NOT PhotoShopped: this FUX "news" caption is a winner

[npincus]

Perhaps you've seen this, but I just did for the first time and it blew my mind: "All out Civil War in Iraq: Could it be a good thing?" What the HELL is wrong with these people? Well, it's an admission, of sorts. But my, this glass of hemlock is really half-full!




from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2007/03/20/fox-news-mentions-iraq-an_e_43842.html

[Demeter]

1. I'd Blame It on Spring Fever, If It Weren't a Frequent Event

What is WRONG with those people, anyway? Too many bong hits for Jesus?

[tridim]

2. Well, perpetual war certanly is a good thing for a propaganda outlet like Faux

Somehow I don't think the headline is asking that question of the Iraqis or our soldiers.

[Supersedeas]

15. We have always been at war with EuraAsia....eerrrr....EastAsia

[The2ndWheel]

3. Was the American Civil War a good thing?

Basically it was a war over two different ways of life. Hasn't every stable state had a good old fashioned civil war? Isn't that how they eventually became a stable state? If Iraq is going to be Iraq, don't they have to find out which way is going to win?

[Straight Shooter]

5. The American Civil War wasn't a religious war.

Basically, more or less, that's the situation in Iraq.

[The2ndWheel]

8. What's the difference?

A civil war is a civil war is a civil war. Religious, economic, moral, etc, they all count. They're all centered around different ways of life, different thoughts, different attitudes about different issues.

[Straight Shooter]

13. I'm not going to explain the difference.

No country invaded us and instigated a civil war, anyway. There are a lot of differences that a historian of the Civil War can tell you, but I cannot pinpoint them. Granted, they all count. But a civil war which erupts as a direct result of incompetent and malicious interference from a foreign country is a whole 'nother matter than one that springs from within the country because of idealogical differences.

I'm not going to sit back and say that just because we survived our Civil War "intact" means that the civil war in Iraq is a good thing. I'm not even sure we survived it intact. Seems like a lot of people are still fighting for that old way of life. (I don't mean you, but you know the kind of people to whom I'm referring.)

"Men never do evil so cheerfully and completely as when they do it from religious conviction." (I forgot the author's name.)

[The2ndWheel]

18. But when we were free from the Brits, we had our civil war

"But a civil war which erupts as a direct result of incompetent and malicious interference from a foreign country is a whole 'nother matter than one that springs from within the country because of idealogical differences."

Those ideological differences were in Iraq before we went in, and order was only kept thanks to a dictator that we helped prop up after an empire carved it up on a map. Obviously the empire that drew up the country of Iraq owned America at one point, and only after getting out from under its power did we end up having a civil war over ideological differences. We had our civil war, which allowed the union to stay together and expand beyond the shores, then eventually we took over the global empire torch from the empire that owned us and carved up Iraq. Not sure where I'm going with that, but that's crazy.

"I'm not going to sit back and say that just because we survived our Civil War "intact" means that the civil war in Iraq is a good thing."

I'm not trying to say it's a good thing. I'm just saying that America wouldn't be a stable state without our civil war, unless we had just stayed with straight up tyranny. Iraq has never even been an actual country outside of name only, and if everyone wants a stable Iraq, it's going to have to come by force. It's either going to be from the artificial state we help prop up, or it's going to come after each side figures out who will be running things after their civil war. Every country we know today has come about through force, one way or another, at some point in history.

This is the problem, we all have to live with the fuck ups that happened from decades or centuries before today. Throw in the Ottoman empire, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, it never ends.

[Straight Shooter]

20. It's all very complicated, the transfer of the reins of power.

I believe what we have in Iraq now is called blowback, due to our interference. What's happening in Iraq is a result of the people themselves now reacting to outside forces, instead of acting in a way to extricate themselves from the outside forces. There is so much at stake beyond idealogy, such as control of the wealth from oil. Imagine how long our civil war would have gone on with that kind of wealth up for grabs.

I'm aware of the long history of Iraq's problems and the U.S. is as much to blame for installing Saddam as Saddam was to blame for his own crimes. Frankly I don't see how the country will survive unless another strongman emerges, and my guess is that strongman will be a vehement enemy against the U.S. I think the Sunni are done for, in the long run, in the sense of establishing themselves as a power to be reckoned with. Even if Iraq splits into three sections, the Sunnis and Shiites will be warring with each other for generations to come. I think that's just the way it is. :(

[va4wilderness]

4. Is this their (i.e., Bush Admin & propaganda wing-Fox) new take on the War?

First it was WMD, then we were going to liberate them, then we were going to "nation-build" a new democracy in the Middle East, then the insurgency was on its death throes, then we were definitely "not" in a civil war, and now ...

"all out civil war could be a good thing."

What next?

[renate]

6. OMG

:wow:

What on earth is in the water at Fox? And how are they getting it into the people who still watch this crap?

[Oilwellian]

7. Swamprat caught this one...

and went to town on it. :D

[npincus]

9. oh, man. Swampy's a genius.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. Future Fux News caption: "Armageddon: Could it be a good thing?"

There might very well be some Fux viewers looking on the bright side of total nuclear annihilation, dreaming their dreams about the rapture.

I cannot believe that a civil war could have a bright side. These people live in an alternate reality.

[npincus]

11. how about "Beheading and Power Drills: Cure for Migraines?"

[NewJeffCT]

12. Jon Stewart destroyed this a while back

the use of the question mark, or Cavuto, as he called it...called the Cavuto because it is frequently used by the "journalist?" Neil Cavuto on Fox.

Compared it to asking "is your mom a whore?" "I'm not saying your mom is a whore, I'm just asking the question."

[Cabcere]

16. Yep, I remember that

I think there's a DUer who uses a quote from that as their signature - something about using the ? as a condom to prevent catching anything from their GOP c***sucking. :P I'll try to find a link to the vid on C&L...I'm pretty sure they have it (or did).

[PerfectSage]

14. If Bush gets impeached FUX news caption will say...

...Democratic President Bush impreached for...

[Cabcere]

17. Sad thing is, you're probably EXACTLY right.

I mean, they already did it with Foley... :shrug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

19. Every first-year journalism student learns

to avoid question heds and ledes — and I mean legitimate questions, such as, "Did city council violate Brown Act?"

Faux Noise poses questions to which it obviously already has its answer, which it then tries to shove down the lemmings' throats.

[Kurovski]

21. You are absolutely correct, O Rex...

and by the way, "when did you stop beating your wife?" :-)