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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 04:49 PM
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Disgraced pastor returns, as Christian businessman
Disgraced pastor returns, as Christian businessman



Earlier this month, a guest took the pulpit at Open Bible Fellowship in Morrison, Ill., a 350-member church surrounded by cornfields. The speaker was an insurance salesman from Colorado named Ted Haggard.

The former superstar pastor, disgraced two years ago in a sex-and-drugs scandal, had returned — this time as a Christian businessman preaching a message that was equal parts contrition and defiance. Haggard linked his fall to being molested in second grade and apologized again.

His two sermons were posted, fleetingly, on Haggard's Web site under one word: "Alive!"

While his exact plans remain unclear, Haggard is unmistakably making himself a public figure again, nine months after his former church said he walked away from an oversight process meant to restore him...http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081123/ap_on_re_us/rel_haggard_returns

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 04:50 PM
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1. I'm sure he's selling insurance... for... more....
METH!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 04:52 PM
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2. These guys are truly unbelievable...
Edited on Sun Nov-23-08 04:53 PM by hlthe2b
Sheesh...I'm thinking they took the "sucker born everyday" philosophy (wrongly attributed to PT Barnum) way to heart....
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 04:54 PM
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3. I can't believe I'm the first to ask this: what's the difference? n/t
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:10 PM
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4. "What's the difference?" Between Christian & Businessman?
Zero, Zilch, Nada.

No difference.

Tax them out of existence.

If they had to pay taxes the scam wouldn't work. They'd move on to financial services or war profiteering. Or something more honestly dishonest.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:34 AM
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9. Secular Business Men pay taxes, and Christians do not
Secular Business provides jobs and help to finance government expense. They provide a social benifit. Christians only take.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:19 PM
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5. Can you post this in the Illinois forum?
Morrison is not far from me. I wonder what the locals and other Illinois residents think about this.

My take: :puke:
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:52 PM
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7. I could but why don't you go ahead & do it.
:hi:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 06:12 PM
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8. Okay. Thanks. I will.
I wanted to be courteous.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 05:25 PM
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6. More like snake oil salesman.
:puke:
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 06:30 AM
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10. Actually, for "Supernatural" fans,
he looks -- not like a demon-possessed man -- but a demon.
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