backwards to give the Right a chance to get one more shot in at the Plame-Wilson family, perhaps some weird sense of “balance.” But Toensing’s attack lines also matched the Washington Post's editorial positions which have consistently hammered Wilson and made light of White House wrongdoing in the case.

On March 7, after Libby’s conviction on four felony counts, the Post’s lead editorial continued its long practice of manufacturing a false history of the case.

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/031707.html

Wish ABCNNBCBSFoolsNooseNutwork had listened to Mr. Parry back during Iran-Contra.

None of this would have ever happened.

[CatWoman]

27. Thanks, Octi

:hi:

I tried all day yesterday to connect on Consortium News.

This link went right through :)

[Mz Pip]

24. No round the clock Faux?

Wow. One would think she would be on every Faux talk show spewing their talking points.

Maybe she has been. Who the f*ck watches that shit anyway?

Mz Pip
:dem:

[spanone]

25. Who would want her? She's certainly not an asset for the thugs. She did more harm than good.

[NNN0LHI]

26. That is because CIA agent Valerie Plame made her look like a fool last week

Really that is why. When you compare the credibility of the two it is obvious Toensing is way out of her league. She crawled back under her rock.

Don

[libnnc]

28. Did you notice after the hearing was adjourned...

the Cspan camera stayed on her as she gathered her little legal pads and pencils and neat manila folders (she IS a lawyer, ya know!11!) She didn't look too perky at that moment. Kinda looked a little peeked to me. Like she'd been caught oh....

LYING UNDER OATH!!

I'd say she shaking in her little panties right about now.