Despite what some people say

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The current administration is NOT conservative. Despite what some people think, Republicans are not necessarily our enemy.

I think we need to create a new name for the party that currently holds our country in its grips. There is very little, ultimately, that makes the current idiots in charge bear any real resemblance to the concept that was once called the GOP.

Proof: Conservatives are for fiscal responsibility, states' rights and small government.

We just KNOW that the idiots have broken all ties to these things--they allowed the FEDERAL government to choose the winner in the 2000 election; they have no where NEAR fiscal responsibility, and let's face it--they have an even bigger FEDERAL government than nearly any other in the past.

In addition, if you didn't lie on your resume, you don't belong to this administration, because lying is a prerequisite for being part of this group; if you stood for ANYTHING good in the past, you wouldn't know it any longer; and if you haven't got a fortune, you're the token poor guy.

This administration has nothing good that it stands for, nor will it ever. Since even now the lily-livered Dems refuse to push for impeachment, this administration will continue their rampant disintegration of everything real americans hold dear: freedom, free speech, ALL our civil rights, and the entire Constitution of this country. They have turned the U.S. into just another branch of Liars Anonymous, with long time members at the helm.

But no--it isn't true conservatism that occupies the whote house, because true Republicans who had even an inkling of this groups policies would have voted against them if they knew how terrible things would be. It is the mass media which propped up this group of losers and made them look good--this slimey bunch of fascists who had so many secret agendas going in that policy was written long before they actually got into office. Their evil has taken us down roads we should never have even known the names of, and has made the U.S. look like National Socialism all over again. The major difference is that Adolph Hitler had a brain, even though he was completely sociopathic. The idiot in charge of the U.S. right now owes much to his propaganda minister, Karl Rove, right now, seeing how Rove has managed to make the idiot look less idiotic than we know he really is.

But no--this isn't conservatism. And WE know it's not progressive or Democratic. Perhaps theocratic fascism sounds good? How about despotic theocracy? How about authoritative totalitarianism? There could be many names for what the past 6+ years have been, but conservatism isn't one of them.

The true Republicans who care about our country should join with the Democrats and help heal this country from the horror of the past 6+ years. We need to fight this regime now more than ever.

And while we are talking about this, let's also get rid of the influence of the radical religious right, the biggest hypocrites ever walking. HE is THEIR choice--let's remember--Clinton humbled our country getting a blow job in the white house, but Bush gets a free ride giving a blow job to every citizen of the U.S. And the fundies and other members of the RRR are twisting the nuts of each and every member of this administration, going joyously into orgasm as they continue to do so. THEY are part of the real opposition--the blasphemers who think that they are the only ones going to see their god--the one with the horns and tail, methinks.

[Skittles]

1. PLEASE stop that conservatism = fiscal responsibilty CRAP

repukes have NOT just sucked for the past 6 years - it has been a LOOOOOOONG time coming

[Telly Savalas]

2. It's been 50 years since a Republican president signed a balanced budget

and that only happened because the top marginal income tax rate was roughly 90% -- hardly a conservative idea of taxation.

I was really hoping that these threads pining for "true conservatism" had become extinct.

While the current generation of the GOP may be too corrupt to get rid of pork spending, too cowardly to cut non-military government programs as much as they'd like to, and too incompetent to operate with any modicum of financial efficiency, they still adhere to the conservative philosophy of "small government." When it comes to addressing major domestic issues: health care, energy policy, poverty, etc., their so-called solutions invariably try to keep government out of the picture and steer things towards the private sector. More often than not this leads to ineffective policies.

Fuck small government. I want a government that works.

[devilgrrl]

6. Thank you!!!!!

I'm sick of that line of crap too - Republics have NEVER been fiscally conservative, prudent, responsible, etc... in my lifetime.

Same goes for the "smaller government" bullshit!

:nuke:

[Skittles]

8. I am SOOOOOO f***ing sick of it

I'll give you a prime example of "conservative fiscal responsibility" - whereas Democrats would prefer spending on programs to intervene with juveniles who have gotten in trouble with the law, repukes prefer to wait until they are adults, have committed extremely SERIOUS crimes, and then spend tons and TONS of money to build the prisons to keep them locked up. Then repukes have the NERVE to pat themselves on the back and say LIBERALS WASTE "MONEY ON SOCIAL SPENDING".

Conservatives make me SICK and I tell you I have about HAD it with DUers who repeat this f****ing fraud of a myth. :puke:

[WinstonSmith4740]

3. We don't have to come up with anything new.

The name for these guys has been around for years. They're fascists, pure and simple. Think I'm over-reacting?

Fascism, n.
1. the doctrines, methods, or movements of the Fascisti.
2. a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of the opposition (unions, other parties, minority groups, etc.), the retention of private ownership of the means of production under centralized governmental control, belligerent nationalism and racism, glorification of war, etc.

Source: Webster's New 20th Century Dictionary

Let's see now, "rigid one-party dictatorship"? Check. "Suppression of the opposition"? Done. "Retention of private ownership..."? No bid contracts, check. "Belligerent nationalism & racism." Got it. "Glorification of war"? Especially if there's no chance of having to do any fighting themselves.

I'd say if the shoe fits...

[MADem]

4. I have to agree with SKITTLES--Ronald Reagan was a big fucking spender

Mister Six Hundred Ship Navy, he spent like a drunken goddamned Sailor. He spent, spent, spent...and he was supposedly a 'true conservative.' His little VP spent like mad too--and Uncle BILL had to balance the books.

The new true conservatives like to run up the goddamned credit card, and then when VISA calls and says "You're cut off" they run, leaving Uncle Democratic to pay off the damned bill.

Fuck the true conservatives. Fuck the Republicans.

Yes, some nice guys like Linc Chaffee get run over by the Fuck'Em Bus, but oh well....

If the "good Republicans" want to join us, they can start by marching down to the registrar and switching their party affiliation. Then, they're welcome.

[sandnsea]

5. From Bonzo to Gonzo

Republicans are always shitty for the country. Always. It's just the way it is. The few that aren't completely horrible have simply believed their own propaganda about how bad Democrats are. Even so, their best Republican, Olympia Snowe, isn't significantly different than Joe Lieberman.

Oh, and states' rights and small government isn't all the Reagan babiess think it is. That's the opposite of FDR and LBJ. It didn't bring economic equality to the masses and it didn't bring civil equality to minorities. It's Republicanism - and it doesn't work.

[Skittles]

9. SANDNSEA NAILS IT

please, people, stop falling for what conservatives SAY they stand for and LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND SEE WHAT THEY REALLY STAND FOR - not just now but ALWAYS

[Eric J in MN]

7. Conservatives are what they do, not what they say.

Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush both run up deficits and violate civil liberties.