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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:14 PM
Original message
If you don't drive a hybrid, you suck.
If you don't drive an American car, you suck.

American hybrids suck.

So basically, you suck.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:15 PM
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1. Uh........
There' s a bit of an essential flaw in your reasoning.

Hint: You're missing something.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:15 PM
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2. I walk
therefore I do not suck--if I did I would be coughing all the way to work!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:15 PM
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3. If you drive a car you suck
Period.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. That would be the conclusion.
Apologies to all the non-sucky non car drivers
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
23. Translation - If you don't live in a dense city and work there - You suck!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #23
38. Imagination would help, wouldn't it?
Why can there be alternative transportation in other places?
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #38
64. Economics.
Some areas are just a tad too rural.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #64
68. bicycling and walking tend to work well in small towns though
so a major metro area is hardly a requirement for a non-automotive lifestyle.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:48 AM
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74. Sometimes you live in another town, or tens of miles away
and in a region where the weather can be uncooperative. Economics drives this - through housing prices, job locations, stores. Life isn't a fairly tale.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:10 AM
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75. Economics is just one of many factors that determine transportation choices
Generally, people prefer using cars to walking or biking.

You can have two nearly identical cities, where the only significant difference is the availability of parking.

In the city where parking is easy, more people will drive.

It has very little to do with economics, just personal preference.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:17 PM
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5. Thanks for the update!
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 05:18 PM by Pharaoh
I was not aware how much I sucked with my 4 cylinder German car!

I will now go out and shoot myself :hide:

Edited to add: Zig Heil! :patriot:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:19 PM
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6. I believe driving a very old economy car with good mileage
has a smaller OVERALL carbon footprint than driving a brand new ANYTHING, including a brand new hybrid. Nobody has to manufacture ANYTHING for me to drive my old 4-cylinder economy car. Especially since I rarely drive more than 3 or 4 times a month, and never more than 10 miles round trip. For long trips I take Amtrak.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:21 PM
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9. You suck less. n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:11 PM
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31. Older cars less safe. This drives up insurance costs.
Poster doesn't suck less.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:47 PM
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40. That depends heavily on the car..
What really drives up insurance costs is age, driving record and type of car.

Young guy with poor driving record driving a sporty car is going to pay heavily, think frat boy in a new Mustang GT.

Older woman with good record driving even a high performance luxury sedan will be considerably lower, think soccer mom in an older Q45 or LS400.





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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:33 PM
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60. O.K. um... Not class conscious to realize that poor people pay with lives and health
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 08:45 PM by Hissyspit
because they can't afford new and safer cars.

I'm tryin', here!

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:56 AM
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66. We are driving a $900 car right now, we fit pretty handily into the "poor" category.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about here.

Newer cars are not automatically safer than older ones, it depends heavily on the particular car in question.

As I pointed out, an early 90's Q45 or LS400 will be considerably more safe than a brand new Mustang GT, when you put the likely driver into the equation the safety disparity becomes even more pronounced.

Auto safety is determined largely by the driver, a competent and safe driver makes even an older car more safe than an incompetent and unsafe driver in the latest car.



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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #9
73. You need to go back to school and finish the 10th grade
Maybe you can say something besides "you suck".
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:19 PM
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7. Oh joy, trollbait!
:popcorn:
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:41 PM
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24. That was going to be my response...
This is either Trollbait or Flamebait. I'm leaning more towards Flamebait.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:22 PM
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50. In retrospect, flame bait would have been more accurate.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:20 PM
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8. i drive a mazda miata.
it gets 29 mpg. hubby drives a porcshe which gets 28 mpg. neither car is american or a hybrid. i guess we both suck. :sarcasm:
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DonEBrook Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:22 PM
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10. Me too. Zoom Zoom!!
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 05:23 PM by DonEBrook
:D
uh by the way it's the most fun I ever have without being nekkid
:rofl:
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. yep. mine is a 2005.
i absolutely love it. i'm 67 and i've had quite a few cars, but this one is the most fun. i had a 94 toyota celica -- to me that was a "fake" sports car.
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DonEBrook Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:00 PM
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30. wow, I'm 66...I've had about a hundred cars including a vette,
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 06:00 PM by DonEBrook
3 Porsches, a 190SL but this is the most fun one yet! I bought it sight unseen off Ebay early this year (it's an 04) and it came with a hard top which I removed 5 minutes after it was delivered to me and it has been out in the garage ever since. (The top, not the car heh heh) :D

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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. hubby drives a 2007 porsche.
he had a 98 vette which was a lemon. i have the hard top. i bought the car new and immediately ordered the hardtop. i can't drive a convertible here in the summer. i'm in phoenix and it gets up to 118. i only like having the top off when it's below 80. otherwise it's too hot for me.

100 cars? a typical man. lol. hubby has had many more cars than i have. i get attached to mine and drive them for a long time. before the miata i had a 97 toyota corolla which i bought in 97 with 14,000 miles on it. they wanted $13,000. i said "i'll give you $12,000". i drove it out of there. i kept it till late 2004 when i bought the miata. i thought of keeping it. actually right after i got the miata it rained so i took the corolla, but then she was just sitting there. she kept saying to me "please drive me, i was good to you for 7 years." finally i put an ad on the internet. i sold it to a nice young woman for $4,500. i'm sure she's still very happy with it.

when i bought the miata i figured i'd keep it 2 years and then i would want something bigger. i've had it for more than 4 years and can't imagine ever giving it up.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
25. yeah, now try driving it naked
not that i've ever done that in my miata..
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DonEBrook Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. I might but not with the top down, it's 34 degrees here.
:scared:
:D
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. *aaaaaay Cool
Driving naked in a Miata *hen it is 34 degrees outside.

No* THAT is COOL.

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR *Hite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter bet*een "V" and "X", and I urge you to do the same.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:04 PM
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43. I have a Miata and a Jeep, need 4 wheel drive in the winter
it's hilly and snowy here. My Miata is much older however; a '90. They're really fun to drive.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #43
53. hubby has a 2001 toyota tundra.
because i have the miata and he has the porsche, we need something a little bigger to do shopping. the tundra has 4 wheel drive. the road we live on is paved, but it was not when we first moved here. we have to drive up 2 steep hills. i did it with my corolla though. just last week we went up a road where he put it in 4 wheel.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:22 PM
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11. I have a small construction company.
I really must suck, 'cause I have to use a 3/4 ton PU to haul my equipment around, including scaffold, mixer and grout pump. (and much more). I wish there was a hybrid 3/4 ton. But,for now, I have to have this truck.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. OMG. you suck big time.
:sarcasm:
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:24 PM
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12. Door Brick wall...
Door you go through

Brick wall you can't no matter how hard you try.

SO STOP TRYING!
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:28 PM
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15. So BUY me one Baby!
I drive a 1993 Ford Tempo. I'm in need of a new car. :hi:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:47 PM
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56. Those things run forever, it's all the little things
that fall apart. My mother had one, I replaced 5 electric window motors, door latches broke, heater vent controls broke, automatic seat belt retractors broke, don't know how many times front CV joints were replaced etc. My mother became to old to drive now my brother drives it, it's a 1989 and has probably 200,000 miles, not sure odometer broke too, the thing still runs great though.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #56
72. Yes, I'm very thankful that I have mine
It ain't purty, but it gets me where I need to go. :hi: Plus I haven't made a car payment in several years!
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:31 PM
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16. If You Drive ANYTHING, You Suck
If you o*n a car, you suck.

*alk (It's Good for you)

Take Public Transportation (Get to know your neighbors!)

Carpool if you absolutely must (Don't forget to leave the perfume and cologne behind *hen you do!)

And if you MUST suck, be sure that the stra* is big enough.

Note: In protest of the continued occupation of OUR *hite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter bet*een "V" and "X", and I urge you to do the same.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:38 PM
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22. Uh oh
I pedal a Sch*inn, *hich doesn't make your list of non-sucky activities. 'Sokay, though; I *as feeling kind of smug any*ay.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:50 PM
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26. Do You *ear A Helmet?
Riding a Sch*inn is definitely NOT sucky (At least I FEEL it is not sucky.....I don't know if Sch*inn *orkers are unionized or not, and I have no idea *hether Sch*inn provides its employees *ith free day care and a good medical/dental plan or not.)

But, do you *ear a helmet *hen you are out riding you bike?

Do you do all you can to slow those gas-consuming cars do*n, so that they must drive at the same speed you do?

Do you *ear Spandex?

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR *hite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter bet*een "V" and "X", and I thank you for doing the same.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:12 PM
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32. Al*ays, *ithout fail
I go an extra four or five miles on my commute to *ork so that I'm not on the road *ith motor vehicles except for about 20 blocks. The la* in my state says that bicycles are entitled to the full traffic lane, just like motor vehicles, but I avail myself of that only do*nto*n *here everyone goes 20 mph or less.

Spandex? Only on the STP or training rides. Just doing my part to keep America beautiful that *ay.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:33 PM
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17. I use animal products, own more than one gasoline engine, and use pesticide to kill roaches
I suck so bad there's no hope for me. Evar.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. O.M.G.!
OMG!

*hen you go to the store, do you use paper or plastic?

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR *hite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter bet*een "V" and "X", and I urge you to do the same.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #21
35. hanging my head in total suck shame - at the grocery, I use
bags made of recycled old jeans sewed with store bought thread - that's right, fabric woven by slave labor probably from China and likely assembled in guatamalan sweat shops.

I suck beyond all hope.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. And I Just Bet You Do Your O*n Bagging!
And I just bet you do you o*n bagging!

Come to think of it, just *hy do you go to the grocery?

Don't you realize that there are people *HO MAKE THEIR LIVING delivering groceries!!???

YOU are putting THEM out of *ork!

I hope you use a very BIG STRA*.

Note: In my continuing protest of the continuing occupation of OUR *hite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I STILL REFUSE to use the letter bet*een "V" and X", and YOU SUCK if you don't do it, too!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:35 PM
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18. If you breathe, you suck. Damn CO2 producers.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:36 PM
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19. Non sucky person here...
I wiggle my nose and say a spell


I used to cross my arms, nod, and blink, but it used too much energy

:7
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Number_Six Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:37 PM
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20. What part of....
...."I can't fucking afford a new car!" don't you get, troll?

Toodles. Go away.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #20
27. Did you READ the OP?
I believe it was meant to be sarcastic...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #27
41. Now, now.... Don't go stealing the thunder from another DUer's poutrage.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. I just hate it when DUers exhibit the same reading comprehension as Freepers.
...especially when they get outraged and abusive over a sarcastic post.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. I'm with ya, of course. I always said that sarcasm tags are for idiots.
:)
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rangersmith82 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:15 PM
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33. I have a Toyota 4x4
And I have been driving it for 15 yrs

It was built in the US and when it dies I will replace it with another Toyota.

Its a 4 cylinder and even when gas was high it didn't affect my finances

I will never own a ugly little hybrid car, even if gas is 10 dollars a gallon.

Then again I would never own a Hummer2.





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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:16 PM
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34. i am, therefore i suck...
nt
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:37 PM
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36. I'm gay and I smoke. I'm like Double-Sucky.
:)

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SlicerDicer- Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:03 PM
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42. I drive my big 4.2 liter VeeeAtes!
They are Ze German! I get 30-32mpg city :) Good luck with that in american car.

VeeAte is Audi A8 :)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. LOVE that car!!!!!!
I have an '01 S8. Audi makes some amazing automobiles.
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SlicerDicer- Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. buy a vag com cable (aftermarket if needed) they rock!
I love having vag-com
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:12 PM
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46. And if you've ever bought anything from one of those damn foreigners, you suck too.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:19 PM
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49. FUCKIN FURRINERS!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:18 PM
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48. I walk, so everyone can kiss my ass!
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:32 PM
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52. Are your shoes made in China?
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:01 AM
Response to Reply #52
71. The guy is obviously a freeper.
if he was a REAL progressive he'd walk stark nekkid and barefoot rather than spend a thin dime on goods made with mistreated cheap labor.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:29 PM
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51. No hybrid meets my needs
So I'm stuck with a 10 mpg PU truck
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 07:44 PM
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55. Not only that, but your favorite band sucks.
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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:09 PM
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57. I drive a coal burning train produced in China that's been modified to drive in roads
Sometimes I drive it through the forest demolishing everything in my path and squashing all the animals that dare stand before me!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:16 PM
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58. I drive an '05 Dodge Neon
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 08:17 PM by JNelson6563
I get wicked good mileage and just plowed through pretty deep-ass snow a couple hours ago. I buy American and have yet to have cause for regret.

:toast:

Julie--Motorcity girl, born and bred
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:20 PM
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59. Well then its official, I "suck". Glad to know I'm doing my part to help others feel better
about themselves... :)

Peace,
MZr7
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:42 PM
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61. Rucky, you just think you can throw this shit out and not participate?
What, no balls to take the heat? YOU suck.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. I do suck, but not for that reason.
I was making Buckeyes with non-organic peanut butter.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:56 PM
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63. Well thanks for playing, by the way do you drive?
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 09:04 PM by DainBramaged
Too bad you can't promote your website here, great stuff BTW. :hi:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:33 AM
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65. I drive nothing.
I get a ride to and from work. The rest of the time it's the bus, the bike, or the boots.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:06 AM
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67. Translation: if you're poor, you suck.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:50 AM
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69. Not if you're too poor to afford a car
:toast:
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:55 AM
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70. I really suck
2001 Nissan Xterra. But I don't anybody on DU that would ride a bike in my neck of the woods today. Wind chill has pushed it below zero, and I've got snow and ice. I'm rural, but only 7 miles from town.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:20 AM
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76. The Ford Hybrid system is every bit as good as Toyota's. nt
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