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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:35 PM
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The Anti-Choice Movement: We are encouraged by us getting trounced
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 05:37 PM by ck4829
You have to hand it to the American Life League’s Katy Walker. Despite the fact that the every one of the anti-choice movements ballot initiatives went down in defeat in the last election by wide margins, Walker says that are going to press forward, especially with their “personhood” efforts:

With a pro-abortion president soon taking the helm in Washington, the pro-life movement will stay focused while also pursuing new ideas.

Katy Walker of the American Life League (ALL) says old approaches will continue, but a relatively new method will be pursued. "The idea of personhood in this movement is really the only thing, the only option left to us, and it's one of the best options and one of the most beautiful concepts I've heard in a long time," she contends. "We're very excited about it."

She defines the term. "Personhood is the idea. It's cultural change and legislative change, working towards defining all human beings as persons," Walker explains. "It's the last frontier of the civil rights movement -- that every human being deserves his rights under the law."

Walker adds that life begins at fertilization and ends at natural death. Colorado's pro-life movement was able to put a personhood amendment on the November 2008 ballot, but it failed to pass. "The fact that they got 27 percent of Colorado, which is historically a liberal state, is very hopeful, I think," she notes.

It seems as if Walker isn’t just being naïve here, but down right delusional. Seeing the personhood amendment get trounced in Colorado by a 3 to 1 margin is certainly not cause for optimism, and playing that loss off as a victory because Colorado is a “liberal state” is ridiculous, seeing that it went for George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004.

On top of that, as Laura Chapin pointed out, the personhood amendment even lost in El Paso County - which is the home of Colorado Springs, Focus on the Family, and Dr. James Dobson – 65% to 35%.

http://rightwingwatch.org/content/we-are-encouraged-our-27-showing
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:49 PM
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1. "every human being deserves his rights"
as long as they are not gay or Mexican or Muslim or something.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:52 PM
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2. Or female...of any skin color, sexual identity, creed, ethnicity, class, or
physical attribute.

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:54 PM
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3. Another head of the hydra known as the Roman Catholic Church
Hierarchy heard from.

Until and unless we remove their tax-exempt status, at the very least, we are going to be battling their power and belief system on myriad fronts.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:17 PM
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5. I looked them up
Yup, Catholic.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:24 PM
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8. You doubted me?! LOL Just kidding. I try to know what I'm talking
about before posting. Sometimes it works. It can be hell when it doesn't.

Yep, the Catholic Hierarchy - again/still. They actually founded and funded what has become the anti-choice movement here in the US.

...Family Life Bureau of the National Catholic Welfare Conference, soon to become the National Conference of Catholic Bishops/United States Catholic Conference under guidelines approved by the Council. He became director of the Family Life Bureau in 1967, one year before the encyclical Humanae vitae was issued, and director of the newly formed Office for Pro-Life Activities in 1972, months before the U.S. Supreme Court’s abortion decision in Roe v. Wade.


link to a .pdf with the information. They're quite proud of their history meddling in US politics.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:38 PM
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9. It could have been the Mormons
:shrug:

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:45 PM
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10. Ah, gottcha. :D They came to the game a bit later, if I remember
correctly. The coalition between the various denominations in the US was gradual as they each think the other is "evil."

The Mormons' (LDS) big thing, around the time the Catholics started attacking choice, was the Equal Rights Amendment. They went whole hog against that.

The "Moral Majority" which would later morph into the "Christian Coalition" would join in around this time period and another head the hydra would be manifest.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:59 PM
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4. What an asshole. K&R
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:22 PM
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6. life ends at natural death? okay. no more cancer treatments for the ALL
I hate these people. get your fucking noses out of everyone else's panties. go get fucked. literally.

work to feed, house and education children who are on this earth now.

otherwise, shut the fuck up.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:23 PM
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7. also, no more treatment for diabetes, heart medication, high blood pressure..
because all of those things interfere with the natural processes of life.

no more transplants or surgeries to save the lives of anyone who agrees with this organization either.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:47 PM
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11. Yep. Dick Cheney should rip his pacemaker out right fucking now!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:25 PM
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12. if only...
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