My fellow DU'ers, start reading....The Emails

[Oilwellian]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013142.php

[eleny]

1. grazie

:kick:

[CatWoman]

2. George

you fucking RAWK!!!

:)

[Oilwellian]

6. LOL Cat

When I saw TPM had posted the first round, I just about fell off of my chair. I was so excited to post them here, I called them memos.

Page 11...mentions Issa. He apparently was complaining about Lam's lack of prosecuting immigration cases. Isn't Issa tied up in the Cunningham/Abramoff scandal? Weeee!!

[CatWoman]

8. I'm still scanning

I've found it's easier to start at the end, and work my way back.

[BuyingThyme]

13. Isn't Issa one of the jokers who are standing up against Gonzolaws?

I think the guys who are whipping Gonzo are only doing so in hopes that he will go away and take all of this with him. Sununu especially.

[BuyingThyme]

15. Issa: 'Congress was lied to.' Calls for ouster of attorney general if...

U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa said Wednesday he was "outraged" that executive branch officials recently gave a congressional hearing misleading and inaccurate testimony based on information that both the Department of Justice and the White House knew to be untrue.

...

Issa said Wednesday that he never made any complaints to Gonzales' office or to the White House relating to the Cunningham matter, and his only problem with Lam related to her prosecution rate on human smugglers and firearms cases.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/03/15/news/top_stories/1_01_463_14_07.txt

[Oilwellian]

20. LOL...major CYA'ing IMHO

Issa's up to his eyeballs in Cunningham scandal.

[robinlynne]

73. Cunningham was one of the signers of his complaint against carol lam.

[hang a left]

23. He's the guy that was crying on tv when after all of his hard work

getting the Davis recall here in california and the GOP picked Arnold.

What a burn.

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. and davis's recall

he financed that little pearl

[SoCalDem]

19. heya prez...

R U :hi: ?

[libnnc]

3. Better put on some coffee Ethel...

it's gonna be a looooong night!

tee heee...

If I didn't have a little paper due tomorrow, I'd join y'all. If I can get done I will.

[gatorboy]

4. Someone let us know when you hit a sweet spot!

[IChing]

5. direct link to the e-mails here

http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-1070319.pdf

They are very incriminating from what I read so far.

[Oilwellian]

7. Thanks IChing

read on. :D

[IChing]

11. This is one of things DU is good for mass research--KICKED/NOM

So get to work Folks, Let us not have Josh do all of the work.

[CatWoman]

12. but the Daily Show is on..........

:cry:

[Oilwellian]

26. LOL...so much to do...so little time...decisions decisions n/t

[eleny]

10. Looks like they're slamming Lam

I'm only up to page 17. But it appears they're releasing mail where Lam's perceived shortcomings regarding illegal immigration cases is discussed.

Still reading...

[eleny]

14. And now on page 24, it's against Bud Cummins

Looks like the first release is a CYA deal. Lam and Cummins not doing enough on the hot button issue of immigration prosecutions. They got complaints about these US Attys and that's what they're releasing first. What dweebs. As if they'll get away with clouding the issue.

[Oilwellian]

27. It gets better

Lam has friends.

[Starfury]

38. More Lam slamming in Part #7

Claiming that firearm prosecutions are down too much. And here I thought Republicans were against micromanaging...

[Duer 157099]

9. There are more uploaded...

As of right now:

http://judiciary.house.gov/

3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-1
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-2
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-3
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-4
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-5
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-6
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-7
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-8
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-9
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-10
3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-11

[robinlynne]

16. here's a summary of part one. Carol Lam.

Darrell Issa started a knockout fight with carol lam, based on a fake document he got from 2004, saying that border patrol agents were furious because prosecutors in san Diego were not prosecuting the people they caught. the document was written by a border patrol agent, unnamed, and not authorized by the heads of border patrol. He sent a scathing letter to justice criticizing carol lam. This is happening in June of 2006. Lam wrote back, that inf act, the document was from 2003, had been altered, and was unverifiable. saying if you want to meet about it, let's deal with facts.
Issa then got scores of repub signatures on an even worse letter to justice. here are some of the names of repu=bs who signed:

Pombo
Randy Duke Cunningham
Nunes
Doolittle
Mary Bono

19 in all, can't read all the names.

Then Issa went on CNN saying that Lam wasn't prosecuting smugglers of "illegal aliens'. just catching and releasing.

Lam wrote a letter back with the facts.

Feinstein also wrote to th Justice dept asking what was going on with the prosecutions.

This chapter ends with a letter from DOJ (assistant AG) to Issa, and another to Feinstien, saying that priorities had been established; the prosecutors were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing. In fact, LAm had 50% of her people on illegal immigration,and these priorities had been okayed by the border patrol. In other words, his complaint from border patrol was bullshit.

[eleny]

25. What did you make of the document that mentions Bud Cummins?

It's on page 23.

[robinlynne]

32. nothing. it was isolated. BUT part two is getting even better! internal DOj emails

show that carol lam prosecuted more "illegalos" than any other border district, including texas dsitricts with bigger offices...They are tryig to attack her based on number of illegals prosecuted, to say that she is not doing her job. One of the attackers is Duke Cunningham!!~!!

[eleny]

36. her meeting with issa and sensenbrenner is illustrative

she prosecuted alien rapists and murderers because they're more dangerous than coyotes bringing people across the border. budget issues prevail as in most gov't agencies. she used her resources well. both congressmen went away amicably. that meeting went well for her.

[robinlynne]

76. bad news about Bud. near the end of part six. He was totally playing along

with DOJ and helping to put Rove's guy into place. He offered to testify to help DOJ.

[Oilwellian]

17. The bottom of page 48

Issa paid a personal visit to Lam. Whoa. William Moschetta must be one of the DOJ attorneys working with Congress and turning over the emails. I think TPM covered them yesterday and it's reassuring to know there are still a few patriots in our government.

[SoCalDem]

18. Did he cry?

[Oilwellian]

24. ROFL

Did you see him at Waxman's hearing today? What a smarmy piece of excrement he is.

[fooj]

109. He's a prick.

Every time he's on Real Time he tries to turn on the charm. He plays both sides of the fence when necessary. Slithering, slimy SNAKE...

[BuyingThyme]

29. Is it appropriate for Congresspeople to call for Congresspeople

to step down?

How do we get rid of these bastards? Former U.S. attorneys?

[robinlynne]

72. There is a lot missing. big holes. and at least 3 copies of each page....

[spuddonna]

93. Yup...

I just scanned all the released docs... lots of dupes, seems to me like they selected some of the milder docs and mixed them about in the piles of resumes and copies of requests from the Senators for answers.

I have a feeling there is a mail server somewhere in danger of losing its' hard drive... :(

[deminks]

21. Part 2 Tim Griffin resume - 00 Florida recount team

Did we know this one served as a legal advisor for the Bush/Cheney 00 Florida Recount team? (page 26 of the pdf)

Tell me he wasn't a political hack appointment. I was not born yesterday. Just the day before.

[Marie26]

64. Total Rove stooge

He was also behind voter roll purges during the 2004 election.

"But the Committee missed a big one: Timothy Griffin, Karl Rove’s assistant, the President’s pick as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Arkansas. Griffin, according to BBC Television, was the hidden hand behind a scheme to wipe out the voting rights of 70,000 citizens prior to the 2004 election.

Key voters on Griffin’s hit list: Black soldiers and homeless men and women. Nice guy, eh? Naughty or nice, however, is not the issue. Targeting voters where race is a factor is a felony crime under the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

In October 2004, our investigations team at BBC Newsnight received a series of astonishing emails from Mr. Griffin, then Research Director for the Republican National Committee. He didn’t mean to send them to us. They were highly confidential memos meant only for RNC honchos. ... And we dug in, decoding, and mapping the voters on what Griffin called, “Caging” lists, spreadsheets with 70,000 names of voters marked for challenge. Overwhelmingly, these were Black and Hispanic voters from Democratic precincts.

The Griffin scheme was sickly brilliant. We learned that the RNC sent first-class letters to new voters in minority precincts marked, “Do not forward.” Several sheets contained nothing but soldiers, other sheets, homeless shelters. Targets included the Jacksonville Naval Air Station in Florida and that city’s State Street Rescue Mission. Another target, Edward Waters College, a school for African-Americans. If these voters were not currently at their home voting address, they were tagged as “suspect” and their registration wiped out or their ballot challenged and not counted."

Bush’s New US Attorney a Criminal? - http://www.gregpalast.com/bushs-new-us-attorney-a-criminal/

[spuddonna]

22. Why are some parts redacted?

I'm taking it these are scans of emails - where are the originals?

See page 34 of 46 - http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-3070319.pdf

"The only concern I have is that Paul just visited (redacted) and asked that (redacted) not be on the list."

I know I saw another 'white-out' earlier on, but this one caught my eye...

Happy hunting! :hi:

[Old and In the Way]

40. I noticed one train of e-mails had the following subject line

RE: Carol Lam /___________________/ Please call

Now I wonder who that redacted person is? And the subject? Obviously, it wasn't meant for written correspondence.

[spuddonna]

45. Yeah, but that's my point...

They're pumping out these redacted hardcopy emails - where the heck are the REAL emails? Shouldn't they have been forced to deliver those via soft-copy as well as hard copy?!
argh!!!

And yeah, I'd love to know who these 'white-out's were referring to... KKKarl perhaps, wanting to dish his 2 cents? :)

[mcctatas]

28. there is actually someone named McWeeny???

:evilgrin: I thought he was referring to Gonzo at first

[helderheid]

30. The e-mails, the e-mails, the the the e-mails

[notadmblnd]

31. pages 10 thru 15

Carol Lam issues a statement after Issa, appearance on Lou Dobbs complaining about her refusal to prosecute 100% of alien smugglers. Lam says Issa issued an alterd and unauthorized version of of an older border patrol report for one substation. The person altering the document is unknown. The original date of the report 2003 was altered to 2004 and contained editorial and commentary that had never been approved by the border patrol.

It also looks like AP reporter Elliott Spagot who also arrived on the scene in 2003 to look into immigrant smuggling and get the ball rolling criticizing USAs he writes in an article that says the justice department declined comment but that Representative Ric Keller R- FL told AG Gonzales that Carol Lams record on immigration smuggling was a Pathetic failure and that gonzales replied that he was urging USA to more activly enforce laws but noted that immigration cases created a tremendous strain.

and it goes on... I don't know if it's anything. Spagot and Issa looks like they made a concerted effort to work together on this and then played Lou Dobbs.

[robinlynne]

33. Look at all the repub signatures on Issa' flame letter! Duke Cunningham is one

Pombo, all the guys she was investigating right then!

[senseandsensibility]

35. Will this very salient point ever be made by our

crack media?

[Oilwellian]

43. I noticed that too

The Racketeers were getting antsy. :D

[IChing]

34. Great find

I'm waiting for more to upload it gonna be big
they thought they could overwhelm the congress and find time to bid time.

[Turn CO Blue]

146. Hold on, hold on! Feinstein sent in the same crap to Gonzo

here is Feinstein moaning about the same thing and she does it repeatedly (in other letters, and in letter to Lam herself, which I will find).
<http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt7-5070319.pdf>

So what the heckfire is up with Feinstein? Is everybody out there turning into Lou Dobbs?

[WillyT]

37. How Much More Personally Involded Can You Get In A Case ??? (Page 19)

Hope y'all can read this.

:shrug:

He even has his FBI number, whatever that is.

:scared:

[Turn CO Blue]

144. In all fairness, Feinstein was writing Lam about the same thing

[alcibiades_mystery]

39. Jesus, more fucking forged documents?!?

Issa's "Border Patrol Report" another fucking forged document.

Also, any DU Lou Dobbs "immigration hatin'" fans can eat it. The man is an obvious tool for right wing flacks like Mr. Issa that are running some sort of weirdo Rove operation, as here. It seems fairly obvious that the forged "Border Patrol Report" was yet another in a series of forgeries emanating from the Karl Rove Printing Company, LLC (as in, limited fucking liability, for real).

[Oilwellian]

51. Issa reminds me of a rich mafia boss

I caught the forged document part as well and Rove immediately popped into my head. Interesting.

[Patsy Stone]

41. Some poor man's name is McWeeney

It had to be noted.

[fooj]

110. Noted.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And with that, I'm off to bed! Thanks for the giggle.:hi:

[Marie26]

42. Prosecutors threatened w/retaliation if they spoke to media.

Cummins, one of the 8 fired prosecutors, got a call from the Eaton at the Deputy Att. General's Office. Eaton said that if Cummins continued to speak out about the forced resignations, they would "retaliate" against him in some unspecified way. Cummins said there was a "threatening undercurrent" to the call. Cummins then sent an email to all the other fired prosecutors, warning them that there could be payback from the DOJ if they spoke to the media or testified before Congress. WOW.

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-10070319.pdf

[eleny]

47. The DAG wets its pants over the idea of people voluntarily testifying

}(

[IChing]

44. I think they thought nobody reads anything like Republicans and their base

I can't believe the shit that coming out of this........
How much more do we need to impeach?

I want Gonzales to stay until after his "testimony"

[SeattleGirl]

46. Thanks!

Just got done reading some of them.

[IChing]

48. Where is that LAW STUDENT THAT SLAMMED THE PROTESTERS ON DU?

On how they were dressed

I hope you are reading this! I don't see you posting on this thread




Sorry SeattleGirl, not at you.....love ya...just had to get my snark in

the mail is so incriminating it is unfreaking believable.

I thought it would be dribble, but it is not.
I am reading about pathetic failure Gonzales said on the Cunningham vs border control issue


I can't give you the page

[SeattleGirl]

54. Definitely not dribble.

These people are such criminals.

[TankLV]

103. They're looking for other issues to be "concerned" about for us...

so we won't look bad to the repukes....

[eleny]

49. Right off the bat in the 3rd document at DOJDocs - budget issues

http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-3070319.pdf

Page 2 a memo from Elston illustrating budget cuts that keep coming and that the Western Washington office is hemorrhaging prosecutors and support staff. They may not be as responsive to the requests for action on cases referred to them.

A typical story of underfunding and then blaming the underlings who can't produce results.

[Pryderi]

52. Interesting date stamp...November 7th 2006..hmmm..

[spuddonna]

50. "Who will determine whether ...this requires the President's attention?"

Page 14 of 50 http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt2-1070319.pdf

But Harriet informs them her hero has left the night before, perhaps to tame more wild brush...

[spuddonna]

53. US Attn Plan - White House OPA (Office of Political Affairs?)

Not sure who the players are in the OPA, but they have a direct hand in the "US Attn Plan" pg 18 of 50 http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt2-1070319.pdf

ETA - Holy crap! page 20 outlines step by step the call structure for their plan! :wow: Page 21 "Prepare to Withstand Political Upheaval" (got that right!!)

[eleny]

55. The consider "pushing out" US Attys:

Page 22 --> http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt1-3070319.pdf

[jelly]

104. I want to know what the redacted names are.

Every copy/draft of that document and others discussing the plan for pushing people out has lists like that with names clearly covered up.

[eleny]

105. The fact they talk about pushing people out is contrary to the "pleasure" spin

Wanna take a guess on the names whited out? :D

[jelly]

115. I have no idea what the missing names might be. Do you?

Had no such ideas prior to my review and am too tired to form new ideas at this hour. :-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

holy crap

did not know we now have ex officio commisars.

Our neo cons have adopted trotskyte language or is this my paranoia?

Also quashing DEA press conferecnes?

Just how many press conferences have been quashed

[Burried News]

142. We don't call them Busheviks for the fun of it.

Karl Rove is the Joe Stalin of our time; think about Stalin in the early twenties while Lenin was still alive. He needs to be subpenaed and removed from politics before he is a position to do this again. This is about far more than Gonzo.
These emails are the documentation of a purge.

[WillyT]

56. Unless I'm Mistaken... They're Doing The "Needle In The Haystack" Dump Method

Went to House Judiciary Site and started at the bottom of the dump: 3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 2-9

Seems to be just a bunch of resumes.

:wtf:

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. Josh Marshall I think just asked for extra eyes

[WillyT]

60. OK... The Resumes Are For A List Of Attorney Nominees From DOJ

they apply to the dump labeled: 3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 2-8

Maybe they ARE dumping them in order.

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. They are that stupid

so it is possible

By the way, I think the Issa references are quite interesting... damn Darill has been a busy little boy

He has bagged a governor and a USA... boy he's been busy

[spuddonna]

59. You're so right...

Lots of repeats, but then all of a sudden you hit something new. They even threw in the transcripts of one of the hearings... Not to mention the 'white-outs' - gotta love it! Guess they were busy this weekend with the post-its and trying to figure out how to stall so they can get rid of the hard drive and soft copies...

[robinlynne]

77. and 5 copies of everything, so you have to read 5 times more paper.

[rainbow4321]

116. Which means the "3,000 pages"

handed over is really only 500 pages once you get rid of all the damn duplicates!

[robinlynne]

137. yep.

[Sydnie]

58. Well, well, well .... this is interesting

[eleny]

62. He could just answer - "I was *pushed* out".

See my posting #55 with insert above.

[Old and In the Way]

66. They couldn't find him a friendly corporate law office defending

Republicans under indictment that'd pay him $1.5MM/year?

Man, you'd think they'd have offered these USA's some really lucrative private sector jobs to buy them off.

[Patsy Stone]

98. That was Debra Wang

In the bit about McKay and the LiNX vs OneDOJ crap,3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-1, Pg. 9 Tom McWeeney (had to find out more about him) forward's Deb Yang's proposal for the (horror!) wrong software choice!

It seems McNulty liked OneDOJ, and McKay supported the software they were using in the Washington office. The software was made or managed by http://www.csmweb.com/index.htm">CSM (a totally bullshitty sounding corporate "productivity" consultancy) owned by one Tom McWeeney.

Debra, formerly the USA of Central District of California resigned in October of 2006, and went on to a career at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher.

Debra did very well for her party by investigating/indicting 23 Democratic elected officials & candidates between 2001-2006, as compared to only 4 Republicans. Heckuva job, Debra.

[Oilwellian]

68. Sampson's testimony on Thursday...

should be VERY interesting.

[robinlynne]

78. This page is amazing! Now dems have to ask exactly these questions!

[spuddonna]

63. Getting around the WAVES (Workers Appointments and Visitors Entry System) at the WH...

pg 25 of 50 http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt2-3070319.pdf

"Hey everyone, let's go in my car to visit the WH!!" Gee, I'd like to see those records! Who did Paul McNulty meet with that day when he had the carpool going?!

[rainbow4321]

106. self-delete..posted wrong place in thread

[Deb]

67. AG denied appt. due to motherhood (Is this new?)

dated 1/11/07 From Mark Pryor to AG
http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt2-6070319.pdf page 11

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. 437, follows all the Issa emails

your connection to Iglesias

Folks I have hardly begun but it seems they used immigration laws to go after choice targets... there is also a mention of Florida

the pattern is emerging

[rainbow4321]

70. Ooohh, this is gonna make for an interesting read

Remember when Abramoff's emails were released? They wrote back and forth so openly/arrogantly about their activities...I assume because they thought the emails would never be looked at by anyone except the person(s) that they emailed!

[jelly]

113. delete

[WillyT]

71. I've Got David Iglesias' Farewell E-Mail

@ pg.2 of dump: 3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 2-5

:shrug:

[WillyT]

74. Damn... They Didn't Bother To Redact His Personal (I Think) E-Mail Address

and there's a phone number there too.

Nice work assholes.

:mad:

[IChing]

75. Thank you Du for all of your work and nominations even though the feed

is not finished loading

AN YOU George Oilwellian
THANK YOU FOR PAYING ATTENTION.

I WANT HEARINGS..........THIS GOES TO THE PRESIDENT NOT JUST GONZALES.

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. Or at least theh man behind the curtain

the VEEP

Fully agreed....

And now I want to know what other stuff Darryl Issa has been up to...

One of my local boys.

THe notches are getting amazing

Governor
USA....
What's next and who is he working for and covering for?

[WillyT]

80. OOoooo... LOOKEE HERE !!!

Leadership Assessment of Fired US Attorneys!!! - Internal DOJ use Only

Go to page 20 at: 3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 2-5

Link: http://www.judiciary.house.gov

[WillyT]

82. David Bogden NV - Resistsnt To At least One Leadership Priority

Wait for it......... Obscenity Task Force !!!

Oh lawdy, lawdy!!!

:evilgrin:

[WillyT]

87. And Pages 29 - 34 Have Handwritten Talking Points On The Firings

and ends with...

'WH Counsel & Personnel Consulted -- POTUS Appointments'

Ain't seeing an author though.

:shrug:

[eleny]

84. They're definitely trying to prove their case

Btw, have you experienced screen-freeze over there? Could be my laptop. I get frozen up and need to shut down Firefox and reopen. Even rebooted once. Could be lots of visitors there.

Perhaps I should save the documents to my hard drive first.

[WillyT]

89. No Freezes So Far, But...

Sometimes Adobe can take a while to load, and it can get hung up. All the files are .pdf (Adobe), so that might be a problem.

Just guessing here.

:hi:

[eleny]

96. thx! got em on my drive now

B-)

[spuddonna]

91. Had the same thing happen...

Had to shut down Netscape (hey, I'm old! :) ) and restart a few times... Adobe has hung a few times too, but if I kill the window and reload the page, it keeps track of the page I was on, which surprised me.

Happy hunting! :hi:

[eleny]

95. i just downloaded them all to my drive

i'm old, too. but we get things figured out after all! :hippie:

[spuddonna]

97. Exactly!

Plus I'm patient... I remember using CompuServe and dialin so these here 'tubes' are mighty fast for me! :)

[eleny]

100. It was Pipeline for us in '91

There's definitely a bigger pipe these days!

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. God grief... methinnks I need coffee.

Will start from the begining again and start making some serious notes

Folks I recommend that we forwards to the Judiciary committe, some of us may be naive or new, but we may see things they will not... fresh eyes and all

[SlowDownFast]

83. TPM has set up a Sorting HQ Thread

for folks to report and/or discuss any key information found:

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002809.php

Perhaps DU'rs can cross-check and/or compare notes with TPM...

[IChing]

85. Or he can check this thread

good point but these people did good.

[IChing]

86. and this one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=452203&mesg_id=452203

[nadinbrzezinski]

88. goodie these are in better order

coffee brewing I fear an all nigher

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. fyi folks, these things have no security so be careful

[robinlynne]

111. what do you mean?

[nadinbrzezinski]

117. Security settings are at non encyopted

so with the appropriate software you can extract them into word or any other word processor.

I am using scansoft at the moment and I could potentially extract them into word... that is what I mean

And if you extract them... the work you might do will go for naught...I may, just for copy and pasting abilities into notes

[SlowDownFast]

92. 1-3 page 25

3-19-2007 DOJ-Released Documents 1-3 page 25.

From: Kyle Sampson
I am only in favor of executing on a plan to push some USAs out if we really are ready and willing to put in the time necessary to select candidates and get them appointed — it will be counterproductive to DOJ operations if we push USAs out and then don’t have replacements ready to roll immediately. In addition, I strongly recommend that, as a matter of Administration policy, we utilize the new statutory provisions that authorize the AG to make USA appointments. We can continue to do selection in JSC, but then should have DOJ take over entirely the vet and appointment. By not going the PAS route. We can give far less deference to home-State Senators and thereby get (1) our preferred person appointed and (2) do it far faster and more efficiently, at less political cost to the White House.

[robinlynne]

112. This email was out a week ago. not new. just a repeat.

[nadinbrzezinski]

94. page ten first series

the TO on that memo, aren't all of them the fired USA's

[nadinbrzezinski]

99. When did the WH know ?

Urgent report

Brian. we should loop in WH too. I will loop WH leg.

This is in the email from Smith Kimberly A
To Seidel Rebecca, dated tuesday may 23rd...

[eleny]

101. Margaret Chiara expresses her disappointment at being asked to resign

Page 21 of document 1-6

[TheBaldyMan]

136. She also has another email featured in DOJDocs2 DAG0000009

from where it mentions that good service is no guarantee of longevity. Elston has told her that several USAs are due for the chop once the dust settles after the election. The list was drawn up by then.

[Turn CO Blue]

145. Well, Margaret may just be a sell-out

she asks McNulty to get her a job in this email exchange:

Here is my transcription of the pdf - so forgive any errors:

From: Elston, Michael (ODAG)
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:28 PM
To: Goodling, Monica
Subject: Fw: Solution

This idea may help us avoid linking this to the others. What do you think?

- - - -Original Message - - -
From: McNulty, Paul J
To: Elston, Michael (ODAG)
Sent: Fri Feb 09 17:25:15 2007

Could we make this happen? Hire her into the EOUSA slot and then send her down to the NAC?

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From: Chiara, Margaret M. (USAMIW)
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:55 PM
To: McNulty, Paul J
Subject: Solution

Paul: You may recall from earlier communication with me that I have owned a home in South Carolina for several years.
The announcement (below) is for a detail at the NAC for which I am completely qualified and which I would enjoy doing. Obviously, I am not currently eligible for a detail position. Will you please intervene to make the position available for me? It would provide a timely and satisfactory solution to my current job search. Thank you.

Margaret


(what follows is a job description for: Experienced Prosecutor Needed to Serve as an Assistant Director, Office of Legal Education, EOUSA, Columbia, South Carolina)

[nadinbrzezinski]

102. ok folks, the memmo that the duckster signed

was dated Oct 5, 2005... that is close to the date he was indicted by Carol Lam... I bet they wanted her out before she indicted the Duckster.

[rainbow4321]

107. Hastert and "POTUS" asking about no prosec. for less than 500 lbs of pot

http://www.judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/DOJDocsPt2-3070319.pdf

page 31/50

We have another question posed by Sen Hastert. He understands that the AUSA for Nogales will not prosecute marijuana possession for amounts less than 500 pounds. Seems unlikely to me, but we need to get to the truth as this was raised in meeting with POTUS.

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[eleny]

108. Did you read the Cummins letter on page 32 of doc 1-6?!

Two portions - Cummins writing to Elston about Tim Griffin. Some finger pointing and cya:

[jelly]

114. The Cummins 2/20/2007 e-mail was the worst I saw.

Otherwise, I didn't see anything other than documents carefully calculated to support the WH company line. It appears that they have built a case to support a "valid" explanation for having asked each of the USAs to resign. In most cases the explanations are amorphous, consisting of criticisms based on suibjective observations on which reasonable minds could differ, but their response will be, "prove that it was not these reasons, but rather the public corruption investigations, that formed the basis for these USAs being canned."

Unless there exists correspondence that has yet to see the light of day, or some brave soul comes forward to testify about communications that were not reduced to writing, I have a sick feeling that the bastards are going to get away with it. But then, that might just be the sleep deprivation talking.

[nadinbrzezinski]

118. No they have not

Locally the LAM \Cunningham fracas was really well followed

Cunningham signed the letter sent by Issa, and in my view that was an attempt to get her off the trail

In the end they succeeded, with his friends

[jelly]

120. Okay, thanks.

Who do you suppose they should/can call to testify to flesh out that lead?

[nadinbrzezinski]

122. I'd start with Daryll Issa

and the Commander of the El Cajon Border Patrol Station as well as Internal affairs

[eleny]

121. They talk about pushing the USA'a out. And...

Cummins writing to Elston about Tim Griffin Page 32 of doc 1-6

Cummins's wife blames Tim Griffin for "getting the controversy started that led to all the hearings, etc"
and...
"If I (Cummins) testified I don't think I could screw this up any worse than Tim and the White House have done---and it might help---DOJ's call."

The administration is in some hot water, jelly.

[nadinbrzezinski]

123. And on the first set

Urgent report

Brian. we should loop in WH too. I will loop WH leg.

This is in the email from Smith Kimberly A
To Seidel Rebecca, dated Tuesday may 23rd...
DAO 438

[eleny]

125. If you haven't read it yet...

Do read the Cummins letter I referred to. The whole email is very interesting. They wanted Cummins to write a recommendation for Griffin. But Cummins's wife didn't want him to. She blames Griffin for this whole mess. This is a finger pointing to Rove and Griffin for cooking up the whole deal. Just as DUers surmised since day one.

But dig it - if the wife of a US Atty knows who to blame, how secret could it be that this is a White House scheme? The hard part is getting the ducks in a row and quacking. Meantime Cummins is promising to get his wife to let him write the recommendation. Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the Cummins house in those days. He's playing ball with the administration and she's out for blood.

I'm blathering now. Time for sleep.

[nadinbrzezinski]

126. I'll get to it soon enough

coffee is cheap and this night is long I fear... or at least until hubby shows up

[eleny]

129. Yeah, there's so much crap and duplication to wade through

Lots of good stuff over at TPM that people have posted.

[nadinbrzezinski]

130. Some of it is not duplication even if it looks that way

they kept the draft letters to both Issa and Feinstein.

[eleny]

132. kewl!

i'm glad i dl'd it all to my drive. that page will surely be slow tomorrow.

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. Here is a question for you

Why should a USA need to notify DC when meeting a Congressman representing the district? I may be naive, but I think it is a valid question. Also so far they are trying to remove the good perfoance from the letters

2\484

[jelly]

127. Ooooh. I finally get it!

Thanks so much for clearing that up. I had no idea what to make of all that Griffin/Cummins stuff. Guess I had not been following that aspect of this scandal too closely. Veeery interesting, indeed. Cummins' wife sounds like quite a lady. :-)

[eleny]

131. Good for you!

I'm a novice at this. But I love research. And it's coming together for me, too.

G'nite!

[jelly]

133. Keep up the good work, putting the pieces together for the denser amongs us.

I'm off to get some sleep too. I have to be up with my kids in three hours!? (eeps)

'Night!

[jelly]

124. I can see how saying they are "pushing out" the USAs sounds bad.

But I'm not having success trying to wrap my mind around the significance of the Cummins/Griffin correspondence you point out (which I read).

Maybe it would help if I understood: how did Tim start the controversy?

Beyond that, I read the reference to the WH screwing things up to possibly being a simple reference to the benign explanation by many Repubs that the WH should have been more blunt and upfront from the get-go about the reasons for the dismissals -- that they acted as though they had something to hide when in fact, they were entirely within their rights to dismiss these USAs.

Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this. Nobody wants to see these idiots suffer more than I, but I ask questions because I sense we're going to need not just good but great evidence if it is to withstand the Republican spin-machine.

**edited to say, on the Tim issue -- just read eleny's response above and now I GET IT.

[eleny]

128. Evidently, Cummins's wife knows the score

It's not a matter of any one communication they've uploaded. They aren't going to upload a real smoking gun. But they're terribly stressed over their right now and some mails with tidbits like these are slipping through. It's the drip drip drip that will help the committees. With these, they will ask pointed questions to people under oath and ask for more documents. Others might come forward to fill in the blanks.

Time for sleep. Goodnight.

[robinlynne]

139. way at the end of the docs, feinstein says to gonzalez, during the first hearing

in january that the law says: when an attorney completes their 4 years, THEY STAY IN OFFICE, until the next attorney has been appointed and vetted. She read the law to him. They're going to pass a law this week taking the interim appt away from gonzales, and giving it ot the circuit court. I would love to see san diego appoint Carol Lam! The white house could only take her out after senate approval...

[robinlynne]

138. well, your analysis is of these documents, and right. but there is a lot more still

to come out. those senators are not that stupid....

[robinlynne]

119. document 2-4 pages 4-8 has lists of complaints about each prosecutor

This will be their argument. pages of complaints. insubordination. did not follow such and such rule. swore at a superior, on and on.
\
BUT of course, the original documents, where this info came from is MISSING...

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. Oh and a piece of useless trivia

DOJ still uses Word Perfect

;-)

[skids]

141. THAT I don't fault them for.

...it was vastly superior to Word, as was Quattro Pro to Excel/Lotus.

[robinlynne]

140. its 2 in the morning. going to bed. good night and good reading!

[JNelson6563]

143. K&R

Great stuff and all should read! :kick:

Julie

[texpatriot2004]

147. Kick it for DU readers nm