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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:46 PM
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Outside of the loan arguments. Anyone resent all the auto industry people testifying basically act
like we, the North American population have a responsibility to buy cars.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:47 PM
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1. I'm tired of certain DUers who act like Americans have a responsibility
To accept lower wages or give up their jobs.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:54 PM
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7. My thoughts exactly!
Too many DU'ers are thinking like freepers on this subject.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:47 PM
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2. Or, more specifically, THEIR cars.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:51 PM
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3. There was a time when Americans put America first.
Before all else.

Today, so many Americans are so self centered that they cannot see how their actions impact their fellow neighbors.

Thank goodness this attitude didn't exist in the early years of our country. For if it did, no one would have been willing to sacrifice anything, and we would have never made it this far.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:52 PM
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5. So we should buy new cars as a sacrifice for our region?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 02:24 PM
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16. That's being a bit narrow minded.
Americans need to put America first.

Support American companies.

Buy American products whenever they can.

Register a complaint when all you can find is cheap Chinese shit.

Tell your Representatives that the worldwide free market is a fallacy, and that to compete fairly, America would have to become a third world country first. (And we're well on our way there, according to some.)

America needs to make things, we can't just consume it doesn't work.

And our goods need to be imported into other countries with the same freedoms their goods are imported into ours.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:52 PM
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4. what I don't understand is
how they expect the rest of the nation to afford a car when all the other jobs are gone.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:53 PM
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6. On $14 hour
That's the funny part. What a bunch of idiots. And yes a few will show up and insist they are paying a mortgage and $500 a month health insurance and buying a brand new car on that salary. Whatever. It's not sustainable.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:56 PM
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8. That's why two people in a family are working.. My husband and I both make
a little less than that per hour and must pay all those items.. If we were on our own, we'd be living with our parents. Its not sustainable. If we asked congress critters to survive on that pay and try affording rent/ mortgage, insurances, and all the other things like water, trash, etc., they couldn't do it.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:57 PM
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9. I resent the DLC-types on DU who are trying to rally people AGAINST the U.S. auto industry
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 12:58 PM
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10. I am sick of rightwing shills using the language of multiculturalism to promote corporatism.
Sounds like anybody you know? :hi:
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:06 PM
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11. The auto industry built the middle class...
Let's just let them die, we all go back to picking produce and working in sweat shops. Now that's a plan! ><
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:08 PM
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13. You think we have a responsiblity to buy new cars? How often? Every 10, 5, 3 years?
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:12 PM
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15. As often as needed.
Which is about every 7 years for me.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:56 PM
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18. What if I don't want to own a car at all?
I'm trying to simplify my life. But in order for a wasteful industry to continue producing its poisonous product, I have to buy something from them every seven years. And if I don't, it's because I hate auto workers?

Yeah. Okay. :crazy:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:07 PM
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12. Resent is not the right word in my case, but I do find it ironic that it was UAW,
among many other unions, that refused to strike in solidarity for their brothers and sisters in the 80s when all this started to take shape.

Now that they're looking at the demise of their lives it's time for solidarity, but there are too few unions left to make much difference and the laws we've passed make strikes ineffective.


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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:09 PM
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14. LOL. You are anti-labor, but strictly out of a sense of revenge, huh? nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 03:43 PM
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17. Not anti-labor at all, just impressed with the turn-about. The end result of this,
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 03:51 PM by greyhound1966
whichever way it goes, will be the union people will get fucked over, just like the millions and millions before them.

I notice you don't mention, let alone defend, the UAW's egregious behavior in the 80s.

ETA: I guess I should remind you that I was one of those "radicals" that tried to convince the other big unions to support their brothers and sisters in their time of need to avoid just this scenario. Of course, they were being taken over by their "executive class" leaders and knew that they could cut their own deals and didn't need the others support.


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